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It's very easy to read the discussions and become disillusioned thinking that every guy on here is as great at the ones who post. But they're not. In fact, the two biggest creeps I've met, came from right here on cerb. I think this is something people need to keep in mind every time a similar conversation comes up on here (about pre-paying, references, anything to do with a lady's procedures). The guys who participate in the forums are probably not the ones we need to worry about. The procedures aren't necessarily for them (Even my own. I posted on another thread that I would ask someone to leave if they didn't put the payment down up front. I've met some gentlemen from cerb that I'm so comfortable with based on their post history/attitude on here I didn't even think of it, and wasn't at all worried about being ripped off. But that's the exception, not the rule - and it was MY choice to bend my rule, not his). The procedures are there for the big, sometimes dark, sometimes scary, part of this business that you guys just don't see on here. But that doesn't mean it's not there.

I also enjoy the GFE MA experience. I find it more sensual then F/S most of the time. The MA's are often gorgeous. There can be a lot more teasing involved. I often have a lot of sore muscles and this helps relieve the pain. Once you have seen some MA's regularly a trust and bond can happen where you can talk about anything. I also like to give the girls massages also, they seem to enjoy it. It is fun to slowly explore a woman's body and tease and please her also. With some woman there is actually more kissing then with a SP. These MA's know how to tease and prolong the pleasure till the decide when you are ready to be released. Plus I enjoy the before and after showers with the MA's, some times it's hard to leave the shower. I've had many great experiences with Massage sessions. Sometimes it's almost everything but f/s, but it's fun and sensual and the pleasure last's the full hour :) . For those men that have not tried a MA experience, you should try one with one of the highly recommended MA's here. She may changed your mind about getting massage. It can be highly addictive. How can you not enjoy a beautiful naked sexy woman, sliding up and down you with her oily body. Her soothing strokes and teasing hands. Passionate kissing of your lips and kissing of up and down your body. Oooh, This is getting me excited again, bring back recent memories. Going to have to get another Massage soon :)

Splitz, I apologize if my post was one of the ones you took offense to my friend. I assure you my intention was not mean spirited or malicious. I was having a bit if fun with the imagery of the "all boys tree house" while trying to keep things light spirited. I confess that I've been told on occasion that my sense of humor is an acquired taste ;-) . None the less, I'm sorry if I sounded sarcastic, or even less than supportive. That being said, I still am not convinced that such a section is in the best interest of cerb. You have actually put fourth some good arguments, (which I was struggling for with any previous threads on the subject), but I still think that the potential for abuse out weighs any positive benefit it could bring. I still see it as a means for guys to say things about sps behind their back. I believe that at least on this site, one shouldn't say something about someone if they wouldn't want them to see it. Perhaps I'm an idealist. Either way, I'm sorry if I offended you. Mikey

