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10 pointsAs many of you know, cancer continues to march along, treatments both here and Toronto have had a very small delaying effect and I should see the new year. However, I am grateful for: -being able to appreciate a really nice camel toe like the one on my young nurse from the last two weeks (I really wanted to drop something on the floor so I could get closer!!!! Just like in elementary school) -being able to appreciate her thong and tight uniform highlighting her C breasts and BIG nipples (how do I know they were a C, I asked, when you have cancer you can ask any stupid question! and she smiled when she answered!!!!) -the many of you who have offered support either publicly or thru pm, always appreciated and quite frankly sometimes very needed -the ability to laugh at myself when I do something stupid, like banging my head with the toilet seat last week when puking! I mean really, who does that and how stupid am I to grab onto the seat rather than the porcelain??!! -the ability to see humour, sometimes dark, like when on the way home from Toronto last Friday, pulled over to puke, standing in front of the car, bent over, OPP stops and comes up behind me, scares the shit out of me and I spray his boots as I turn around. OOPS! no harm no foul, just dirty boots. after giving me a lecture to not stand in front of the car, he started to laugh, and so did I -the ability to see the beauty, sexuality and sensuality of the many Ladies of CERB I have visited over the last couple of years, MP's and SP's alike. Many of whom I consider friends. And the many I have yet to visit, but speak to in the chat room, on private messages. Luv ya all! So not to be a downer, it is true that my tongue still works, my hands and fingers love massaging and my brain is ...... well I was never the sharpest knife in the drawer!!!! Have a good one folks. Enjoy ! And remember: get lots of SEX, it does the body good! The Liquor Tom
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5 pointsThe spas know damn well that we guys aren't there to see each other, and are generally very good at making sure we don't run into each other in the hallway or anywhere else. I've only had it happen a couple of times at different places... and on both occasions that was passing a client on the way in as I was walking out the door, which they really can't do much to avoid. I've *never* spent any time hanging around the lobby, or seen anyone else doing so. So, yeah... Ottawa doesn't sound like Toronto :) I guess you might have to spend a little longer in the communal areas if you just show up and then want to know who's available, but I've always tended to look at the schedule, do some research in advance and then call ahead, even if it's just a "Hi, is X available in ten minutes' time?". I've never just shown up unannounced, even at the places that welcome walk-ins. That way you know that you'll see the person you want to see, and you have as little time as possible before you get into the room where you definitely won't see anyone else.
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5 pointsProbably because of the consent involved, or lack thereof. I'm sure we all spend plenty of time appreciating pics and vids of good-looking people in various states of undress and engaging in various activities, but in general these are all done with the consent of the people involved. Whether you're looking at paid models and actors, or the pics that ladies here post of themselves, you can be pretty sure that everything was made public with the full knowledge and consent of whoever you're looking at. Even if they may subsequently change their minds and discover that nothing posted online can ever really be erased, they were still OK with it being put up there in the first place. But that's not what's happened here. It seems that everything in this collection of material has been stolen without the consent of the people in the pictures, and includes stuff that they never intended anyone except a very small audience to see. To me, this seems more akin to revenge porn than to anything with any legitimacy. The fact that the people we're talking about are famous doesn't change that. Let's face it, the Internet already contains more legitimately-produced erotica than any one person could ever watch, and more gets added every day. I don't see the need to seek out stuff that was never meant to go public.
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5 pointsGreetings Gentleman, Are you seeking a fun and sexy escapade that is sure to take you to new heights in absolute mind and body relaxation? I'm the picture of femininity, but with the skill to relieve your muscular tension and pave the way to complete mind and body euphoria. I offer longer engagements to allow us to fully relax from my comfortable and secure retreat in the west end, that will make you feel most welcomed. My schedule this week. Wed- Friday: 10:00am-3pm. My recommendations: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthr...t=sensual+erin Please feel free to introduce yourself by pm or email to [email protected]. to learn more about me. I look forward to hearing from you! Yours, Erin xoxo
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4 pointsSo about a month ago I started thread about how people treat posters, and this is a classic example of someone asking a legitimate question and looking for some feedback, and mostly gets flak. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=189426 I sometimes wonder how much easier it might be just to pass or give the feedback sought. Guess not very...
