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It is one thing to have a bad date or be out of pocket financially .... It is another thing to be in a dangerous encounter. Team play amongst the ladies is huge in my opinion .... for safety. If you don't ask for references for your own business...that is your business. I do urge you to share with other ladies and not look at it as doing all the work for others... Us fella's share info via recco's, posts, threads and some with PM's. Worst case scenario is a bad experience or being ripped off. You ladies share information for the same reason.....but also for safety. Everytime I read threads like this I think of my cousin who perhaps maybe...just maybe would still be with us and enjoying life if she would have had the benefit of team play as it is now ....

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She's back now (saw her last Saturday) and working in the late evenings.

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I've got some good regular clients actually by simply replying to what anyone might consider rude or haggling by being firm and straightforward with them. I put hours not just in my ad, but right next to the phone #. You can't not see it. And yet, when the ad gets auto reposted at 12:30am, I do get phone calls at 1 and 2 am. I don't answer them, of course. If someone is calling without reading the hours, I know they are calling without reading my age and stats, and that is the real waste of my time. I also put my stats, age, etc, right under the phone #. These two things help filter out a few callers. It will never filter out all of them, but those guys will find ads anywhere and do the same thing. One site isn't the source of all the bad clients, just as one site isn't the source of all the bad sps. When I started I had a one line newspaper ad, and of course you get a lot of phone calls that don't lead to anything because the caller doesn't have enough info in those ads. You get 50 phone calls in a day, and maybe maybe 5 of them come by. But probably only one or two of those 5 come by a 2nd or 3rd time. Is that a waste of time? Answering 50 phone calls to get 5 appts and 2 regs? I don't think so, and I don't think many people running a business would think that either. If anyone expects that each and every call or enquiry is supposed to lead to an appt, I have a newsflash for them lol.

As long as I have boobies I'm good. But oral...both giving and receiving.

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Why not just post here 1st, if you are skeptical of getting weirdos on bp, pretty sure most members here are "normal".

I'm a little old school and don't require references but I gladly give them for guests if a lady requests it. If an SP choses to have a reference option, that is her decision alone; I respect that and cooperate fully. I agree with Emily, safety is paramount. References are an excellent tool, especially for travelling SPs who attract the less desirable hobbyists who have worn out their welcome with local SPs. I don't ask for them as I don't travel much and I prefer to trust my intuition and hands on homework when I book a new guest for an introduction. To each their own, I've enjoyed reading this thread. Posts always offer so much insight into people... cat

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I hope you don't mind my asking but... I'm curious about this. I had always got the impression that most (if not all) SPs - or at least, the ones on CERB, who are the only ones I know much about - were fine with giving references, even if they didn't ask for references themselves. But you're the first person I can recall who's come out as saying that she wouldn't provide a reference if asked... and I'm afraid that makes you rare and exotic and deserving of further investigation :) What I don't get (possibly because I'm on the other side of the fence here) is why you characterize references as a wholly negative thing. I'm making an assumption here that you do your own screening and that you would prefer to avoid the time-wasters and those who may jeopardize your safety... but given this, isn't the collective experience of the SP community better than what any individual could hope to achieve alone? Yes, giving someone else a reference helps her to save time on screening, at a cost of perhaps a couple of minutes to you... but the flip-side of that is that being able to ask someone else for a reference similarly allows you to save the time you'd otherwise spend on screening. What I'm really asking here is: does opting out of the give-and-take of references completely actually save you time, in the long run? Sure, it's not always going to be perfectly even - I've heard SPs grouch about the fact that they're giving more references to another SP than they get in return. I'm just curious as to why you seem to be so thoroughly down on the whole thing. Is it really a zero-sum game?

I put foreplay and intercourse. By my definition, foreplay includes giving and receiving oral sex... ;) In all honesty though, making out with/without clothes on (foreplay) is enough to get me hot and bothered for sex!

