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I would agree with Igab, pimping is far more prevalent than most people think. The more high profile providers are sometimes independent but in my experience there are many who have a "man" in their lives that direct the business. It's naive to believe that it doesn't. In my 25 years, I've come to learn that pimps don't always wear fur coats or look like gangsters. I've seen husbands who are straight up pimps and boyfriends who offer no contribution to running the business but bleed the woman dry. Many providers have "handlers" that don't resort to pimp tactics but are still leeches. I've also met many providers who are not cut out for running a business but are great escorts. I am one of those and from experience I would recommend an agency to learn the basics and see if going Indie is something she's even interested in. If there was an agency in town that worked me, I still be there... cat

I don't wish to be anyone else or different but I do wish I had the ability to stop suffering, cruelty, cause human beings to always be kind and thoughtful, stop war, greed, and make escorting an accepted profession !

I totally forgot about Thanksgiving with everything I have to do. Shit, now I'm going to be chained to the stove all weekend.lol. Not in the mood to cook but I am the only with enough space to accomodate people and seems like it's always expected of me. Bye bye relaxing weekend...:(

His estimation is based on his experiences. I could very well say that I've been around for a number of years and that my estimate is 0% of ladies are pimped, which would be true for my own experiences but just as untrue as your friend's when speaking of the general population. It could also speak to the type of provider he seeks out, or the means by which he does so, or how he perceives a significant other's role/relationship.

I am quite certain that the thread was designed with the intent of having people identify destinations that one could by whatever definition call exotic. Greece, Venice, Angkor Wat, and many others would certainly be amazing, as would Egypt, the rainforests, and the loneliness found in the Artic. Not making fun at all here, but sometimes the phrase of "The grass is greener on the other side," may apply. I realize that many CERB members are from Ottawa, but as a person who only rarely gets to vist there, it is one of my favorite destinations. I have been there for the tulip festival, seen pomp on Parliament Hill, just wandered around downtown people watching and got a crick in my neck from looking up at tall buildings. There are plenty of places that cause one to yearn for a visit, but you have a pretty amazing, beautiful and fun city right there.

What makes you say "WTF?" For me? I say "WTF?" ...... When people walk around grocery stores wearing those giant blinking bluetooth ear sets and their on the phone and they bang into you and don't even say excuse me or apoligize... like seriously wft? They might as well have a douche bag taped to the side of their head

From time to time I get a call from a "private caller" telling me to go get a "real" job. Do you consider this to be a "real" job? My opinion is that this profession is just that a profession, deserving of as much respect as any other profession. We, the service providers, take much care in what we offer, earn respectable incomes, are respectable intelligent people who get good reviews. So how could it be looked at in any other way? Perhaps these "private callers" are just ball less ninnies who have much time to waste and no common sense?

I wish to never grow up. I wish to live in a house wall to wall, floor to ceiling of vinyl records. I wish i had been apart of the 50's. I wish i could write my name in the snow while peeing..... I wish Dorritos were breakfast, and chocolate was lunch and peanutbutter on hotdogs was okay everyday, and superkid ice cream was mandatory. I wish everyone was allergic to lying. I wish for many things. But im grateful for the 'as is' life too ;) They say if you have one foot in yesterday, and another foot in tomorrow, you are just pissing all over today. ;) Happiness is NOT a step away, or a wish away, its in what we have today. Roar!

Somewhere else I definitely want to go: Petra

As you can see, I have reviewed Monique after the first time I saw her, but I have gone on to see her many times since and every time I arrive excited and nervous and every time I have a wonderful time with one of the sexiest, most beautiful, and easiest to get along with ladies I have ever met. Time with her is like riding on a train that picks up speed and eventually arrives at the station, with no fuel left. I feel like I am back in my teenage days in Grade 10 or 11 and she is the prettiest girl in school, and I actually get to be with her..can you magine how far out my chest goes? Monique is very well reviewed, so no need to bog you down with acronyms...she is "safe GFE", and her skills are amazing, and include some toys that spice it up nicely. Anyway....the reason I am adding on is because I experienced a duo (my first)with her and Erica_here4u (my first ebony lady) today and it was just intoxicating to have this swirl of chocalte and vanillla in a chaotic rush of double everything (dfk,daty,cbj) with these 2 gorgeous and sexy bombshells. Several different positions by both, just the right amount of "girl on girl" to excite and a very vigorous RC finish put me past the point of no return, although I never wanted it to end. It'll be on my mind for some time....

