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As many of you know, cancer continues to march along, treatments both here and Toronto have had a very small delaying effect and I should see the new year. However, I am grateful for: -being able to appreciate a really nice camel toe like the one on my young nurse from the last two weeks (I really wanted to drop something on the floor so I could get closer!!!! Just like in elementary school) -being able to appreciate her thong and tight uniform highlighting her C breasts and BIG nipples (how do I know they were a C, I asked, when you have cancer you can ask any stupid question! and she smiled when she answered!!!!) -the many of you who have offered support either publicly or thru pm, always appreciated and quite frankly sometimes very needed -the ability to laugh at myself when I do something stupid, like banging my head with the toilet seat last week when puking! I mean really, who does that and how stupid am I to grab onto the seat rather than the porcelain??!! -the ability to see humour, sometimes dark, like when on the way home from Toronto last Friday, pulled over to puke, standing in front of the car, bent over, OPP stops and comes up behind me, scares the shit out of me and I spray his boots as I turn around. OOPS! no harm no foul, just dirty boots. after giving me a lecture to not stand in front of the car, he started to laugh, and so did I -the ability to see the beauty, sexuality and sensuality of the many Ladies of CERB I have visited over the last couple of years, MP's and SP's alike. Many of whom I consider friends. And the many I have yet to visit, but speak to in the chat room, on private messages. Luv ya all! So not to be a downer, it is true that my tongue still works, my hands and fingers love massaging and my brain is ...... well I was never the sharpest knife in the drawer!!!! Have a good one folks. Enjoy ! And remember: get lots of SEX, it does the body good! The Liquor Tom

The spas know damn well that we guys aren't there to see each other, and are generally very good at making sure we don't run into each other in the hallway or anywhere else. I've only had it happen a couple of times at different places... and on both occasions that was passing a client on the way in as I was walking out the door, which they really can't do much to avoid. I've *never* spent any time hanging around the lobby, or seen anyone else doing so. So, yeah... Ottawa doesn't sound like Toronto :) I guess you might have to spend a little longer in the communal areas if you just show up and then want to know who's available, but I've always tended to look at the schedule, do some research in advance and then call ahead, even if it's just a "Hi, is X available in ten minutes' time?". I've never just shown up unannounced, even at the places that welcome walk-ins. That way you know that you'll see the person you want to see, and you have as little time as possible before you get into the room where you definitely won't see anyone else.

Probably because of the consent involved, or lack thereof. I'm sure we all spend plenty of time appreciating pics and vids of good-looking people in various states of undress and engaging in various activities, but in general these are all done with the consent of the people involved. Whether you're looking at paid models and actors, or the pics that ladies here post of themselves, you can be pretty sure that everything was made public with the full knowledge and consent of whoever you're looking at. Even if they may subsequently change their minds and discover that nothing posted online can ever really be erased, they were still OK with it being put up there in the first place. But that's not what's happened here. It seems that everything in this collection of material has been stolen without the consent of the people in the pictures, and includes stuff that they never intended anyone except a very small audience to see. To me, this seems more akin to revenge porn than to anything with any legitimacy. The fact that the people we're talking about are famous doesn't change that. Let's face it, the Internet already contains more legitimately-produced erotica than any one person could ever watch, and more gets added every day. I don't see the need to seek out stuff that was never meant to go public.

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So about a month ago I started thread about how people treat posters, and this is a classic example of someone asking a legitimate question and looking for some feedback, and mostly gets flak. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=189426 I sometimes wonder how much easier it might be just to pass or give the feedback sought. Guess not very...

to politely decline the request for an encounter, for whatever reason, please accept her decision politely. Please understand these decisions aren't made lightly and are the result of a number of considerations, often including but certainly not limited things such as... scheduling conflicts, personal reasons, communication styles, reference reports, posting style & history, a simple lack of chemistry... or a combination thereof. It's important to remember that a lady is balancing her requirement for income with her comfort level and her compatibility with suitors, and when the scale tips too far the wrong way, she is then faced with the delicate task of informing someone that they'd not be a good match. Interrogating a lady, insisting she provide reasons for her decision, & asking for reconsideration will rarely gain you ground, and will almost always result in a lady being very glad she made the aforementioned decision. It makes an already awkward situation even more unpleasant. Please know that a lady makes this decision carefully, and is considering your best interests as well as her own. Accept it graciously. Thank you :)