Withpassion, in order to be in business, most, if not all ladies have some kind of public information somewhere available for clients/potential clients to contact them through whether it'd be via our website, email address, a phone number or even via PM on Cerb therefore providing another lady with that information is not an invasion of privacy. The point of asking for a refence is actually to check it ;) If not, what's the point of asking for one in the first place? I also do not think I am over the top when I contact a lady for a reference. I just think I am doing my due diligence in a pro-active manner. All I ask is- have you seen gentleman xxx and would you see him again if he contacted you for another get together. From there, I can assess the situation and accept or decline the request (also based on other factors). I'm sorry you feel like we are "over the top" if we actually go through with our screening process. To each their own, I guess. Not every SP requires references; it is a personal choice, one that has to be respected by all. A gentleman without a reference can easily see a lady who doesn't require references at first or contact the lady of his choice and explain his situation. You would be surprised how most of us will work with him and offer him other options. Asking for a reference is not about making a statement. It's about insuring our safety first and foremost. Maybe it's all non sense to you, from a client perspective, but as a companion, I see it under a very different light; I chose how I want to screen my new potential clients in a way that makes me feel most comfortable and I see it as time well invested and not as a waste of time. If a gentleman is not willing to provide me with a reference (even though he has some) then he has many other options to chose from... Not just in the process but in companionship too.

Because in life there are more important things than money... In this lifestyle, safety is always priority number one for most of us. Jumping through hoops? lol How difficult can it be to say "I saw xxx a while ago. Here is her contact information"? Sounds pretty easy to me.

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I think this is a dilemma for most of us. If you have a bad experience, you don't want to let others have the same experience. I've only done this once because I felt cheated, that time I just commented that I have seen the lady in question and that you could PM if you wanted further information. This is and should be a positive board, but I don't think a provider can give bad service knowing that no one can comment.

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From my experience, nothing better to make you comfortable with your own skin then seeing an SP, specialy if you've never had sex before. The session might be akward ( not the ladie's fault) but next time you'll feel confident. Not a big price to pay compared to the other options. =p

That's most unfortunate Angela but that goes more to the morals of the gentleman which no lady can really attest to. By providing a reference she can only tell you that the client treated her well enough that she would book with him again, obviously she can't tell you if his moral standards are such he would make good on a promise to make it up to you if he has to cancel at the last minute. That's why I used to prefer to provide the lady an advance deposit and then when I became more trusting full payment in advance so I don't have to deal with cash at all. Eventually I realized that with someone of your obvious stature and good reputation, why bother with a partial payment at all when if you were the one that had to cancel I am certain you would provide a refund. So these days I just send the full amount in advance (if the lady agrees) and then that is one less thing I have to worry about. My opinion that ladies who require references is a positive is an opinion, but a client's possible future need for a reference is a fact. If I know you will never provide a reference for me (particularly to a lady in another city I might not travel to as often) then one of the normally expected services is that for a certain period of time a lady you recently saw will take a few minutes of her day to provide a reference because I might be seeing a lady that requires one and therefore need one, in fact many ladies ask for two references. Much less important to me today then it was when I was new to CERB and I had no post history or reputation it was of great importance to me. I don't get asked for references very often anymore so it is obvious some ladies do review your history here, that and the fact that I much prefer to see a lady I've already seen before whenever possible.

