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NEW LOCATION! 613-899-5879 Text only Now only available downtown at a LUXURY condo. Heavens Playground just expanded..... as a DUO on FRIDAYS with the brand new, young petite sexy spinner HAILEY HEAVENS....My Dirty lil Sister. (Pictures to come, But description for now- below) Reduced Schedule now in place. I am only available for playing on Monday and Thursdays as a one on one experience, and Fridays as thee next top DUO...... YOU be the Judge ;-) So if you're ready to Roar, Drool and Slurp..... Then Giddy Up- Text Me for availabilities. (Currently Booking for June 5th & 6th) Services YMMV TBD ;-) But definitely include, FULL body Massage, Nude Reverse, Mutual touching, Bodyslides, Shower together, etc etc (NO FS) HOURS 1030AM-5PM Monday, Thursday and Friday (These days may change- so feel free to ask) RATES 120-30Mins, 150-45mins, 180-60mins (Duo rates are the same $ each girl) ABOUT ME I am quirky and flirtatious, I enjoy great conversations and if you bore me- I will tell you ( I expect the same really). I enjoy playing vinyl records and music is a definite must while we are together (Lana Del Rey, Cat Stevens, Bob Dylan, Mumford and Sons, Rihanna..... I am a music slut) I am a total pleasure whore. I will trick you into massaging me..... so beware ;-) I am also a shower hog, but you can watch haha. With all that said, I absolutely will give you my undivided attention for the duration of our date and we can get lost into our sexual deviance together ;-) TEXT ONLY 613-899-5879 HAILEY HEAVENS Is a sweet, young, bubbly 24 year old girl. She is 5 feet fuck all. 100lbs. Short dark hair and piercing blue eyes. Tasteful Tattoos. And a personality that lured me to her instantly. She aims to please.....and LOVES to be pleased. We practice everything we know on each other first.... and a few more times, just to be sure ;-) Did Hell freeze over? No.... But, Heaven just got Hotter.

My breasts are big and natural. They have hang, are sensitive and fun to play with (I know because I do). If some exclude me because they're not perky and whatever... to each their own. My breasts are fair game to those who see their value.

Okay, I'll admit it: you've got me. I have no idea whether this is sarcastic or not.

And now for a comedic interlude. :) :) :) Check out how Agnes Brown (Mrs. Brown's Boys) deals with her snooty daughter-in-law's mother.:)

I am appalled at some responses and attacks the OP is getting for asking a valuable question. I am sure he isn't the only one wondering what to do in this situation. He did not name who the lady was or which Spa was involved so he had every right to ask this question in public. Many have provided great responses which are different on how to handle this situation which is fine. We all see things differently and that is one of the purpose on the Board, to exchange ideas about the business so we can all improve our knowledge of the industry! Maybe some need to be reminded this is not the other board where we attack other members and call them names. For the one that think he is stupid for asking, shame on you and look at yourself in the mirror. You might not see perfection! Nobody here is forced to agree with everyone. However this Board is about respect, learning and not being intimidated for asking a valuable question. DO NOT FORGET!

They are the part of the female body most often critiqued, sexualized and lusted after. Some will comment to augmented breasts as being fake, some will comment to saggy breasts as being gross. Many of us are so hard on one another and can cause some to want to change, to feel insecure or unworthy. We are made to believe by todays standards and the media that they should be big, round and point to the sun. But in reality they are as different as our faces and age doesn't dictate their perkiness nor does a body type dictate their size-ie: a larger woman will have larger breasts and smaller will have smaller. Natural or augmented all breasts are beautiful, but should we put as much importance on them as we do? After all if a woman were to loose hers, due to illness, accident or however, should she then feel less than a woman? If you go by todays standards and ideals, she might, but there is far more to making a woman feminine, beautiful and worthy than her breasts, especially in many other cultures. I wonder why North Americans base so much importance on them? What's your opinion and do you? Are breasts what you think make women sexy, beautiful and why? Be honest;) http://www.007b.com/breast_gallery.php I will add the biggest reason that caused me to want to enlarge mine was to look more like what the media, magazines and advertising depicts as beautiful breasts, along with growing up with a father and brother, male friends and boyfriends, who I often heard talking about breasts and that their opinions were larger was better. Some of my decision was also based on the fact that and for whatever reasons beyond the above, visually, I find that large augmented breasts look more beautiful than smaller or larger natural breasts. It's sad that as women we can be made to feel less than by such unrealistic standards, yet many of us can be.