Of course there are "pimps" out there. Many shapes and forms of which, as cat has suggested, do not fit the stereotype created by the media. Let's not be naive. Then again, to suggest that the majority of "ladies of the night" are subjected to this type of control is also quite stereotypical. From the type of threads and comments on Cerb, I see, for the most part, confident, self aware, independent women who have chosen a career path that suits their personality and goals. I do not see the desperation that may come from being coerced by another. Perhaps I am naive but I see the whole pimp issue declining as the availability of the Internet is increasing. Don't get me wrong, there are definitely women who find themselves being controlled for various reasons but to assume that most are is ignorant.

A client deciding when he got here, he'd like me to join him and the lady who's working at my place today for a duo. Ummm, I need more than 30 seconds to get ready.

I wish I could be a dog (for a day). To experience smells 10,000x stronger than my puny human nose. To crap in the middle of the road & everyone will understand. To pee anywhere I want. To run faster than 15km/hr. with my tongue hanging-out. To enjoy a belly rub without (necessarily) having to get a hard-on. To sleep anywhere & anytime I want. To hump anything I like without judgement.

I have always wanted to wander the Grand Bazaar in Istanbul then relax in the evening sipping wine or tea on a patio overlooking the Bosphorus. I too would put Angkor Wat on my list of places as well as Phnom Penh, so much history I think I'd just want to wander and soak it all in - both the good and the bad. I've also wanted to visit Prague for sometime now, nothing in particular I wanted to visit there but it has caught my eye and won't let go.

I was exploring videos for double-ended toys. Verrry hot!

This may sound silly but I wish I knew how to snap my fingers! Seriously... I can't! lol

A little about me... My name is Jessie Brown, i'm a french girl and I just moved to Ottawa about a month ago. I'm from a small town so everything is new to me here. I want to meet new people, have fun and enjoy my time here I Have a Stripper background and i have experience in erotic massage as well. I hope you will come see me to get to know me better. Thats why im going to keep a bit of mystery I will be working in a nice spa in Ottawa, you can contact me to know the location anytime. I'm a really classy girl, with a nice personnality, service will be A+ at all time, i garentee you that you are going to come back and back again The rendez-vous..... The shower is mendatory before our session, if u didnt take one at home right before u come to see me, i request your honnesty and take one when u arrive at the spa. Top notch hygiene = top notch service The donation have to be pay in advance if i dont know you The donation.... (in room fee and package for 30, 45 and 60min) Option at 60$ : Full time massage I keep my clothes on You will leave with a smile Option at 80$ : Full time massage Top less (underwear on) You will leave with a BIG smile Option at 100$ : Half session Massage (or more if u want) Full Nude session Body slide Back and front Booty shake (I'm a pro) Shower together Reverse Massage Private dance in pole room (request it when u book plz) Hot tub fun (request it when u book plz) GFE massage all inclusive (Ask me detail) I'm really open minded You will leave with a BIG BIG BIG smile And you will want to come back garentee The contact..... Here's how to contact me : By pm here on cerb By email at [email protected] By call at the spa (ask me detail) By text on my cell phone at 438-863-8730 Schedule.... Contact me for location please new schedule:october2d tuesday 3:30-11pm wednesday 3:30-11pm friday 10-11pm saturday 3:30-9pm sunday 10-9pm The Conclusion.... I hope you add a pleasure to read a little about me and about my service, If you have any question you can contact me Hope to meet you xoxox

I am 21 years old.. brand new to massage.. and waiting for you to be a part of it.. Teasing fun, hot body slides and more;p Schedule- TODAY: 3:30-9 Rates- Single Massage 30mins: $55 45mins: $65 60mins: $80 Hot Tub Sessions 30mins: $70 45mins: $85 60mins: $100 Duo Massage rates also available upon request Location- Clean, cozy, disreet westend location Contact- To book an appointment please send me a PM. Jadexo

I wish I was musical. I wish I could carry a tune and play an instrument or two. I am always amazed when someone who has musical talent wastes it by not using it. It is as if they do not realize the value of their own talent.