As much as I hate to admit it, -------- is how I met the majority of great guys I've entertained, many of them multiple times. As was suggested I never book anyone without quickly speaking with them. This has helped cut out the WOT and non serious inquires to which there are plenty. I also think there is alot to be said about guys who text for address as their first contact. I'm not sure why anyone would think this would be an acceptable introduction, regardless of them being cautious to areas of city, it will never come first to my safety and discretion. Generally I find the early a.m to dinner time inquires to be the most uncomplicated, many will attempt to book extremely short notice (which frazzles me, personally) but there is a large "man with a plan" group who will book with notice and follow the basics that you ask them too such as call from car when you arrive etc. I always took preference to those who would text a short introduction about themselves, along with when i felt would be the best time to call. I always thought this was sweet and very respectful. If you can handle and weed through the b.s there are many gentlemen hidden within the nonsense enquires and rude downright weird risky morons. The positive side of -------- is these guys are very transparent, so you will quickly discover if they are not worth seeing. The downside is that some hobbyists will test you with rude inquires for bb services as this is how they minimize their risk on a personal level. Which I sorta can appreciate given the increase in sp's offering these life threatning options. I actually had an ad flagged and removed within 5 mins for simply posting "if you are seeking services = russian roulette I AM NOT YOUR GIRL!" Apparently this isnt aloud to be posted, but no restrictions, and down for anything, anywhere, anytime is?! Advertising here is also helpful, as is maintaining a profile to help the guys get to know you better. (and you can post longer ad, as bp has very small letter limit!" Also when I book encounters, I ask them to call to confirm the encounter an hour or two before the time booked. This helps me to confirm they are still serious at which time I then provide my location. that way it is far less likely to have given my address only to have them cancel. When booking in evenings to late night I often have them drive to a location or intersection close to my incall and then have them call from where I asked them to be, and then provide my address. This has cut out no shows almost entirely as of recent. If you get bad vibe, trust your instincts! I also think it is very helpful to get any questions they may have, this simple question often offers surprising answers that would have otherwise been asked once you are at your encounter together. Such as "if i only have 80, what can we do?" or "I assume your down for anything" and "so no restrictions?" " do you do greek" "can I bring my friend, can my friend use the rest of my hour after im done?" "can i just come by quickly and jerk off in the corner for free cuz im new in town and have a six pack" "how much for a 5 min bj?" "do you like black cock" can you take 13 inches?" in all holes?" "will their be anyone else at your place?" " can I bring drugs?" and so on and so forth. Asking them if they have any questions as you prefer to get all that out of the way so you can focus on having a fabulous encounter, has many, many times, saved me from otherwise inviting individuals to my location that would have wound up negotiating me once in my door, or compromising my safety or just plain creeped me out and been a regrettable awkward encounter. It also helps to save weird or WOT callers as such to remind you of them when and if they attempt further b.s. with you. Last but not least, if someone is asking alot of questions with services and your location do a search of the number on -------- to ensure you arent wasting your time responding to a lady who has nothing better to do than ruffle your feathers. This isn't unheard of as many of the ladies on -------- have no sense to focus on improving themselves instead causing issues for providers they feel may be a threat to them. You may want to look into escorts canada's 2 week trial offer, as EC is far more reputable to hobbyists, I only just did this myself today so don't have an opinion just yet. Welcome to cerb, and I hope all your encounters are respectful, enjoyable ones. Feel free to pm me should there be anything more you may want to enquire. I myself started out as an indie earlier this year, and found cerb to be full of answers to questions I had yet to consider asking myself. Props to all the members for all the threads I've read into the wee hours, many, many nights. I learned many, many inportant things from this site and all the great members that contribute here. xoxo