Ahh but this rides on the assumption that married SP's hide their chosen profession from their spouses or partners, as their partner would "feel bad". While it may be rare, there are SUPPORTIVE spouses and partners in the industry... And even some who are aroused by what their women do. As RG would say... Just a rambling :)

"If married men are more likely not to get attracted then why is the divorce rate so high in this country? I wonder if the stalkers in this business are all single?" I do know of one man that did leave his wife for an escort, but I think that's a rarity. More often its the wife that ends the marriage after she find out what he's doing. Men see escorts because they want the best of both worlds... Good sex and a blissful domestic life. Its rare to get both with the same woman. Well, that's my reason anyway. I have no intention of leaving my wife. I like her actually, we get along well, we go out regularly, I get along with her family, we have 4 wonderful children (teenagers and adults)... the only complaint I have about her at all is that she doesn't want as much sex as me... In fact she doesn't even realize how rarely we have sex... She never believes me if I tell her its been over a month (she will say, no I'm sure it hasn't been that long). I have a couple of escorts that I consider friends, but I do not view them romantically. We have a great time together, we talk, we joke around, one even let me paint a picture of her, but I have no interest in leaving my wife for those gals (and vice versa). I think divorce is more common with affairs than with escorts because its much harder to keep an affair secret and they often have an emotional component with the other woman. I believe that the divorce rate would be a lot lower if people would focus on getting the sex they need from a professional, rather than from an amateur affair.

One of the elements that brought me to this profession is the sheer number of UNhappily married men. Many men are married to women that they love, or did love. But the pressure of both working, not having time for each other, mortgages, naughty children, aging parents, and long commutes take their toll. A man faces the back half of his life wondering if it were all worth it. They probably haven't had sex in years. He wants to feel like a man again. But if he has an affair, he is going to lose half of everything. This is where the courtesan/mistress comes in. Compensation is the best thing ever. It keeps the lines drawn succinctly in their relationship. I didn't say that love won't creep into it! We are all human. But cash helps. True story: if the man left his wife, he'd lose the house - so he slept in a bath tub for over 2 years. A man sneaks downstairs when his wife is asleep to get on the net and "talk" to a woman with blood in her veins. Sneaking around in their own homes! And if they are busted, they are called monsters. We all need love, affection, and a damn good badabingbadaboom. Life is very good; lets enjoy!

I absolutely agree! While I often say with tongue in cheek "I love HMOPH's!" it is completely truthful. Happily Married Other Peoples Husbands make up my favourite guests for so many reasons. It's a perfect fit for my preferred business model, the ME (mistress experience). It means I never deal with the bad habits, annoying idiosyncrasies and daily grind; that is left for the woman who will inherit his estate and I get to enjoy all the delights without the trials and tribulations of day to day routine. I never have to worry they are going to arrive in a mood, never deal with him not pulling his weight around the house and he'll never steal my covers in the middle of the night, every night. I don't have to pick up his dirty laundry, deal with his family or struggle with keeping the passion alive. These parts are non existent in the relationships I indulge in. HMOPH's will never assume to be a part of my life outside of the negotiated parameters, never arriving in the middle of night thinking I will welcome him in, never assume an invite out for dinner off the clock is an acceptable thing to do. They seldom see blurred lines when paint is neon yellow clear. In my privileged experience, HMOPH's is always positive, he's always happy to be here, I'm always glad he is here. Our time together is focused, we ONLY do the important stuff like touch, talk and feel in an honest, nonjudgemental way. We spend time together knowing how truly precious that time is; we both savour every moment and when it's over we are grateful to have experienced it. We look forward to the next visit without it being a painful yearning or need. It's having all the best parts of a relationship without any of the head aches or heartbreaks. So yes Delilah, I LOVE married men... cat