I'm writing this to let you all know that I have decided to make a gracious exit from the world of hobbying I have enjoyed for over fifteen years. I have met an incredible civilian woman and want to see where things go... it looks very promising! Another factor in my decision has also been the impending arrival of new laws governing the industry as a whole. When taken together, I feel this is the right time to step aside. That said, I will be keeping my account open and will continue to check in from time to time. The only difference is I will no longer be an active member in terms of seeing ladies and writing recommendations. I want to take this opportunity to thank everyone for the privilege of having been allowed to be a member of this fine caring, compassionate and upstanding community. I am leaving with a treasure trove of experiences and memories which I will always cherish. My decision leaves me with mixed emotions still, as Cerb is more than just a community... For me, it's more of an 'extended family' of sorts and I will miss the interaction and banter I have had with all of you, many of whom I consider friends. The future is uncertain by its very nature, and I may decide to return sooner rather than later. But for right now, I feel this is the right decision for me. Again, from the bottom of my heart - thank you, everyone! P.S. I will also be posting this message on another board which I am a member of.

It sounds like cerb might benefit from a sub forum for Health and safety questions. Then those threads would be in one place, and no one would have to search. I think it would actually be hard to search, as what would you use 'bj", "bbbj", 'b.b.bj" etc, a lot of ads would actually come up. http://smartsexresource.com/ Answers to what and why and how in the link, but if you want to ask people what and why and how, well there are 100 answers and all variations on the same two or three themes. And at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter what other people do or think about the topic, only what you do or think about the topic, after you check out the link so you know what you are actually thinking about.

damn I thought BJ was for the amazing Bianca Jaguar.

Oh please make it stop!!! Not this argument again. There are several threads discussing this, and some were quite heated. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=177360&highlight=bbbj+dangers Is one of them. There are as many opinions on this as their are people on the board. On this topic opinions are like assholes, we all have one and no two are the same. Please don't feed the troll.

Yes I did not word that properly at all! :whipping:

How when calling a company they ask you to type in your number to access your account and then when an agent finally answers his first question is 'Can I please have your phone number?'

Well said Steve. I can understand the desire to know "why" in these circumstances, as it is a form of rejection. (Our egos are more fragile than we big strong men let on at times.) If nothing else, I would want to avoid whatever behavior made her uncomfortable for future interactions with other sp's. Giving the person the reasons however, would likely lead to them getting defensive and trying to argue the points. I can see why it is best to stick with the "not a good fit" approach and leave it at that. Gents, accept it and move on. Arguing will likely only confirm her suspicions, not change them. I am surprised and sorry to hear how extreme the behaviors can be, and that it is getting worse not better. I assumed that we were moving into more respectful and understanding times. I guess cerb tends to shelter me from the less pleasant sides of the business. You ladies have my deepest respect. I know it is not always easy doing what you do.

Afternoon, without getting into mid slinging, I have never, repeat never had a problem with discretion at Paradise or Angels. At Paradise, since the renovations are now complete, there is a very discrete side door, and lots of parking at the side and back that cannot be seen when driving by on Richmond Road. In my opinion, the only challenge you will face will be which one of the stunning Ladies you will choose! Pm me if you want / need more info. Theliquor Tom

I'm available with Eva Lapearle if you like variety ;) me, mature fit Jaguar and Eva Young, ebony spinner :) Exquisite mix :D BJ

If a lady said she does not want to see me, I wouldn't be angry. I would just move on. Getting possessive and clingy in this lifestyle is not a healthy thing...leads to jealousy, and maybe worse behaviours. Guys who see a lady and choose not to see her again wouldn't appreciate if that lady continually contacted him about second, third...well you get the idea, encounters. Same holds true here, ladies don't appreciate unwanted continual contacts with a man they don't want to see And who would really want an encounter with a lady who doesn't want to see him. Sounds unpleasant for everyone, and a date the lady rightfully so, would dread A rambling RG

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http://www.dailylife.com.au/news-and-views/dl-opinion/this-is-why-you-shouldnt-click-on-the-naked-photos-of-jennifer-lawrence-20140901-3eo6s.html I will leave this really good article here

Maybe three's a crowd!!! ;-)

I think the OP's original request/suggestion is not to 'wait til tomorrow' but to simply move on.

I couldn't agree more. We seem to have an ever growing issue in today's world of accepting the word "no". People assume that they flash money and everybody should be at their beck and call. This business is like many other service businesses out there. Just because we advertise a service doesn't mean everyone gets to have us at a moments notice. And there are certain times when a potential client just doesn't "feel" right. I get it in the business I am in too. I talk to someone about doing their plumbing job and get a feeling that they will be the type that I have to chase payment for or the job is just too much trouble and not worth the ensuing headaches. They, however, act like 3 year olds who can't have candy while in WalMart with mommy. Back to you ladies, you have every right to refuse service to anyone for whatever reason you want. Guys need to understand that and move on. And no, you do not need to provide your reasoning. The only thing I would want in that situation if Iwas being refused is courtesy of a speedy reply and a politely worded refusal. Nothing more.