I am unfortunately familiar with those underwhelming experiences where the most elaborate ads, with all the right words and seductive pictures, too often begin to lose their luster with the first reply (I am at a loss to understand how someone claiming to be a university educated companion can compose a message without spelling one word correctly). Too many ladies do not come close to living up to what they promise. There is of course the other end of the spectrum. I have met so very many wonderful ladies who genuinely love what they do - intelligent, gorgeous women who cherish the connections they make, love to explore and do MORE than they promise. It is those treasures that make navigating the minefield so rewarding. We are now entering Savannah Lane territory. I first saw Savannah's ad a several months ago. Her pictures were more captivating than most but I could not find any other information on her. There were no reviews at the time and no one I knew had heard of her. I waited and waited, then finally decided to send her an email anyway. Her reply was refreshing - concise but detailed, intelligent and thoughtful. There were no catch phrases or promotional banter but rather the kind of conversation you would only expect from someone with genuine interest. Not long after, I received a glowing recommendation from a friend. Savannah was now a must see. I saw Savannah in a wonderful hotel downtown. She was offering incalls that day but I had also booked a room there and she came to me. I have a special affinity for two things - dark nylons is one and jeans is the other, preferably faded, tight and torn. She arrived wearing jeans, not torn but sufficiently faded and they hugged her curves nicely. It was a wonderful start! We had already spoken quite a bit by email so there was an immediate familiarity. Conversation was fun and flowed easily into the intimacy that followed. Her pictures are accurate but do not tell the whole story. Savannah is very attractive with a face that draws your attention! She is tall and well proportioned, certainly not big but not skinny either, with breasts that are natural, not huge but very nice - nice to see, nice to feel, with nipples you love to wrap your lips around. And the view between Savannah's legs, when they are open and held back, especially when she is wet, which she will almost certainly be (I am trying my best to be tactful), is as perfect as I have ever seen! Savannah has a seething sexuality. Its' intensity takes you by surprise. When the passion starts you can see the world around her disappear and YOU are all there is. Smart, confident and poised she is nonetheless not at all shy about letting her most primal urges show. "Oh dear God! Oh Fuck!" and even more colourful phrases soon replace intelligent conversation. There is nothing timid about Savannah's PSE. There is nothing held back, nothing half hearted. This is the kind of full bore Porn Star treatment guys dream of. Do not make the mistake of thinking of this as a contest - you will NOT keep up! Her kisses are as passionate or as light as you prefer, or as the circumstance warrants. From energy draining reverse cowgirl to slow, sensual missionary, Savannah Lane is second to no one! I did not expect to find what I found in Savannah Lane. I have a hesitation for seeing local ladies - several less than stellar encounters over the years have made me leery. Savannah, however, easily keeps company with the best ladies who travel here, as well as those I have seen elsewhere. Her reputation is spreading and some of the most elite ladies who come here now seek her out. For those especially careful gentleman, there are ladies you likely already see who will recommend her. Definitely a must see!

CRYSTALFORYOU I met with this FANTASTIC Lady from Montreal. She is really a full meal deal. beautiful all natural 34 d, smooth tan skin, great eyes and a wicked little smile to die for. Cute French accent and is really warm and friendly. She enjoys a good white wine. Not a clock watcher, If you do not see her you are missing out on a treat that every one should indulge. Has a very toned body and a peach that is out of this world. I will repeat as often as she will visit Winnipeg. A real 10 across the boards. Royal Alexandra

I met this lovey girl the other day. Gp is mainly girls that left PK. Kathryn was a very nice change of pace, I'm no good at the description part, and the fact that this is my first reco, should give you and idea of just how great she was. Light hearted, positive, BBJ Daty Kissing all on the menu, all of the stuff you know about the agency she left, but with her spin, and it's a winning combination. I've met other girls at GP, and will be going back, very much so. one more thing, Kathryn loves to jump in a hot tub, if that's your thing.

Not as an SP. And if I decide to rent a hotel room, when checking in, I always make small conversation about it being a romantic stay, and my husband will be joining me after work. But, in the 90's I used to frequent a bar in Hull called Roxanne's. Total metal chick. If I couldn't find a drive I would bus it to the Westin and taxi it from there. That meant getting off at the Rideau Center and going through the lobby of the hotel. I was confronted on a few occasions and immediately would ask for the Manager and would eloquently rip off a new one to said bellhop in front of him about not judging a book by it's cover. After a while they never bothered me.

I love being an MA because it is more than just a sexual experience. .. because with my touch I can make people dream and fantasize about wonderful things... because by touching you create bounds and connection. .. Being an MA has allowed me to discover the sensual me... I have learn to know a gentleman and how to please them and make them sensations that cant be compared to anything else...

Stopped in to see Alexis, has an add on BP, last night. She doesn't post face pics, so when she opened the door I did a double take, this girl is a cutie! She has curves in all the right places and a friendly attitude. The only drawback was her incall is in an ugly part of town in a run down apartment. PM for details...

My mistake. Looks like I got the Kathryn's mixed up. Thank you for clarifying. Last thing I wish is for her to get a bunch of calls requesting out-of-town appointments.

My take on it ... A ladies private section is very valuable and provides safety among the ladies....cause they realllllly need it !!!! unfortunately.......and maybe even supports comradarie and soothes the atmosphere among the ladies working side by side in the industry ....I don't know...just surmising. Worst case a guy might not get his rocks off with a certain chosen provider or several maybe. Life goes on. A private section among the boys has the potential to destroy reputations and careers and livelyhoods of the ladies and in some cases their kids wellbeing. Even if moderated that sometimes will not and cannot prevent irreputable damage IMO. Life doesn't just go on and heartbreak and hard times can be involved..... Use the PM system and recco's fellas status quo is my opinion. That's all I got.