"Are breasts what you think make women sexy, beautiful and why?" To that question I can honestly say no. Now, if you'd asked are breasts one of the things that can make a woman sexy, then I probably would say yes. There's no way I could deny that I absolutely love breasts. And yes, for me at least "the more the merrier" but I've never met a breast I didn't like, regardless of size and shape, and just like most things there's different people that will prefer all different sizes. But as much as breasts turn me on so do another 100 things about women! Many of them are other physical attributes: nice eyes, nice legs, nice smile, nice hair, nice ass, nice feet. Everybody has at least one nice feature! And then there are the non-physical traits which are at least as sexy if not more. I don't care how perfect I think your breasts are, if you're a cruel person, I'm not going to find you sexy! But a generous person, one with confidence or a sense of humour or sincerity, that's always going to be attractive. So yes, I like looking at breasts. I like touching them even more. I find them a huge turn on, and the bigger they are the more I'm turned on. But breasts aren't what makes a woman a woman, nor do they determine her value as a person, and even if tomorrow every breast on the planet disappeared, I wouldn't have any problem still finding ladies plenty attractive!

I removed the nasty comments that are not in the spirit of the cerb community.

I think I've done Greek a total of about 5-6 times in my pooning career. Tried different techniques. I've researched, thought about, imagined, fantasized...etc, but as you all know, variety is the spice of whatever. Conclusions: Gentle is good Loads of lube is good Protection is good Toys can be good Positions are good (limited experience here) hmmm...what else is good? To be honest, I just don't have a lot of experience to bring to the table. Are there are Greek Goddesses & Gods out there who have wealth of understanding & joy to share? Is Greek an absolute must-do or a mysterious, dark secret reserved only for the true explorer?

http://www.withoutwax.tv/2012/02/21/what-does-being-sarcastic-say-about-you/ Sometimes we may read things here with an undertone that hints at sarcasm, and quite possibly it is intended as such. I found this interesting read that may help those who feel the need to use it, as it explains why and what sarcasm says about those who need to use it.

The spilled milk story reminded me of me letting the milk jug slip out of my hand one time and pretty much drenching the whole kitchen floor. My roommate at the time says "hey you missed a spot over there". We both laughed. I guess the expression "no use crying over spilled milk" makes sense. No use getting upset or angry about it and if there is an opportunity to make a joke, I'm there with bells on. Also, it's not so much what the person says, it's how they say it, and most importantly how WE choose to take it. I like to roll with the punches whenever possible. Life is too short to get hung up on trying to find hidden meanings in things or automatically assuming another person has an agenda.

Mmmmmm Greek! Bring on my toga! I love it and have for a very long time. For me, it's about a good lube and guiding the initial approach. Of course, it's also about being relaxed. If you're not relaxed, it is definitely much more difficult to accomplish and not as pleasurable. If it's something that you've had bad experiences with (as a woman), my recommendation is toys, varying sizes. Learn your own body and reactions and then you'll be much more open and comfortable with the exploration of a partner. There are times I crave it and times that a little tease and penetration with fingers makes everything else feel so much better and more intense. It is a very intense pleasurable experience and I indulge whenever I can. Like anything else, it's a personal thing. Love it, hate it, tolerate it, feelings about it are as individual as people. I do believe that there are many people who would probably love it but their experiences haven't been good because of having a partner ignorant of what they're doing. I also whole heartedly believe that men should at least solo sample this as well. The ass has so many amazing nerve endings that not exploring it because of whatever per-conceived notion they have about it, is a shame. In closing....I love me some butt!