I had the immense pleasure of meeting Aubrey, and she scheduled me on short notice. She invited me to her new and very discreet location, and met me at the backdoor with an incredibly charming and warm personality. This woman was completely real, and accommodating....no stunts, no games...just a perfectly friendly and courteous companion. She greeting me warmly and guided me to her room, where she had her whirlpool bubble bath running, and invited me to soak in the tub...which I did so without hesitation. She delicately slipped off her clothes, and climbed into the tub with me. I have been with many SPs who just skip straight to the blow job, with the intention of finishing as soon as possible. Aubrey was completely different. She started by starting a friendly and warm conversation, as she caressed every part of me. She made sure that I got a good sense of her incredible body as she rubbed against me. As we started to kiss, she made her way towards my package and started to delicately rub it. With my dick in her hand, her tongue in my mouth, bubbles soaking our skin, and jet vibrating against our bodies, needless to say...I was in ecstasy. She continued to rub, until she pushed me down, and asked that I hold her hair, as she took me into her mouth. She gave an incredible blow job...taking her time to make sure I was enjoying the entire process. She looked so sexy bobbing her head up and down in the water as I held her long, beautiful hair. Her tongue moved all along my dick...it was heaven. She then motioned that we exit the tub, and move to the bedroom. We dried ourselves off, and I plunked down at the head of the bed. Aubrey jumped on the bed...took hold of my dick, and went to town. The woman gives wonderful head...did I mention that? After playing with my dick for a while, she whispered into my ear, in the most seductive manner: "Do you wanna eat pussy?" I don't normally do that for escorts, but Aubrey had me so locked in a sensual spell, that I couldn't resist. I flipped her over and proceeded to lick her beautiful pussy, which, might I add, was perfectly trimmed and very well groomed. Aubrey tasted delicious as I rubbed her clit and thrust my tongue into her pussy. She started to moan and arch her back...it was tremendously sexy. After a while, she motioned for me to fuck her. Grabbed a condom, and slapped in on my dick, and told me to fuck her. I wasn't about to disobey this heavenly goddess of sex, so you can guess what happened next. When all was said and done...we had a bit of time left on the clock, and Aubrey offered to give me a full body massage, which felt amazing. She has the most authentically caring sense that is very uncommon for most SPs to possess. I will definitely be making a return visit in the future. If you are looking for a top notch companion you should be calling her...right now! Thanks Aubrey.

I have been around long enough to have seen the many conflicts between Israel and its Arab neighbors. I tuned in regularly over the last week to observe the latest threats and each time shook my head with the futility of the military action from both sides. There surely must come a time when reality actually sinks in and for Israel to understand that a Palestinian state is a must and at the same time for the Palestinians to accept the existence of Israel as a neighboring state. Does that not sound simple? In the aftermath of the Arab spring and with new powers and leaders in the middle east perhaps a new initiative is in the works. One can only hope so. The ceasefire that is now in place is hopefully only the starting point. If there were a Christmas gift that I would ask for it would be for these two sides to sit and to talk and to negotiate in good faith in order to make that region a viable and peaceful area. Is it truly possible?

Wow that was hard. (hehe) Limiting to 2. My first choice came easy when I thought about - Foreplay. Mainly because I love touching and kissing and this is rarely left out of my sexual activities. So then only having one choice left I picked intercourse. Having said that I'm a huge fan of oral (both giving and receiving). Thankfully when with a partner I'm not restricted to 2.

No one can hold a candle to Shakira, I'll give em that!

Mutual giving/receiving oral :) (69!)

An interaction with the government that was handled quickly and efficiently, much to my surprise. This one almost went in the 'WTF' thread....

Those who know me well, can confirm...DATY and doggie (in that order, lol)

i chose receiving oral, i dont know what it is about it, but looking down at a woman giving you a bj or bbbj is a ridiculous turn on lol

I am one of those newbies. I did decide I would like to see one of the SPs who asks for references. At this time I was not able to provide one. As others have mentioned the easiest thing to do is to contact the lady. I contacted her and we communicated back and forth for a bit. I do have an upcoming appointment. At no time was I jumping through hoops and have been having fun exchanging emails with the lady in question. I can't say that my experience with the SP I have been in contact with would be the same as ever other, however I would have to say I would respect each SPs desire to make sure their safety is assured. The assurance is not my choice or any other clients to assume, it is when they feel their safety is assured. I can understand what you are saying with this. A bunch of times I make a decision the day I wish to see an SP and go from their. Going through a process to provide a reference does not always fit into this time frame. I do think you would have had a different response from people if you hadn't used the wording "kick her to the curb", and just stated you choose to find one who does not require references.