Having to cancel an 8:30 pm call last night due to the power being out in my area for from 6:30 until 9:30 pm. Grrrrr....

I, like many seasoned SPs I know have have mentored more than few ladies in our day. For myself, I can think of maybe only 3 (two from ground zero, and one other who came out retirement after a few years when the industry had changed) who were truly appreciative of my efforts and showed their gratitude in different ways and are now paying it forward themselves. Today I am more inclined to refer newbies who ask me, to resources for tips/safety measures etc. This may sound harsh, but it makes no sense for me to help someone else make money when most of us are just getting by in the present economy. (I don't know of any other industry where one would expect a professional to do that for free). As for the OPs friend, I for one, would not be interested in mentoring a girl who has already started off on the wrong foot. The fact that she is hustling in bars, disturbs me. There is enough knowledge on the internet for her to know better. If she truly is that naive, then she really needs to get on with a reputable agency. And she needs to be agreeable to following their protocol. I really do hope the OP encourages her in that direction instead of trying to get ladies on cerb to take that on. Opening a cerb account is not going to do anything for her if she has no idea what she is doing. She could in fact make things worse for herself.

Phillipeans is my first first destination then perhaps I will find my way to Bora bora someday..

I met this young lady recently at the last Ottawa social and can assure everyone that these pictures do not do this lady justice. Not just that, but Mya is a real sweetheart too!

Sometimes you just need to have a lil fun!! That's my middle name so come see me today to paradise touch my button times! I always find your button! xo :icon_wink: Bio Petite, 22 year old, blonde atheltic babe!! Dazzling blue eyes! Natural D!!! Sassie, playful, and wanting to please! Services sensual relaxation massage body slides Pearl necklaces steamy showers for 2 Duo massages(2 girls, 4 hands) Head-to-toe fun... hot tub session You'll be sure to have a blast :icon_wink: Schedule TODAY: 3:30pm-9pm Tues: 9am-9pm Wed: 9am-11pm Thurs: 9am-11pm Fri: 9am-11pm Sat: 9am-9pm Sun: 10am-2pm Rates Single Massage 30mins: $55 45mins: $65 60mins: $80 Hot Tub Sessions 30mins: $70 45mins: $85 60mins: $100 Duo Massage rates also available upon Location Discreet, Very clean, Friendly west end location Contact To book an appointment please send me a PM or you may contact my personal phone TEXT ONLY 613-854-8525

Your like a rubiks cube, the more i play with you the harder you get!! Click this bar to view the full image. About me- Sexy petite 20 year old with long red hair, sparkling green eyes! Out going, bubbly and ready to rock your world!! Providing- Flirty and dirty relaxation massage :wink: Soapy sexy showers Reverse massages Body slides Duo massages(4 hands, 2girls) Hotub sessions & you'll leave happy :wink: Schedule- TODAY: 9-7 Rates- Single Massage 30mins: $55 45mins: $65 60mins: $80 Hot Tub Sessions 30mins: $70 45mins: $85 60mins: $100 Duo Massage rates also available upon request Location- Clean, cozy, disreet westend location Contact- To book an appointment please send me a PM.

Hello Jenna Here... I am 24 5'9 125 lbs long dark hair, busty and all yours.... Let me give you what you want and deserve.....I will treat you like the king that you are! I love to touch and be touched... Im very open minded and always up for new things. Our time is NEVER Rushed Let me give you the most EROTIC massge that will keep you wanting more...The Ultimate GFE Experience Couples Welcome/ Shower/ Hot Tub/ Duo's Call the Spa to book and appointment or pm me Ottawa West xoxox Jenna Available: Tuesday October 2nd - 330- 9pm Paradise Thursday October 4th- 330 -11pm Paradise

It's funny how people always think of our work as the time we spend with our customers. That's the one part of it that, to me, doesn't seem so much like work. But there's a lot more that customers don't think of to this job. Everything from writing ad copy and designing our web sites, to making travel arrangements, to getting audited, to laundering the linens. I guess I'm pretty good at avoiding seeing people I wouldn't like spending time with, but one part of the job that I really don't enjoy (but have learned the hard way that I really must do myself) is answering phones and emails. That's where I'm most likely to encounter people I don't like. This is a business, and every independent is running a business.