I think like anything it's something that you either like or don't. Something you'll find erotic and be turned on by, or something you won't . I too have only tried it a couple of times, the first being unsuccessful, the second barely;) I don't think it'll be something I'll try again, it hurt to much:( To those who enjoy it-enjoy. For those wondering it's at least worth a try. For those not interested, that's fine as well. It's healthy to explore eroticism and to experiment with sex, between consenting adults. If you don't how else will you know what you'll like or dislike and what you are good at and not so great at.

An over zealous puppy smacking his head into my jaw. Bruises and swelling :(. Not so bad now but I looked like a victim of abuse all weekend! Additional Comments: An over zealous puppy smacking his head into my jaw. Bruises and swelling :(. Not so bad now but I looked like a victim of abuse all weekend!

That stuff always boggles my mind. I definitely could see that being a huge no-no for you ladies. Honestly, why some guys are so lacking in self-esteem that they have to talk about, send pictures of or anything else of their dick is sad in a way. Seriously, do they not understand that you women have seen all sorts of them and are not impressed in the least. Additional Comments: Oh and as for the L word and getting possessive, can't understand how some people don't grasp the concept of boundaries. Absolutely crazy, imo for that to even get into the consciousness Not that I couldn't like one of you ladies a lot if we were intimate on several occasions but liking someone and being a friend is okay. Know where the line is and don't go near it. Tongue in cheek, I do say my little guy does "love" pussy, lol. Of course, he can't make life decisions or get jealous so it's all good.:dncdick:

Cristy we have never met unfortunately. To answer your ?? In my opinion breasts do not make a woman, a woman makes a woman. I like all breasts.. It is the woman's personality that makes her sexy and attractive. I can tell there is no need for you to change anything about your appearance you are just beautiful the way you are. Unfortunately I haven't had the pleasure of meeting you but you look amazing. Woman are all beautiful the way they are. Sometimes changing the way one looks etc.. gathers the wrong attention.. Unfortunately the media is to blame for the majority by stereotyping woman and men in some cases.. Cristy you are beautiful the way you are don't change a thing..

People who justify their own ill will, hatred, and judgement lack the courage to question the source of their fear. No one is capable of making you upset without your consent Additional Comments:

Dancers who take not being able to count to new and ridiculous heights. I can deal with adding the odd song, but two songs becoming... six? Ferfucksake...

I don't know what you don't feel like you fit in! I have found your contributions to be quite lovely. However I respect your decision. You have to do what's best for you :) Take care, PisaqLove. I'm sad we never got to meet. I wish you all the best!!! Xoxo

I am both sad at the many things that are bandied about in the media from ignorant and hurt people while I am also thankful for the may blessing that enter my life. Mementos are all about the focus!

20 years old... tanned, fit, blond who loves to have fun Thursday, May 29th Paradise Spa, West end 613-820-8887

Honestly, I don't pay much attention to married or single, for me, it's about the PERSON who shows up at my door and what energy they bring into my oasis. Everyone has a reason for seeing an SP, something is needed or wanted. Single or married, I care about the person that shows up and their story. Everything else is part of the connection story and is written as life progresses. I appreciate the time and energy given to me, the pleasure and enjoyment, the energy. To me, it's not about the label, it's about the person.

Certainly a sexy woman with great breasts will catch my eye but lots of things about women can catch my eye.... to capture my interest and my willingness to engage I need more than just great tits. For me the beauty of a woman is very intangible.... it's that wholeness that encompasses how she acts and how she carries herself... it's her self assurance and her knowledge that she is sexy that I think makes her sexy regardless of how she looks.... Just my opinion