The Canadian Escort Recommendation Board made a huge difference in my life. When I started escorting I had no idea what I was doing and CERB provided me with a safe space to explore this new chapter of my life. I meandered my way through the various threads and met some amazing people who helped me along the way. I remember joining CERB and only taking my first appointment after 2-3 months, and then I only made my first website about 6 months after that! It's been a learning curve for me. I think CERB is a great marketing tool, especially for posting threats and having conversations with new patrons, or maintaining conversations with ongoing ones. I'm sad that I've had less time to post because of my studies, but happy when I can find a couple of moments (like now) to tell the community how much I love and appreciate them. I meet patrons all the time that change my life in some way. I think we are all shaped by our interactions and I always learn something new about life when I meet someone. It can be something small, or something much larger, it really depends on a multitude of factors. I think CERB provides me with a medium to meet a lot of really interesting people that I wouldn't have otherwise met, and we shape each other through the intimacy and joy we share. It feels rather indiscreet and private to discuss particular heart warming stories publicly, but I think it's easy to understand what I mean without substantiating it with examples. I think we all reach other to each other in special ways, and I'll probably remember a lot of these experiences for the rest of my life.

I guess these girls think we are really that dumb. Just change the name but still post the same pictures. Pathetic.

I will just say this, without getting into the snide remarks earlier. I understand your concern about references. When I had commenced my hobbying I basically got well known by providers that were kind enough to vouch for me to see some SP's that required reference checks, it was really painless for myself, and I was able to see those ladies. I completely understand the requirement of reference checks, and I have no issue continue to jump through those hoops for those beautiful women, that I desire and want to meet them. Like Gabriella, Genevieve, Victoria Jolie , Ashley Croft, Maria Divina,Gia Sweet,Nathalie Lefebvre and many others. But we all had to start some place, and if you're a good guy act like a gent, your name gets known to other ladies that the whole process is quite easy. Cheers folks, make love not war ;)

I think that the difficulty may come from the fact this type of clients may not have the best reputation inside the SP community. The lack of care and concern in this comment is definitely a warning flag for me. I think this gentleman just kicked himself out of the curb...

Oddly there is a loose relationship between the level of screening a lady requires and the quality of service she provides. I say "loose" because nothing is ever a completely hard and fast rule and there are always exceptions. Just the same I have seen enough ladies to recognize that there is a relationship between her attention to careful screening processes and her attention other aspects of the service she provides. When a lady pays that much attention to detail that she requires the opportunity to screen her clients very carefully, it is almost always the case (has always been the case in my experience) that she will also pay just as much attention to detail when it comes to making your appointment with her the very best that she can also. In short, if she is OCD about screening, she is probably OCD about the overall quality of her services.

kick her to the curb??? ridiculous hoops??? I'm sure statements like that raise warning flags with the ladies. Likely it's guys like you that are the reason ladies require verification and references. Ladies are deserving of respect, and I certainly do not see any respect for the ladies coming from you with that post. You could say you chose not to see ladies requiring references without bashing those ladies who do require them RG

Lol there are so many immature dancers like that ! If they were confident like me , they would let them try out other girls knowing that they would come back ;P or even better , bring one in for a duo =) Variety is always good ! Jealousy just makes a dancer ugly !