Any local providers you've seen that were very talented or stick out more than others?

Ladies and gents, its now official !! The Ottawa Christmas Social will be held Thursday, December 12th, so mark your calendar!! We are opening the Christmas festivities for 70 members in good standing (35 gents and 35 ladies). Loneskater and I have taken all the comments the attendees have made during the last social to keep improving these events! We are also be holding the festivities at a new venue. Gents, tickets are available at a cost of $35 (payable in person or e-mail money transfer), which will cover snacks, a drink for the ladies and door prizes. You will be kept updated via this thread as things progress. As it's an event organized by and for the CERB community, please contact myself or Loneskater directly should you have questions. Cheers!! MisterT

Wishing a very happy birthday to MellyBelly! Have fun today!

Wishing you a great bday, Melly Belly, and a fast recovery. Now, talk about a passionate encounter!:biggrin: Best, toine

Well, thank you for the vote of confidence on my baking skills, i appreciate it! I can sure give it a try .... but then again, while we are on the topic of not-so-secret ingredients, should i reveal my secret for ... cupcake frosting, then??? :icon_eek:

Brandon is a smaller community so you need to be discreet. Don't post the name of the hotel you use. Don't give it out to customers unless they have arranged a rendezvous. It can be very lucrative as there is plenty of demand but very few suppliers.

I just watched this intensely thought provoking and incredibly compelling documentary called Not Criminally Responsible about mental illness and recovery. Seriously I have not been that moved by a doc in quite a while. Check it out. You can watch the whole tv version of the doc at http://www.cbc.ca/doczone/episodes/not-criminally-responsible. The tv version will air again on CBC News Channel on Sunday Oct 20 at 8:00pm. And the feature length version will air also Sunday Oct 20 on The Documentary Channel. "There has been a quiet revolution in recent years in the treatment of people with mental disorders who commit an act of violence. Not long ago such patients would almost certainly have been considered hopelessly deranged and dangerous, and confined to an "asylum for the criminally insane" for life. Not anymore. Today people declared not criminally responsible are frequently being released back onto the streets, a number of them potentially extremely dangerous men and women, not only suicidal but homicidal. Most are incurable. NCR: Not Criminally Responsible tells the story of a troubled young man who stabbed a complete stranger 6 times in a crowded shopping mall while gripped by psychosis. Twelve years later, his victim, who miraculously survived, is terrified to learn that he's out, living in the community under supervision. He's applying for an absolute discharge, and if he succeeds, he'll no longer be required to take the anti-psychotic drugs that control his mental illness. With unprecedented access to the patient, the victim, and the mental institution, the film looks at both sides of the debate and puts a human face on the complex ethical issues raised. Read More..." Read a review about the doc at The G&M: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/television/documentary-takes-a-look-inside-the-perpetrators-experience/article14885202/

Coles Notes version:it means NOTHING! A well respected independent is better than ANY Winnipeg agency. Don't waste your money on someone who does nothing but handle a phone while some lady is working hard to earn hers. Additional Comments: Meanwhile the mayor's incompetent pal walks away with a golden parachute worth a hundred times that (rumoured to be $445,000) despite costing the city tens of millions in screwups. No police investigation, no public outcry...but God forbid we should have an unlicensed escort running around.

Happy Birthday MellyBelly - hope its a great one!

Although I don't partake in this lifestyle in Thunder Bay one lady who's tours include TB I can wholeheartedly recommend. That is Emily Rushton. She is an absolute gem. You can see my recos of her under Toronto, Kingston and London forums RG

And I agree of course that the kissing analogy is not a good comparison. Your very explanation as to why it isn't a good comparison is one of the reasons I changed my view on the private section in the first place. So of course that comparison doesn't hold up. If I thought it did than I wouldn't have changed my mind. My reason for bringing up the comparison was to convey that Prior to my changing my mind about the private section my error in thinking was not inspired by malicious intentions but rather an unrealistic perception of how the private section would have run. I realize now that it wouldn't work like that.