Well to me my (well now ex) fiancé was the most beautiful woman in the world, and definitely she wasn't busty, actually she was (hate using the phrase) but flat chested.....but she was beautiful to me. Right up to the point she got pregnant with another man's baby I had an encounter (if you want to call it that) with an escort (if you want to call her that)...beautiful, could be a swimsuit model, busty, if she walked in a bar, guys would get whiplash from turning their head. Beautiful right up to the point she stole from me.....so yes physically beautiful, but busty or not, ugly on the inside, no character A cross section of women I have had encounters with, most busty to some degree, every recommendation I have written, well they are all beautiful (search my recos for London, Toronto, Kingston, Ottawa).....every lady I recommended is beautiful, busty or not. And while more ladies than not are busty to some extreme or not, by the same token, do you think if all SP's were polled, do you think there is a higher than average amount of busty women in the SP community compared to women overall (is that making sense???) Looks get someone in the door, for me, bust size while attractive, isn't the absolute requirement for beauty, nor is it needed to get in the door so to speak But it's that inner beauty, that quality that she could show up mascara running, hair in curlers, wearing old sweats and a tshirt, and she's still beautiful, that keeps her in the door, you want her to stay, that's what matters A rambling RG

The question being do nice breasts make a woman sexy? The simple answer is Nice breasts are sexy but no, they are not what makes the woman sexy, per se. Now, I won't lie. I love, love, love breasts. Big titties, little titties, round titties, oblong titties, perky titties, saggy titties. I love em all. But true sex appeal for me goes much deeper. I've said it before, I know, but intelligence, class and that inner beauty and spark are where the sexiness come from. The outer shell, as it were, while being visually enticing and exciting is only the first part of the overall package. It catches the eye but not necessarily the brain or the libido for me. Just one man's opinion. As for your augmentation, Miss Cristy, they are spectacular but I would wager you would be just as sexy with your natural breasts. Your intelligence and obvious kind heart would make you sexy no matter what, imo. Jus sayin.

Great post, Tracie :) Well said! I guess we can easily apply this to anyone who trys to negotiate our rates... Not only to the men from the province of Québec. Because let's face it, there are hagglers everywhere, no matter where they are from or where they live. Again, thank you for your post :) Much appreciated! From a proud French Canadian woman from Montreal, Québec xox

Wow this is getting so far out of hand it is ridiculous. Lets start with the fact that despite claims to the contrary, no spa in Ottawa, licensed or not follows the regulations set out by the city. Other jurisdictions are more explicit in stating that attendants should not touch the genitals etc of the client. Nowhere in this country is it legal to get a hand-job from nude employee. Whether or not by-law and the police turn a blind eye is a different matter. So now we are talking about "conventions" and breaking house rules. That is a totally different matter. True if word got out that a spa was openly offering FS then maybe LE would scrutinize more closely, but that is merely a supposition. If you feel that being a snitch is the way to go, and you want to turn an employee into the boss then go ahead and do it. It is not something I would do. Of course the word would probably get out, and I don't think many people would trust you much any more, or ever try and be a little generous with you. If you feel uneasy about an offer, tell the person offering you and then put it out of your mind.

This one is particularity fitting for me the last 2 days " I have learned silence from the talkative, toleration from the intolerant, kindness from the unkind, yet, strange I am ungrateful to those teachers!" Khalil Gibran

Maybe the question should be reversed and say why u do not write a recco? Having been in this business for so many years I am now more incline to repeat often with a lady I like. If u write a recco every time, when you have seen a lady more than 10 times , exclusively, on a very regular basis it will appear as you are shilling since not many are that regular. At least not many talk about being that regular as they are usually not the type to brag. In addition a lady's reccos have significance if they are written by many, not just the same guy. Finally what is more important, having someone write a recco, move on to the next one on his to do list, and wirte a similar recco or having someone show his appreciation by being a regular? Its all about what u make of it!

I enjoyed talking with you as well Zorro1990 and am thankful for all the times we shared together! I am going to be back and here to talk anytime! Thinking of you P.S..... you guys are all awesome and always there for me. I appreciate you guys so much! xoxoxoxox

I can live with CFS and CBJ. I have never had a BBBJ so I don't know what I am missing there. But I could not go without daty. Even the concept of protected daty seems like - whats the point. To give up kissing - not going to happen. Practice good hygiene several times a day, and talk openly with your doctor on a regular basis. Stay educated, play safe, choose SPs and other sexual partners wisely, and decide what risks are acceptable for yourself. IMO. Final word - respect the other persons boundaries and limitations. Do not question their choices or push them where they do not want to go.