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3 pointsto politely decline the request for an encounter, for whatever reason, please accept her decision politely. Please understand these decisions aren't made lightly and are the result of a number of considerations, often including but certainly not limited things such as... scheduling conflicts, personal reasons, communication styles, reference reports, posting style & history, a simple lack of chemistry... or a combination thereof. It's important to remember that a lady is balancing her requirement for income with her comfort level and her compatibility with suitors, and when the scale tips too far the wrong way, she is then faced with the delicate task of informing someone that they'd not be a good match. Interrogating a lady, insisting she provide reasons for her decision, & asking for reconsideration will rarely gain you ground, and will almost always result in a lady being very glad she made the aforementioned decision. It makes an already awkward situation even more unpleasant. Please know that a lady makes this decision carefully, and is considering your best interests as well as her own. Accept it graciously. Thank you :)
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3 pointsI'm writing this to let you all know that I have decided to make a gracious exit from the world of hobbying I have enjoyed for over fifteen years. I have met an incredible civilian woman and want to see where things go... it looks very promising! Another factor in my decision has also been the impending arrival of new laws governing the industry as a whole. When taken together, I feel this is the right time to step aside. That said, I will be keeping my account open and will continue to check in from time to time. The only difference is I will no longer be an active member in terms of seeing ladies and writing recommendations. I want to take this opportunity to thank everyone for the privilege of having been allowed to be a member of this fine caring, compassionate and upstanding community. I am leaving with a treasure trove of experiences and memories which I will always cherish. My decision leaves me with mixed emotions still, as Cerb is more than just a community... For me, it's more of an 'extended family' of sorts and I will miss the interaction and banter I have had with all of you, many of whom I consider friends. The future is uncertain by its very nature, and I may decide to return sooner rather than later. But for right now, I feel this is the right decision for me. Again, from the bottom of my heart - thank you, everyone! P.S. I will also be posting this message on another board which I am a member of.
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3 pointsIt sounds like cerb might benefit from a sub forum for Health and safety questions. Then those threads would be in one place, and no one would have to search. I think it would actually be hard to search, as what would you use 'bj", "bbbj", 'b.b.bj" etc, a lot of ads would actually come up. http://smartsexresource.com/ Answers to what and why and how in the link, but if you want to ask people what and why and how, well there are 100 answers and all variations on the same two or three themes. And at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter what other people do or think about the topic, only what you do or think about the topic, after you check out the link so you know what you are actually thinking about.
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3 pointsOh please make it stop!!! Not this argument again. There are several threads discussing this, and some were quite heated. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=177360&highlight=bbbj+dangers Is one of them. There are as many opinions on this as their are people on the board. On this topic opinions are like assholes, we all have one and no two are the same. Please don't feed the troll.
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3 pointsHow when calling a company they ask you to type in your number to access your account and then when an agent finally answers his first question is 'Can I please have your phone number?'
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2 pointsWell said Steve. I can understand the desire to know "why" in these circumstances, as it is a form of rejection. (Our egos are more fragile than we big strong men let on at times.) If nothing else, I would want to avoid whatever behavior made her uncomfortable for future interactions with other sp's. Giving the person the reasons however, would likely lead to them getting defensive and trying to argue the points. I can see why it is best to stick with the "not a good fit" approach and leave it at that. Gents, accept it and move on. Arguing will likely only confirm her suspicions, not change them. I am surprised and sorry to hear how extreme the behaviors can be, and that it is getting worse not better. I assumed that we were moving into more respectful and understanding times. I guess cerb tends to shelter me from the less pleasant sides of the business. You ladies have my deepest respect. I know it is not always easy doing what you do.