I really don't think it has ever been a religious thing. Just groups that happen to be from a certain background. The commander of the Munich massacre came from a Jewish Christian family, and a good number of Palestinians are Christian. I think it's been framed to be a Jewish Muslim conflict to simplify matters, as well as rile up support on either side. I don't see a resolution in the next 10 or 15 years. On one side (Israeli), the official demands are: To be recognized as a state To have all the settlements as the exist now and to allow for natural growth For Palestinians, it gets more complicated There are some that will only talk to Israel if the latter is willing to accept the 1967 borders, and in turn remove all settlements beyond the line Some want to go back to the 1948 borders at the creation of Israel And some will not accept Israel under any circumstance, and want things to go back prior to the 1940s when Israel does not exist. You have the Fatah and Hamas on the Palestinian side, and depending on your view, that means the two parties in power over their respective areas are moderate and extreme, or extreme and very extreme. You have governments in Israel going farther to the right since Rabin. And when an agreement was made, Rabin was assassinated by someone on the far right. Then as far as the youth go, which has been mentioned by some here, I believe are getting more entrenched in their parents' hatred of the other side. The Arab Spring consisted of Arabs being angry at one of their own. But many leaders invent up a fake enemy (sometimes a real one comes along), and it's citizens are united. The only division is how hated is the enemy. Arab youth, especially ones in Gaza know that the reason they can't leave is because of a blockade. They have grown up to believe it is Israel's fault, and they do not have access to the resources citizens in countries of the Arab Spring had. Israelis fear for their lives every time an alarm is sounded of indicating yet another rocket attack. And then there is Jerusalem. Once a wholly (as of the 20th century on-wards) Muslim controlled city, followed by the British, then in the Palestinian side, then after the 6 Day War, incorporated in Israel and proclaimed the capital, unloading a whole shit storm of new hate from the Palestine side. You have a limited number of countries who actually put their embassies there, while most remain in Tel Aviv. Go back beyond the 20th Century, and Jerusalem has gone from one control to another so many times, it becomes dizzying trying to recollect the order. The biggest problem? (In my humble opinion that is) It's not the borders. It's the pain and suffering on both sides. Imagine someone you absolutely love, a mother, father, significant other being killed by a drunk driver or murderer. Some are able to forgive that person, a lot don't. But the slightest bit of silver lining in that incredibly dark cloud is that you probably have other friends and family that can get you through this. Now imagine they are going through the exact same thing as you. Everyone you know feels the loss you are, and you know that in time, the only guarantee is that more are going to die. My bet goes to the Koreas uniting before there is peace here. (I'd like/hope to be wrong) And pictures, cause eyes Proposed partition plan, 1947 ------From a pro-Palestinian website------ 1946- They believe that the entire thing less some land is theirs UN Plan - second one from the left Israel wins the war at the formation of Israel, wins (legally or illegally) land from Arab opponents Picture on the right - More or less the state of things now

Today I took my dog for a walk in the golf course behind our hotel :) and I decided to let her off her leash for a good run (the course id closed for the season) Of course she ran straight to a HUGE flock of HUGE geese and chased them off. I couldn't help but laugh when they flew off squawking as she chased them through 3 holes. I know, I'm evil

This might sound a little on the corny side or the maudlin side but for me it is neither. Today I put a small Christmas tree up beside my wife's grave. I will put a few decorations on it tomorrow and the solar lights to begin on December 1st. She loved Christmas even more than I and last year when I thought about doing this it was an SP friend that told me to do it if that's what I wanted to do, so I did. It made me smile every single time I went by or went over to visit and I was smiling today. :)

The first question I have to ask which you have NOT cared to provide a specific answer to is WHY you are asking these questions? And why do you feel the need to know? Are you a journalist? Are you writing a book and need material? Or do you just have guilt issues with seeing SPs who are in relationships and/or those who have children? With the personal questions you are asking on an internet forum and SPs here not wanting to answer, why would she tell you point blank when asked in person? With the way you are acting right now, I would be scared too if I were the SP that you visit! And just to speculate here, if she felt open enough with you to tell you the truth about her life, she would have told you little details here and there. It's only natural when you feel comfortable in someone's company. Obviously there are reasons why she hasn't. She very may well see you as a threat. I've had one client in particular trying to do this as even went as so far to get my license plate but I really don't care. Equally important, I know enough pertinent details about him and I stopped seeing him because of certain tendancies like this. No escort likes secret agent/creep/stalker clients who feel that it's their mission to find out everything about them because they happen to take a liking to them. SPs definitely can get vibes from clients and feel them out. I have clients that I don't feel threatened by and they know a few things about my personal life. Others know nothing so what does that tell you? I am also not dating these men so this info is out of bounds if I don't care to share it. And this is where the line is drawn in the sand. I am under no obligation to disclose my personal details. And your job is very different than mine where you do the opportunity if you choose to be open with coworkers/clients about yourself. And why would an SP send you a PM with her personal private details instead of posting it here? And please don't send me a PM. Why would she even give you that info? It is posts like this that make a lot of SPs use cover stories and alot of reasons why we are viewed as being dishonest instead of being able to be ourselves. We do not post details about our private lives if we don't want to because it doesn't apply to the service we're offering. We're providing a fantasy and real life relationships and children basically ruin this fantasy. And we don't want to be put in an uncomfortable postion either. No one wants to hear how many kids you have when you're in the middle of something hot and heavy. The SPs that are professionals know NOT to do this. I really don't think you're going to get the answers you're looking for from SPs here or the SPs you see. And yes, your questions are inappropriate whether you'd like to believe it or not. This is one of the rules of etiquette in this business and the info you're looking for again is on a need to know basis. I don't need to know if clients are married, how many children they have, etc and vice versa. As long as I provide a good service, they have a good time and I get paid is all that is really important. This is the way this business works. Educating yourself on the protocol of a business that demands discretion can go a long way. )