I find that this picture below (from FB) does not belong to the " Funny Pictures", or " ..Lol Cat..." or " Puppies" thread, or any existing threads for that matter. It is cute, interesting, endearing and heart-warming. This thread should capture some incredible and interesting pictures you may find in the cyber space.

Hey babe as a precursor to what some think is a conversation. I am 44 so I am no one's baby; not even my dad's! (I will tolerate sweetie however, lol)

Right I agree! I don't mind dressing sexy for you during an in call but I prefer to keep it casual doing out calls to hotels as to not draw any attention to myself(but promise to bring my naughtyness in my bag)

I was reluctant to respond to this as then we go into more details about individual business models but I will try and do it in a way so as not to put anyone in an awkward position. You are quite right there is case law regarding a lower court ruling that an HJ received in a licensed body rub was not a sexual service. The famous Bill Clinton defense, which in my mind is absolutely stupid and illogical, but regardless the ruling was made. And you are right it has not been appealed, probably because of the Bedford case and they want to fight one war at a time. Regardless that ruling was a criminal ruling on a specific event that took place in a Licensed body rub and much was made about the policeman's conduct in that case as well. It had nothing to do with local regulation of body rubs. Cities still have the right to limit the number of spas and the activities that take place in a body rub. In many jurisdictions in Ontario they explicitly rule out touching the genitals, breasts or anal area of customers. And that is well within their rights. That is not in the Ottawa by-law but it does state that attendants must be dressed in clean clothing at all times. It also regulates lighting levels etc. So showers together, nude attendants, body slides etc are reasons for having your licensed pulled and being shut down even if the only release offered is manual. That is if you have a license. If you are unlicensed then the city could shut you down at anytime. That is if you are offering a body rub. If you are using some other legal loophole such as the SCC ruling on "swing clubs" you might be safe. However if someone made the case that one of the parties in the private club was not a member but actually paid, then that is a whole different ball of wax, and could lead to problems. So that being said, I will say one more time, no spa that I know of in Ottawa, licensed or unlicensed complies with the regulations regarding the activities that go on within the spas. They all advertise activities that are not allowed. So to perpetuate the myth that HJ's are OK, but anything else is not, is false. Why does LE or bylaw leave them alone? Most likely because as long as they operate as they do now, and the authorities receive no third-party complaints it is not worth their effort. Much the same as Strip Clubs where by requlation there must be a sign posted that warns of no touching between customer and dancers, and advising that sexually transmitted infections can be transmitted through unprotected physical contact. But we all know that contact goes on, it is expected. By-law and LE will not take action until they get a complaint.

Glad to see you were able to see a distinction between the two. But I still have to disagree with you that sarcasm is ONLY meant to "put down" others. I will give you two concrete examples (should have done that in my original post. It might have helped provide a clearer understanding): 1. My sister and I have a very close relationship. She is more than a sister to me. She is also a best friend. One day, we were cooking at her house and she asked me to take out the milk from the fridge. I grab the milk and, what do you know, the container slipped through my fingers and it spilled all over the floor. Instead of getting mad and annoyed, she used sarcasm to make a joke. She said: "Nice job! I couldn't have done a better job myself!". She gave me a wink and started laughing. Instead of me getting upset and hurt (seems to be the appropriate reaction to sarcasm, according to you), believe it or not, I laughed with her. We finally cleaned up, finished cooking and shared a great meal together and that was the end of it. My feelings weren't hurt and there was absolutely NO ill intentions with her words. It was all in good fun. 2. An example related to this industry... A genleman and I were in bed talking and enjoying a glass of nice champagne. I asked him if he would like me to refill his glass. He says "yes, of course" so I grabbed the bottle sitting in the ice bucket from the night stand. I filled up his glass half way and then did mine. While filling up mine, by accident, the gentleman "hit" my arm and champagne spilled on me. It's at that point he decided to use a sarcastic comment: "Ahhhhh, Gabby, you are so clumsy. What am I going to do with you. I guess I'm going to have to help you fix this mess and lick it off your body". My gentleman had a huge smile and grin on his face and started laughing. Again, was I supposed to get upset at his comment and take it in a way that was the opposite of his intention because his used sarcasm??? I have a great sense of humor. I don't take myself too seriously neither do I take others too seriously all the time. I think taking the blinders off, being able to see multiple sides of something, keeping an open-minded about possibilities, etc. is a choice and way of life. It might be more difficult at times but, in the end, well worth it, at least for me. Life is not always so black or white; it holds many shades of greys in between.