Had a chance to meet MsManda this past weekend, I had seen all the compliments in Nova Scotia and figured NB would be simlrar. The boys in Nova Scotia have a gem and should treat her well. A bit of the girl next door with a twist, treats you well and she has fun doing it. MsManda is easy to talk to and has a beautiful smile to go with the all the pictures. Hopefully she decides to come back to NB sometime soon.

I made a last minute booking with Daphnee last night after having some plans fall through. I was thinking she was not what I was looking for but I would give here a try ... and I am really glad that I did. She is a very cute petite woman with the most loveable french accent. The room was dimly lit with candles and music playing softly. I was asked to take a quick shower which I like because it usually means she is freshly showered as well. She is a dancer and this was the first time I have been with a dancer and I have to say it was a great ice breaker and I really enjoyed it. I think what I liked most about the whole experience is how natural she made the whole encounter seem and that she genuinely seemed to be into it and enjoying our time together. I will definitely pay her a visit the next time she is in town!

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Well I would hope that I can't be seen going into Paradise from Richmond considering it's on Robertson and Richmond ends at Baseline. Sorry couldn't resist.

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I'm def a no show'er, but at least it grows not too bad lol Great thread :) glad I'm not the only one haha

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Wow,what a nasty thread! This is the first time is see this type of behaviour on CERB. The poor man asked a simple question. A simple friendly reference to another thread should have sufficed. In fact, I'm glad the question was raised, I was wondering the same thing but didn't think of doing a search,

A guy with a really freaky foot!

I have to agree with the first reviewer - I would love to keep this one all to myself. ***Full disclosure my poorly-chosen screen name is not meant to imply that Freddigirl or any girl I see offers those services*** Let me say right out of the gate that none of the pictures I've seen do her justice - Freddigirl is drop dead gorgeous in person - she has a great smile and a bubbling and genuine personality that only augment her looks. I wasn't sure what to expect when I arrived, and I was floored when she met me at the door in an incredibly complimentary sun dress. Location was easy to find, and her place was very well-maintained, clean, and comfortable. She was very welcoming, put me at ease, and frankly has the skills to make your toes curl. I will absolutely be seeing her as often as I'm able, because she made my weekend.

Got a call from work (well former work today) from a former co-worker. She told me there is a retirement recognition program that the Public Service has. I get a couple certificates, one from the department I worked for, one from the Public Service and a gift from a selection of gifts...all the gifts useless to me. After seeing the gifts I wish I was just forgotten and not recognized LOL...oh wait, I think I am, still waiting for my first pension cheque, what I really need RG

I offer this service. However, I am in Ottawa. I notice that you are in Toronto.

That kind of text seems to be a common theme. Seriously, I can almost feel the frustration that you ladies must have at this utter nonsense. Would it honestly kill a person to say hello? And, to be frank, if that was the initial contact, it is just wrong. Never have I asked for a ladies address or location until after booking, confirmation and right before the encounter. Part of the problem, imo, is this whole "text speak" thing we have going on in the world today. It seems that many people are completely unable to put together a coherent sentence structure. Hell, most of the time they can't even finish a word correctly. Our language is being flushed down the digital toilet.

Spent time with a special lady and she would play Barry Whyte. Sure could set the mood.

A few years back I did see one of my regular SP's on my birthday. And I did get a little surprise present waiting for me when I got there (nothing service related though). Just something she'd gone out of her way to get for me which touched me. During our session she did fulfill a particular fantasy of mine but she would have done that anyway. My Bday had nothing to do with it. Here's the thing though. When booking I never mentioned it was my birthday nor did I ask for any special treatment. She knew it was my birthday because there was one of those "Happy Bday Castle" threads started that day here on cerb....so a couple hours before our appointment she went out and got a little something for me. Personally, and these are just my feelings, no judgments here, but as an adult I would feel very uncomfortable, asking for, or expecting any kind of special treatment on my Bday, I stopped doing that when I was about 12 lol. I wouldn't ask that from anyone from family, friends, or coworkers, let alone SP's. Posted via Mobile Device

Starting off a client/SP relationship by arguing is pretty stupid. A session is going to be way better if the lady is ready and willing than if whe is feeling pressured and uncomfortable. Seriously guys if she says no just wait til tomorrow or whenever. It's in your best interest!