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2 pointsAfternoon, without getting into mid slinging, I have never, repeat never had a problem with discretion at Paradise or Angels. At Paradise, since the renovations are now complete, there is a very discrete side door, and lots of parking at the side and back that cannot be seen when driving by on Richmond Road. In my opinion, the only challenge you will face will be which one of the stunning Ladies you will choose! Pm me if you want / need more info. Theliquor Tom
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2 pointsI'm available with Eva Lapearle if you like variety ;) me, mature fit Jaguar and Eva Young, ebony spinner :) Exquisite mix :D BJ
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2 pointsIf a lady said she does not want to see me, I wouldn't be angry. I would just move on. Getting possessive and clingy in this lifestyle is not a healthy thing...leads to jealousy, and maybe worse behaviours. Guys who see a lady and choose not to see her again wouldn't appreciate if that lady continually contacted him about second, third...well you get the idea, encounters. Same holds true here, ladies don't appreciate unwanted continual contacts with a man they don't want to see And who would really want an encounter with a lady who doesn't want to see him. Sounds unpleasant for everyone, and a date the lady rightfully so, would dread A rambling RG
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2 pointsEnigma-Mea Culpa, Enya- Only time, The Cranberries- Linger, I'm a rocker so there is a bit of rock and roll when I make love to a beautiful woman. Guns N' Roses- November rain, Led Zeppelin- Stairway to heaven, http://youtu.be/w9TGj2jrJk8 Def Leppard- Love bites, http://youtu.be/0T1IVyXBGjM
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2 pointshttp://www.dailylife.com.au/news-and-views/dl-opinion/this-is-why-you-shouldnt-click-on-the-naked-photos-of-jennifer-lawrence-20140901-3eo6s.html I will leave this really good article here
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2 pointsI think the OP's original request/suggestion is not to 'wait til tomorrow' but to simply move on.
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2 pointsI couldn't agree more. We seem to have an ever growing issue in today's world of accepting the word "no". People assume that they flash money and everybody should be at their beck and call. This business is like many other service businesses out there. Just because we advertise a service doesn't mean everyone gets to have us at a moments notice. And there are certain times when a potential client just doesn't "feel" right. I get it in the business I am in too. I talk to someone about doing their plumbing job and get a feeling that they will be the type that I have to chase payment for or the job is just too much trouble and not worth the ensuing headaches. They, however, act like 3 year olds who can't have candy while in WalMart with mommy. Back to you ladies, you have every right to refuse service to anyone for whatever reason you want. Guys need to understand that and move on. And no, you do not need to provide your reasoning. The only thing I would want in that situation if Iwas being refused is courtesy of a speedy reply and a politely worded refusal. Nothing more.
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1 pointHe isn't interested in research. Read the first line of his post (copied/pasted) I'm sure many of you have read about the possibility of getting various social diseases by participating in BBBJ. I know that I have also. It hasn't stopped me yet, but I do worry. It sounds like he knows the risks, he's read about them (his words) But his thread seems more about how others handle the risks and worries I just find it strange, to be so worried as he claims to be, about bbbj, yet still continue to practice it. If this lifestyle or a certain activity in this lifestyle worried me, it's simple, just stop. Don't carry on while claiming to be worried Not sure if he is a troll or looking for input. I just find it strange he partakes in something that worries him RG
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1 pointI was on one Government course, got the certificate, suitable for framing until I saw it Just my first name and first letter of my last name Sort of like Roaming G. But then again, when I was in the Canadian Forces my identity disc (dog tag) had me down as RC (Roman Catholic) when I was officially United Church. And after my tour in Germany with 3RCR was given a certificate, Served Pro Patria...only my rank was wrong and they spelled my name wrong Anyhow... RG
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1 pointStrange times we live in , people hiding behind anonymity trying to discredit others into the spotlight. Being a conservative and somewhat involved, I can say that there are less antis then you can imagine, it is more of a push by certain fringe groups trying to establish a legitimate power base. Please do not forget that it was the courts who killed previous law. We need to shed light on the topic , expose the wrong doers and bring it to media . Surveys do show that Canadians are not in favor of such a stupid law, nor are we
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1 pointFirstly, I'm sorry you're having to deal with this. It would be wonderful if everyone just minded their own business and left others to their own devices. If she has an issue, it should be taken up directly with you not aired publicly. Having said that, I wold hope that most gentlemen would see through this and realize that when someone feels the need to step up and air dirt publicly and vehemently, that perhaps the person they should be avoiding is the one who is most negative and vocal. You are a stable and known provider. You have established yourself and what you provide. Is this world, sometimes it's a blessing for those who believe the rumors to not come around. I believe those who are serious will not be deterred. If this situation has blown up and libel is involved, you may want to think about legal action, even a small step. This is a time for us to protect ourselves and our clients and to band together. Good luck to you and I wish you every success on your local tour.