FWIW, some related thoughts in this thread.

Just now letting the sweet tendrils of a little moonshine creep into my brain. I might read a little, maybe listen to some Pink Floyd (Careful With That Ax, Eugene). It's been one of those days! My life is fairly drama free, but today was just a test, to make sure I was still in form. Ugh.

Hobbyists with big fucking mouths and no fucking brains! Not long ago, someone I know from my personal life responded to one of my ads. I simply wrote him back and suggested we pass due to proximity. God only knows what goes through some of these pea brains! I found out today that this brain trust apparently told his girlfriend (who works with law enforcement), AND managed to convince her that he just happened to notice my ad whilst standing in line in a store. Uh huh. I've been in this business over 40 years. In all that time, surprise surprise!! Not a single person I knew personally who answered one of my ads was actually looking for an SP. Heavens no! They just happened to be browsing SP ads and just happened to respond to mine. Whoopsie!! But use the services of an SP?? Never! So tonight, my husband gets a call from this pinheaded couple to let him (us) know that they're "not judging" me. Oh whew! I was worried about that!! And apparently the girlfriend is eating his story of just happening to accidentally respond to my ad with a spoon. Yeesh!!!! You know, I AM an SP. And I have no idea what or who is in the SP section. My husband is married to an SP, and he probably wouldn't even know how to find the places I advertise. Where do these people come up with these half-baked stories???? In any event, I figure he panicked and blabbed to his gf, thinking up this story in case I would tell on him. ???? Seriously? What in the hell would I do that for? What a classic LOSER! So disgusted! I think I'll bad date the mofo.

I make my living on repeat business. So if, for whatever reason, I'm not comfortable going through with a session, I will refund 100% cheerfully with my full apologies. My attitude is that neither of us wasted anything more than our time. But too, he's not welcome back in this case. Ever. But there are times when someone bites off more than he can chew. I try to prolong pleasure whenever I can, but sometimes they're just not receptive to such efforts. If someone books an hour and he's done and over with in 25 minutes, I'll rebate him down to half an hour. And in this case, he is welcome back. Just next time, we'll either book a shorter session or agree on what we need to do to make it last longer.

I saw her this week in Moncton. I don't think the pictures are completely accurate. She is a tiny little thing. Probably not much more than 100 pounds. I really enjoyed my time and would definitely repeat

This is a very helpful thread. I've steered clear of most of the hazards here but I think I could improve my initial contact conversation (primarily related to texts). I'm pretty sure I always at least started with a greeting. However, I had figured that you probably get a lot of texts (mostly time-wasters) and much back-and-forth would get annoying fast. Thanks for educating me. :)

I generally write recommendations for providers who have made a positive impression on me. This is my way of saying thank you and of letting others know when a great Service Provider is operating locally. I try to be selective on which enounters are recommendation worthy. If I haven't penned a recommendation it is either because the encounter was not that memorable or because life and other considerations have taken priority. I have written recommendations as late as 12 months after the encounter. In one case, I was seeing a special lady regularly for close to a year, frequently as often as weekly; when I realized that I had not offered up an endorcement of any kind! They say memory is one of the first things to go! My hope is that a well written recommendation will bring new business or renewed business to the lady in question.

Why do you repeat with the same woman?