14 more sleeps gents..... come experience a taste of Paradise with the one and only Miss Sophia V :smile: Don't miss this gem while she is here http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=106940 Tuesday Summer 9-4 Hannah 9-7:30 NEW aka "Hannahxo" Cassie 9-9 NEW MA-Model Crystal 9-4 aka "Crystal" Jade 3:30-9 NEW aka "Jadexo" Jenna 3:30-9 NEW aka "Jenna69" Come for a 4 hand massage in our getaway room....an experience you will never forget Ottawa's Best Room! ------HST included in ALL PRICES------ Regular Room spacious and in room shower Single Massage: --------30 minutes $55. --------45 minutes on special for $65. --------60 minutes $80. Duo Massage: --------30 minute on special for $80. --------45 minute on special for $100. --------60 minute on special for $130. Getaway Room Fee: Room Features a hot tub,6 ft custom shower and fireplace for your enjoyment Single Massage: --------30 minutes $70. --------45 minutes $85. --------60 minutes $100. Duo Massage/Couples Massage: --------2 Attendant --------30 minute $100. --------45 minute $120. --------60 minute $150. Couples Massage: Cerb Rate ONLY must be booked through PM ------1 Attendant --------30 minute $80. --------45 minute $95. --------60 minute $115. ------HST included-------- Pics of our ladies http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/album.php?u=22187 Pics of the Spa (Virtual Tour) http://homesite.obeo.com/viewer/defa...=&locale=en-US Crystal & Cassie Recommendation http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=82862 Summers Recommendations http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?ltr=S&t=45598

What constitutes a real job? There should be no 'constituting'. A job done for services rendered equals money. End of story. And for those who don't think this is a real job, I swear I wish there was some kind of reality show for behind the scenes of our jobs and how we do it. I would be the star of that show! Some of the shit I have and still have to put up with, many of you would be amazed. Like running around for a pair of white thigh highs for a clothing request and you can't find them anywhere and when you do, the store doesn't accept credit cards!! And you have to be at incall location in under 15 mins before client shows up. And some of the things that are funny that clients never see. Like one time where I worked with another SP and she literally rushed in the condo coming from University with her regular streetclothes on. She saw her regular walking towards the building and somehow she got in the elevator before him. She made a mad dash to get changed but she had these knee high boots on and also had to get her tight jeans off. She was holding onto the door knob and I had her two legs like a wheel barrel in order to pull the boots and jeans off and the guy was already buzzed up.lol. I don't know how her and I did it but frantically, I threw a little outfit at her, she jumped in it and away she went. Meanwhile I was stuck in the other room for an hour. Clients never see things like that because once at the door, the pros have a smile on their face like they've just been waiting all day for you. Yeah right....lol. I don't sit around an incall location all day that isn't mine. Try booking an appt when you're working at home for another business and most clients of mine want right now or 20 mins later... So I know that if I want to make money that day the following is what's going to happen... Shower 3 mins....that is if you have waxed your legs and lady parts in advance and first client of the day before you even have a real chance to get ready because the positive part of it is clients are blowing up your phone at 9 am wanting to see you. Throw on lingerie ( sometimes incredibly difficult outfits where you have hooks to attach the stockings to and they never want to hook in properly), trow on sweat pants, t-shirt or little dress with no bra. Run for the door... hair is still wet by the way and not combed... no makeup... the makeup happens while you are driving and at all red lights. Including brushing of the hair. It takes 10 mins to get there so you are going a fast pace down the road passing cars and cutting them off including everyone and their mother while trying to put a fake eyelash on as part of a customer request. You park, run to incall location because you don`t want customer pulling up only to see you outside looking like you just swam the English Channel in track pants because the hair is still soaking wet. And worse in winter when you get isicles in it. You swing the front door open in a mad dash, your friend throws you mouthwash. You ask her if the bed is made like she was your maid. You race to take off the dowdy sweat pants, and now here is where the transformation begins... Check makeup.... blowdry hair a little just so you don't look like a drowned rat.... Don`t forget that I have long blonde hair that will one day be almost down to my ass so this is a big time consumer every frikken day! Next, check to see if you actually look good. You look for heels.. nowhere in sight. You yell at your friend to get the shoes.. by this time she appears to be my personal assistant or a gopher for a diva queen celebrity for the way I yell at her to get me my stuff...she throws them up from downstairs hallway and ends up hitting me in the head. BTW, the client already has the address and is about to walk up to the door. At this point, all of this has happened in less than 5 mins and the doorbell rings. . you race for the stairs and then bam. You trip and fall in 6 inch heels. You get up and dust yourself off and open the door with a smile like nothing ever happened and secretly praying to Jesus that your ankle won't be broken...And the appt hasn't even begun yet. True story.. The above is a day in the life of me when I'm working and not just this job since having another home business on the side. And try doing this a couple of times a day back and forth and (may not get paid in case they decide to stand you up with no notice beforehand) in the middle of it dealing with bullshit with other things in your life with running a household, family, other businesses. Everyone deals with bullshit on the job..just different versions of it. If what I go through above in the process of scheduling an appt doesn't coincide with what is considered a real job, I will tell people to blow it our their dittybag because I work hard! However I still enjoy what I do minus doofus' and morons as the good clients overrule them. I also get to the call the shots, how I run my business, I find ways to minimize bullshit and have gained quite a bit of experience ( and not just laying on my back) to deal with different customers, their personalities and their quirks. Sometimes, as in any customer service job, I swear I could blow a lid with the way a few in the minority present themselves to me. Instead, I shift gears to turn a situation around since I have become so accustomed to dealing with irrate people and situations on other jobs. . And then you just bitch to any other SP friend that will listen. lol. This job is often a walk in the park when it comes to dealing with people. I find that I am multifaceted and can adjust to any type of personality that comes my way. And then there is the business aspect of it... marketing. So far, I think I can give myself a pat on the back because I do go beyond customer expectations by treating the customer than just better. I go the extra mile for them. You learn a lot of things on this `` job`` and have no problem with it. I'm comfortable with the job, my sexuality and most importantly... me!