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1 pointSocials usually start at around 7 pm and keep going until there isn't anyone left (usually 11pm to midnight depending on the night).
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1 pointI don't offer birthday specials but once I have established regulars and they tell me it's their birthday, I will do something nice for them within our session. I think this is only appropriate if you know the person. How is an SP going to know it's someone's birthday? Are they going to show her their driver's license? I'm thinking probably not. Many people ask for discounts.. I'm a student.. okay, good for you but I charge equally to all my clients. A lot of entitlement these days imo. I hate to poo poo this idea and ruin the fantasy but this is our job and how we make our living. I've noticed lately that a lot of guys calling are expecting way less for than what we offer. We also have bills to pay. Would clients go to work for less than they want to be paid for? I highly doubt it. If I gave everyone a discount for whatever reason, I wouldn't be able to pay my bills.
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1 pointMy rule of thumb is, if she advertises exclusively on BP, avoid her. If she advertises on BP and also a reputable source such as CERB, EC and/or P**B, then she's probably OK and may warrant my attention.
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1 pointHey Everyone.. Im Sky.. Im new to CERB But from what I see it has some great goodies & lots of discussions and advice.. heard lots about it and now I can experience the real thing :)
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1 pointI see many comments on posts that come across like the person posting was a buffoon, as if all the rules and common sense are straight-forward, and no one could possibly have posted something/somewhere what they did. Recently there was a recommendation on a lady from Ottawa, but the poster saw her in another city. He posted both in the city he saw her, and her home city. People jumped on and question the poster why he did that....really... think about it.. and not just in this case. If the lady works out of a home city, why wouldn't the home city people want to see a recommendation too, why does it have to be in the city that the person was seen. I think it is perfectly acceptable what was done. My question is why do people feel that they should jump on things like that and come across as extremely critical? It isn't even consistent with the principals of the board of, if you haven't got something nice to say, don't say it at all. What is everyone's views? I don't think these types of responses are very helpful for anyone.
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1 pointI must confess to a bit of confusion with regards to this contribution to the discourse.
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1 pointUPDATE: I'm delighted to announce that my article regarding Bill C-36 has now been published on an independent media site. You can find the link here: http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/views-expressed/2014/07/real-exploitation-sex-industry-its-distortion
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1 pointThe following Bloc members did not vote: André Bellavance Louis Plamondon The following Conservative members did not vote: John Baird Dean Allison Leona Aglukkaq Garry Breitkreuz Rod Bruinooge John Carmichael Tony Clement Barry Devolin Peter Kent Mike Lake Ryan Leef Andrew Scheer Bruce Stanton Maurice Vellacott The following Green Party members did not vote: Bruce Hyer The following Independent members did not vote: Brent Rathgeber The following Liberal members did not vote: Carolyn Bennett Gerry Byrne Irwin Cotler Judy Foote Chrystia Freeland Hedy Fry Ted Hsu Yvonne Jones Dominic LeBlanc John McCallum John McKay Massimo Pacetti Geoff Regan Judy Sgro Justin Trudeau The following NDP members did not vote: Malcolm Allen Charlie Angus Paulina Ayala Dennis Bevington Alexandre Boulerice Andrew Cash Chris Charlton David Christopherson Ryan Cleary Joe Comartin Don Davies Libby Davies Matthew Dubé Pierre-Luc Dusseault Claude Gravelle Dan Harris Sana Hassainia Carol Hughes Matthew Kellway Alexandrine Latendresse Megan Leslie Brian Masse Marc-André Morin Peggy Nash Jamie Nicholls Manon Perreault John Rafferty Jasbir Sandhu Craig Scott Peter Stoffer Mike Sullivan Glenn Thibeault Jonathan Tremblay The above list of people are the ones we need focus on to get them to vote NO to Bill C-36.