I know Madison. She's a friend of mine. She's open minded, but not a mindless body open to simple, brutal abuse. She has to be respected for the style of service she offers. BDSM opens up a whole world of world of pleasurable possibilities, but it also invites unwelcome expectations. Please be gentle and respectful if booking a session. And as always, protect your sub. If you do protect your sub as your most treasured possession, you will most likely be invited back for more fun. I may sound over-protective, but she's a sweet soul.

Pretty sure the OP was looking for info on who offers this, not on who thinks it's "yuck" or "nasty". If this is something you don't offer or are not interested in, fair enough, but then why even click on a thread entitled "Extreme Gagging" in the first place? A fetish is a very personal thing to many. And usually, not something one has very much control over. I feel that someone should be able to come to cerb (and to the "BDSM, Fetish, etc" section of cerb of all places) and inquire about a fetish openly without having to be told his/her fetish is gross, immoral, etc.....regardless of what it is.....assuming of course that said fetish is occurring between two (or more :p) consenting adults. Ye ol' cerb motto applies here. If thou shant have anything good or helpful to say, thou shouldn't say anything at all. That being said I'm also interesting in knowing who provides an extreme-ish DT (although for me personally, not to the point of puking). Additional Comments: You may want to inquire with Berlin about this. I haven't had the pleasure of seeing her yet and I'm not sure if she offers exactly what you're looking for. But on her website she quotes "messy/gagging blowjobs" as part of the fetish/submission services she offers. Like I said, I haven't met her yet but she's very reputable and has very good reviews. Considering the nature of the request it's probably a good idea to PM her or e-mail her first to determine if she offers exactly what you're looking for.

I do strapon play when I'm in town. I do not however offer rimming, and not many ladies...and those that do, you can except them to use a dental dam...

Guys, I know you all want to help assist your fellow hobbiest but posting rates is not welcome. You can PM them if you wish but please do not post them publicly. The ladies are the ONLY members allowed to post rates and they are ONLY allowed to post rates in the schedules and announcements area - the guys are not permitted to post rates. We most certainly will not allow anyone to promote ladies who are undercutting other sp's. I know if you find someone offering really cheap rates you want to share it with other members but this undercuts all the ladies who work hard to promote themselves online and shows no respect to the real escorts we have here on cerb as our members. Ladies you find off dating sites are not working full time in the hobby so posting some street walker rate they are offering just helps kill the industry. The ladies here on cerb read that and get very upset. Some stop contributing to the site because of stuff like that. Sorry but that does not make a SP friendly board in any way. Also... I do not wish to moderate the social groups but the social groups are not to be used to circumvent the rules of the site. If I find posts on the social groups that break the site rules I will be upset and delete the social group. It is the responsibility of the owner of the social group to moderate his or her group. The only extra permission I have given for the social groups is that if the social group is a private group we will allow full nude photos to be posted in private in the group (as long as you have permission to post them of course).