I love scrabble. Trivial Pursuit is also a favourite.

Stopped into 340 Monday (10/1) afternoon and found Barb's a bit quiet, but as I've never been in on a Monday before it strikes me that it might have been typical for that day of the week. There were a few unfamiliar dancers but, as usual, a number I recognized. Jade looked just great on (and off) stage, Ariel was as striking as ever and Jenny captivated the (rather small) crowd in a very tiny and very flattering black bikini during her first turn on stage. Felt I was taking a bit of a chance hoping for a J. sighting on a Monday but, as luck would have it, my gamble was rewarded.

I feel so stupid I gave him rep points :(. I realized it was a 1st time poster and a September membership but I guess my usual assumption of innocence until proven guilty didn't work this time :(. I even made a hotel reservation for coming Saturday wanting to see Candy and Nicky both that day. Yeah if they resort to shill that means there is something fundamentally wrong with their agency or their girls or both. Thank you mod for policing the board and the info (and extended thanks to the member who flagged it too).

It seems to be a common trend in my experience, for some of the women staff at strip clubs to be the prettiest girls in the club regardless of how many dancers are on. It was the same at Zanzibar and Brass Rail in Toronto too. I dare say a uber hot waitress makes as much or more $ as some of the top dancers. I can't say what it's like around here, as the only SC I've ever been to here was The Pink - which did have a bar tender and waitress hotter than the dancers, but that was years ago. Montreal I can't remember other than the private duo. The rest is a blurrrrr haha. Is Pigale's considered the best SC in the National Capital? I just may have to check them oot :-)

Wow!!! Just wanted to say thanks again to everyone for their posts and sentiments. Really it is appreciated Seems just like yesterday I took the first step and embarked on this wonderful, and mutually respectful lifestyle. When I made that decision, little did I know what a positive impact this lifestyle would have on my life, nor how I would look forward to reading (and the odd posting ;-) ) on CERB almost daily I am happy this community exists, and provides an escape, and that I am a part of it. A hats off to Mod and Town Council for keeping this community the positive and safe place it is. Certainly can't be easy and it must be thankless, so to Mod and Town Council, a thank you Finally, I am happy for all the virtual friends I have made through CERB, and the live friends I have made through encounters where my first contact was through CERB. You have all enriched my life Again, a heartfelt thank you RG

Wherever did you get the impression that it's supposed to be all about the client? You can still provide top notch service to your client while still enjoying yourself. In fact you will find many men who love to please their partner and it turns them on when you are turned on. You have absolutely NOTHING to feel bad about.