A while ago, Tianna posted this pic in the Best Bums thread, with the heading "I Love Love Love My Bum." Needless to say, this caught my attention :), and we began a fun and sexy exchange of pm's until we were finally able to meet this week. And what a meeting it was! Epic is the word, we've decided! She's an incredibly attractive woman: her face, her eyes, her smile, her irresistible breasts, and that bum! She's not the only one who loves it!! :) The initial embrace, feeling warm and desirous. The shower together, as we get to know each other in the froth and the warmth. The massage, first on her, then on me; the visit to the hot tub; then back to the massage table to finish off. Beauty, talent, playful attitude, and a sweet disposition. An epic encounter with a luscious woman. That sums it up.

If you come with a shopping list, you are in the wrong place...!This not what the lifestyle is about. You want to be satisfied, just act natural, enjoy the company and do not make demands. Just enjoy and "play" with what is on hand and I am sure you will leave happy and satisfied It is not a question of filling your shopping list...If it is your concern, you are the problem.

watching the slow deterioration of a parent's health. Growing old not only sucks, but sometimes seems just inhumane.

It's just Miss Jaimie, who sometimes advertises as Angeline. She's busty and curvy, about 50 years old and has been there for at least 20 years. You can expect basic, non-GFE service for a reasonable price.

Additional Comments: And one more :)

Could someone tell me exactly what the purpose of a "mens-only" forum would be? What would be posted in it? Who would gain access? How would we screen them? Access to the SP-only forum, per the FAQ: Like Cat, I am uneasy about what information could be shared behind closed doors. With a review or recommendation, I see what people write about me. I have the option to ask the member in question to change what they have written, or to contact a mod. Same with forum posts. I'm aware that information is sometimes shared via PM, and there is already the potential there for inaccurate or misleading information to be shared -- I don't think we need another venue for this. We have folks already posting private information on the forum occasionally -- addresses for incall locations, for example -- and at least in a public venue these things are flagged and removed quickly. How would a private forum be moderated, who would do it, and what would the rules be?

For me, it is easy to see CERB as a community mostly populated with caring, intelligent, adult men and women. And then a comment like Cleo's catches my eye and it's like walking into a cold shower. And I remember that even here there are bound to be a few card-carrying asshats. When I read things like that I am surprised, on some level or the other, that providers even open their doors to us. But I'm happy they do! :) Note: The previous comment was not specifically aimed at anyone participating in this discussion or any other.

This is by far THE MOST disturbing thing I have EVER read on CERB and believe me I've read some interesting threads. It is ALWAYS 1000000% THE LADY'S RULES! You do not make the rules, EVER. You can inquire about services provided but you DO NOT dictate what a girl will or will not do with you, how she screens her clients, never YOUR CHOICE!....HOW DARE YOU EVEN SUGGEST SUCH A THING??? Yes, I am yelling, caps lock was not an accident there. I am infuriated by this remark... Even though I know most of the ladies here don't like being compared to other business, I personally don't see a difference (If we believe we're "different" then no wonder the public shuns us, I'd rather be accepted among ALL professions than cast aside, my POV), so here goes: Do you walk into a restaurant and alter their menu? Do you buy a car and tell them what you are going to pay for it? Do you tell your physician which medications to prescribe you? No. No. No. DO NOT PRESUME TO DICTATE HOW WE BUSINESS OWNERS RUN OUR BUSINESSES. OUR BUSINESSES, NOT YOURS. disgusting. /end rant

I've been vaccinated, by choice, and at my own expense. The HPV Vaccine Guardasil does not protect one from every strain of HPV virus, but I figure it's better to get it than not get it... right? Every bit of protection helps. I am over 35, but as I'm single and sexually active my doctor didn't think twice about prescribing it, I'm considered 'high risk' due to those circumstances. I'm sure it's also available to males outside the target age range depending on your specific circumstances. It's available no charge for young men and women late teens I understand they are vaccinated as part of the series of standard vaccinations. It's three needles, taken at 0, 3 and 6 months. As they have to be refrigerated you need to have them dispensed separately, so each needle is about $175 including dispensing fees.... approx $525 and worth every penny. I also got the Twinrix vaccine .. cost a couple of hundred bucks.. that's the one for Hep A & B. Also available from your doctor with a simple request.