So, there's a couple of related questions that come up occasionally. If you can't say anything negative on CERB, how do you know who to avoid? And if a SP has no recommendations, or only a few, or nothing recent, what does that mean? And does it mean she's no good? One thing to get out the way immediately: yes, the fact that you can't come out and say someone's no good (unless they're worth a post in the "scams and warnings" section, which is rare) is a limitation. However, the ethos of this board is that we accept that limitation in return for the generally more pleasant atmosphere that results, and consider the exchange worthwhile. There are other boards for those who wish to read the negative stuff, and there are plenty of folks who use them in tandem with this one. But, it must be said, trying to work out who to see - or whether or not to see someone you're considering - is kinda tricky. The point of this post is not to try and provide a solution, because there will be as many solutions as there are readers; the idea is simply to throw some thoughts out there, and hopefully to mention one or two things that the reader may not have considered. Bear in mind that there will also be one or two things (or more) that I haven't considered, so hopefully others will fill in the blanks... and also chip in if they disagree with what I've said. It is undoubtedly true that some ladies have MUCH larger reco threads than others. However, there are a great many reasons for this, and surprisingly few of them have anything to do with how good a time you'll have if you go and see the lady in question. First up: you have to actually LOOK at a reco thread to evaluate it. Some consist only of recos, but others have a lot of cruft. I'm talking about posts along the lines of, "Thanks for the reco!" "How do I contact her?" "Her website's at ..." "Is she still in the business". Officially, these should be pruned out; in practice, that tends not to happen. And that means you, dear reader, have to go and see for yourself how much of a reco thread is genuine recommendations and how much is extraneous fluff. Post-count alone doesn't tell you everything. Second: a great deal depends on how many clients a lady sees. Someone who sees several clients a day will probably have more recos than someone who sees a few clients per week. Someone who focuses on longer appointments will probably see fewer clients than someone who specializes in shorter ones. Third: people leave and re-join this business all the time. A lady who's been inactive for a while will have a blank period when she can't possibly have acquired recos. Fourth: traveling SPs may well have one reco thread in each city they visit, and those threads will necessarily look short compared to those for ladies who stay in one place. Fifth: SPs who are new to the industry tend to pick up reviews more quickly than those who have been around for a while. Sixth, and related to the above: most of us guys will write a reco once, when we first see someone and like her. We don't write another reco for the second visit, or the third. Maybe we'll write another one after several visits, but I think that's quite rare. This means that SPs who are acquiring new clients all the time will garner far more recos than those who rely on happy clients coming back for repeat visits. I suspect that some of the best SPs are almost invisible on the board, both because their clients won't write a reco for the fifty-third visit, and because they have so many repeats that they don't need to actually advertize for new clients. Seventh: a very few ladies are on the "Do Not Review" list, and there are others who prefer not to have reviews or recos written about them. Others ask us to limit what's written ("No gory details, please" is not uncommon) and this may discourage potential reviewers. Eighth: spinners tend to get more recos than BBWs. And yes, I know there's many other body types... but you see what I'm getting at, no? I don't actually know why this is, but I suspect some guys fear schoolyard-level judgement if they own up to liking bigger ladies. Ninth: younger SPs tend to get more recos than older ones. I suspect the reasons may be related to the previous point. Tenth: SPs seem to generally get more recos than MAs, and dancers hardly get any at all. I have no clue why this is. Eleventh: this is rare, but some reco threads have been deleted - ISTR this was something technical related to deleting posts from long-retired members. I can think of one SP who I've written a reco for but you'll never find it, because her old reco thread is gone. You'll have to make do with her new, shorter one. Twelfth: some ladies ask for recommendations during or after (or even before!) a meeting. Different guys may react to this in different ways; I don't actually know what net effect this has on the lady's reco thread. Okay, that's a dozen things, which is enough for now. Doubtless I've forgotten one or two (I'll probably think of another as soon as I post this). In the meantime... I hope that was at least somewhat helpful to those of you trying to navigate the maze of tantalizing options we have available, and I hope that it's given you something to consider when you come across a lady who tickles your fancy but seems not to have too many recommendations compared to some others.