I'm quite comfortable going commando in a long skirt, but I've had too many mishaps with the wind and short flow-y skirts...perhaps a short tight skirt with nothing underneath would be fun to try

Joy Smith is a powerful and influential MP, do not underestimate her. She says things like "The Criminal Intelligence Service Canada estimates a single Canadian victim of sex trafficking is worth approximately $280,000 per year to her pimp. This is big money, and our youth are their targets." People read that and think every SP is making $280k for a pimp. Speaking on bill C36 "This is a blow to the many brothels masquerading as massage parlours that saturate our communities" Parlours are in big trouble. Smith is very good at painting a black and white picture: ALL prostitutes are victims, ALL customers are exploiting them.

I was just listening to a French Radio Canada interviews on FM and they asked a cop about the part of the bill about criminalizing clients and he said it would be very difficult to apply, if it becomes law. Basically they can't have a police officer with each SP, 24 hrs a day, to hear and see everything they do!

Those politicians are hypocrites. No one uses escort services more than them and now they want to fight against prostitution....

Wow. I could write pages, but most of what I would say has already appeared in this thread -- Phaedrus in particular has largely voiced my own impressions. I am really surprised that the bill is so blatantly puritanical and willfully ignorant of the facts on the ground. I think our government is just naturally regressive on social issues and especially sexual issues, but I didn't think they'd take a position that's so empty-headed and counter to the bigger social tide. ("Perverts"? Really? Fuck.) Maybe the prospect of an election tipped the balance -- this will certainly play well to their base. I have no idea what happens next, but I can imagine the thing passing into law as-is, then immediately being challenged. Then a long dark period of several years until that case winds its way through the various courts. Guess we'll see. Berlin: thanks for asking clients to speak up on this issue without necessarily "outing" ourselves. I'd started to do that, but now I'm going to take it more seriously. I can probably do that with less risk than some others (I'm unmarried, for one), so it's a bit easier for me to undertake. But yeah, given the real-world impact of public ignorance that this bill seems to represent, I think it's time for me to shift over to a more consistent life rather than a fractured one, and to speak up more on a subject that's important to me. My part may be small, but I'm going to play it -- smartly. Hugs to all. (Or handshakes and manly backslaps if that's better for you.)

Phaedrus, I have a lot of respect for your opinion/analysis and how you present it. I also don't want to be perceived as anti-Bedford, because that's not at all the case. I just don't think we live in a world where Bedford could produce the result we were hoping for. And I think that's largely our own fault. What strikes me is the delusions we seem to be living under. Take a look at this community. There are rules that govern our conduct, not the least of which is the rule against discussing illegal activity. To begin with, that rule is largely ignored. The bulk of discussion here is about sex: SOG, COF, Greek, GFE/PSE, and a plethora of much more graphic language that, I've pointed out elsewhere, seems to be proliferated recently. This accepted because, as I've seen the Mod indicate, the running assumption is these activities are conducted legally at an outcall location. Except that's a thin assumption, given that people just as readily talk about their INcall locations as they do the services on offer. What will happen when the exchange of money for those services will be criminal? Will this community die because ALL discussion will be, de facto, discussion of illegal activity? Abolitionists can do what they do because the research and literature is skewed in their favour. I'm sure some of you will argue this point, but consider: there is almost no representation in research literature for what is termed "hidden populations," meaning indoor sex work. There is even less research on client-side factors; motivation, demographics, profile, etc. Almost everything that can be read focuses on street prostitution, which we will ALL agree is very different, and much easier to stigmatize. Simply, you can't have a voice if you don't speak. I joined this community in large part because I wanted to write about it, and the first place to start was to immerse myself in it to understand it. I would still love to write about it. But, that requires brave individuals who are willing to share their stories and talk about themselves, under the promise of anonymity, so that a picture can be painted that is currently, dangerously, lacking. If any SPs, MAs or clients are willing to do this, PM me. I'm willing to bet my point will be proven and I won't hear from any of you. Until the culture around us changes to be more accepting of sex for money, bills like yesterday will always have a receptive audience. The general public just doesn't care enough, and certainly doesn't know enough, to know just how wrong that bill is. It's up to us to change that. You know where to find me!

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It's obviously important to practice good hygiene when you are going to be intimate with someone, and it's unfortunate that this has to be a topic of discussion. It also makes me wonder what these people are like in their day to day lives. I don't ever recall my parents telling me hygiene wasn't important...unless of course you're going to have sex! I was raised to practice good hygiene EVERYDAY. Is it really too much to ask?

Of course, if you find that a lot of the wonderful ladies in this industry are turning you own, then it might be about you after all... But really, harassing someone for an explanation isn't going to get her to change her mind. And if you push it too far it may get you on a more widespread list of people to be avoided, rather than just hers...