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I don't see why. Sure, this won't be everyone's idea of a great time, but provided both performers and spectators are on board with what's going to happen and what the rules are, I see no reason why anyone should be uncomfortable.

Note to American politicians: you're REALLY unpopular.

24/7 and Halicuties are the same "agency" with the same number. Gentlemen please stay safe, do your research and Google phone numbers, as well as always check the warning section. Big Hugs, Lexy

It's the only thing I have to know who you are. Yes, it could be spoofed, but there are always risks. If I let someone call me from a blocked number, and give them my address, let them in here and they do something to me, I have NOTHING to contact the police with. Nothing to go on. To me, it's not different than being picked up by a stranger outside. So for my safety and security, I will never, ever book from the blocked number. I google the phone numbers, and cross-check the bad date section. Many spoofed numbers are out there on the internet, so i've caught many. I know a phone number isn't much, but it's something. What I tell guys who say they want to contact me from a blocked one is this: If you don't trust me with your phone number, i don't trust you with my address. It's that simple.

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Great topic MF and great additions bibbybob, I find that allot of ladies don't bother to even look at others scheduals before they tour. Some of us have dates posted on our calendars up to 4 weeks in advance so it is not like it is that hard to check prior to booking. In a business where we should all work together to benefit each other, it does not always work that way. Eventually, some of these ladies will learn to plan better and not just jump the gun on booking a trip. The good ladies will come back, even when it is quiet as a travelling lady can't always expect a busy trip everywhere all the time. Some cities can support a few touring ladies a month, as each lady bring something different to the table regarding experience, price,etc. There are more factors than just a lot of travelling ladies in a city in a month that can cause a ladies trip to be disappointing, but this is a business of living and learning and if you only look out for yourself you wont get very far ahead. After a lady has a few bad trips to a city that has interest in her, she will need to look back and find out why? And yes you can blame me for the influx of ladies, I have worked my ass of to get other ladies to enjoy in some of my favourite cities as I know that you gentlemen will enjoy their company as much as I do, if not more.

People that swerve to the left suddenly before they turn right. Seriously? You actually passed a driving test? People who tailgate me no matter how fast or slow I go. If I speed up, they catch up with me. If I slow down they slow down too... WTF? Grow a pair and pass me already you moron. I'm not a sheep herder! Always waiting at the Doctor or Dentist. How come I have to show up on time? What exactly makes you think that your time is more valuable than mine? Blatantly misleading, dishonest and/or unfair marketing and general business practices such as: - "Real bacon flavour!" - Charging me to receive my bill in the post instead of via email- and then charging me for the internet... WTF? Really? I have to pay you for your bill? - "The price is as low as..." - "Lasts up to..." - Less cashiers and more self-serve check-outs - no price reductions... less tellers and more charges for IBM and internet banking... increased flight prices because of high gas prices - gas prices go down, no decrease in airfare... - "Recommened by Doctor's Associates" (Doctor's Associates Inc owns Subway). - Offering a new package with lower rates and keeping me with the higher-priced package just because I "didn't ask". ...Big "hooray" for capitalism! When I'm standing in line at the grocery store, another cash opens, and everybody runs and pushes to get to it first. You see the same behaviour waiting in any line... pushing, butting, racing... That's really very disgusting when you think about... I'm afraid to think about how these people might behave in some kind of disaster scenario... seriously. Whew! Gotta catch my breath now... :oops:

I agree with Dummpy's answer, to look at from a perspective you drop $$$ 1st visit, and than $$$ 2nd visit and those may only be 1 hour visits. I think your payment really includes a tip.Now, I have gone on record in prior threads, I try to bring flowers on my visits, if the florist is open! as I generally take early morning appointments...(I like to be the first man of the day). I think it really helps the mood when we first meet, and its a nice gesture, woman do like flowers. I have also bought and brought massage oil/sex toy's to the provider and left her with the gifts for the next time, or she can use for herself. I try to remember that meeting a SP is first date, so you try to settle your nerves down by playing with the toys or taking in some compliments about the flowers.