Spacey, Kevin

Ireland, Jill RG

BodyCare is across the street from Billings MyaRain is two blocks away VIP is at Bank and AtaVista Annessa's incall is nearby ALO's Bank Street location is also at Bank and AltaVista LusciousLilly Merivale and Baseline ClaireHeavens Fisher and Baseline All of these are within a 5 minute drive from Billings

When during the summer, and you are driving with the windows down, the driver in front all of a sudden spits out of his car's window, or sticking out his hand to empty something or tapping the ash off his lighted cigarette -WTF! :mad:

People that litter, lazy mfers!!!!! I hate them, on a drive home the other day I encoutered 4- 20 something assholes in a car laughing as they threw food from their car all the way down the street. I mean wtf, it's garbage, you wonder what their homes are like. Another-people that pick up their dogs poo then toss the bag to the side of the road, WTF!

I think what you need to do is convince her to come onto CERB and work things out for herself. Whatever her writing skills, she needs to be asking these questions on her own behalf. Given that you are a hobbyist I don't think you'll have a lot of SPs willing to give you the inside scoop on how we run our businesses or how we protect ourselves. Encourage her to get in contact with other Escorts herself. I think that's the best you can do if you're concerned about her.

For outcalls I always dress professional complete with briefcase. I have sometimes been asked to leave said clothing on for a while after I reach my destination as it is usually a surprise that I arrive in that attire. Imo it is one less risk, than walking into an establishment dressed for sex.

I neatly place my garbage can and recycle bins at the end of the lane way. A few hours later, I look out the front window and say WTF to myself as my bins are either tossed into the middle of the lane way, (sorry told I should call it a driveway) on my lawn or in the street. Jesus, Joseph and Mary, how hard is it to put it back down where it came from? Doesn't take anymore time than tossing it. I have watched them do it...I guess that is what they do to make their job more interesting.?

Speaking of grocery stores, why do people right at the end of an aisle take their carts, decide to start gabbing and socializing with another person, and block off the aisle? Do those people drive the same way And going through a check-out, why does a person decide to gab and socialize with a cashier, when there is a line up of people waiting to go through, and why does the cashier allow this. And at drive throughs, usually Tim Hortons, why don't people pull right up behind the car ahead of them. I've seen line ups going right off the property, onto a street, blocking traffic, and if every one pulled up right behind the car ahead of them, this wouldn't happen...keeping two or three car lengths distance in a drive through isn't safe, it's a hazard. RG

What backrubman said, in particular this quote: There will always be the haters and the narrow-minded, fed by the media's biased, way-off portrayal of the industry, who have nothing better to do but to put the ladies down. Don't let it get to you! FR

Ok, this must be the most famous song about a Lady engaged in the provision of "services" to men. From the Opera Carmen. Its never actually clear in the opera if she is a prostitute. In fact she offers herself for free apparently. She appears to take on the role more of as a mistress than a prostitute and relationships last up, but no more, then 6 months according to Escamillo. But I did find this analysis of the story. "Carmen makes connotations throughout the opera stating that she's not really interested in getting paid for sex; although Carmen is a prostitute, this is her ongoing theme throughout the opera. She's interested in making love, only for its sexual sake, and not for the sake of getting paid." From http://voices.yahoo.com/the-opera-carmen-womens-rights-2487398.html But you can never trust anything you read on the internet. Anyway, she is very choosy about who her next lover will be... She only takes on clients she likes. But makes a bad choice with Don Jose, a french soldier, because the silly man screws up his profession by letting her escape from jail and falls in love with her. Worse still, he doesn't want to share her with the other men that admire her like the Toreador Escamilio. In this scene Escamilo offers to pay for her, but Don Jose says the price is a dagger so they fight for her.

I failed spelling a long long time ago ..... Looks like you all understood the message any way. seems once I almost lost my shirt Loki318