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1 pointto me its simple - gay rights are human rights and society has embraced it even though we dont all agree or see eye to eye. as a society we have embraced pro-choice views on abortion, though we all dont agree or see eye to eye we see an inherit right of the woman who is pregnant to choose. Sex workers rights are human rights to and the same societal and government policies and views that support gay rights and pro choice should be the basis for this issue.
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1 pointThat bolded bit is exactly the kind of thinking that keeps this movement from getting anywhere. If clients actually spoke up, as a group, and said, we are not perverts--the sheer numbers of you would send a very strong message. And please don't take this the wrong way, but sex workers have a lot more to lose than you do--like our lives.
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1 pointSo... reading stuff in this thread, and elsewhere on the interwebs, I've realized that there's another very important point that needs to be made. Yes, today's bill is a slap in the face, a kick in the balls, a punch to the gut, call it what you will. Not unexpected, perhaps... but it hurts, nevertheless. People are saying that the SCC decision in the Bedford case was a Pyrrhic victory; that the Bedford case was a mistake because it has just provoked the government into proposing more draconian legislation. These people are wrong. I'll say that again, because it's important: THESE PEOPLE ARE WRONG. It is never wrong to fight injustice. It is never wrong to fight for a fair deal for those marginalized by society (both sex workers and their clients, in this context). It is never wrong to fight to help those who are vulnerable to exploitation. It is never wrong to fight to give people a better chance at life. The Bedford case was launched many years ago; while it was obvious that it would take a long time for a final verdict, there was no way to predict which party would be in power by the time it was resolved. We've had at least two general elections since it was launched; it's not the fault of anyone who fought and won that battle that the rest of us left Harper et al in power for all that time. And so, yes... now we have a backlash. This is not unexpected. But was it ever reasonable to expect that the path to enlightenment would be free of potholes? That nobody would throw roadblocks in our way? That we could win the war without ever losing a battle or suffering a setback? There's a long way to go. We've seen the government's opening salvo; now it's up to us to return fire. And some version of this bill, be it more or less bad, will probably become law in the not-too-distant future... and that'll be the end of another battle, which we'll have fought on fundamentally unfavourable ground. But after that, there will be legal challenges, and the campaign will once again move to the courts. And once in the courts, the fight will be different. There will be a level playing-field. Each side will have to back up their rhetoric with evidence. Logic will matter. Reality will matter. What can be proven will count. Unverifiable dogma will be dispensed with. And the prohibitionists will do just as well as they did last time around. We'll win. Again. And perhaps by then we'll have a sensible government, or at least one that cares more about the well-being of Canadians than their religious fanatics. Or perhaps the SCC will take the decision from their hands. Who knows? In any event, we're on the right side of history, and we'll get there in the end.
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1 pointSeriously, now, did anybody really *not* see this coming as soon as the ruling in Bedford came down? Did anybody *really* expect a brighter, better world for all? I am fully supportive of the notion that the laws that existed were bad for women in the industry. I fully support the idea that those laws need to change, and not in the way they did today. But, I also know we live in a world where that notion will likely never be realized. They can't do this? Harper has a majority. He can do whatever the hell he wants. Negotiation? Under threat of what? It'll never pass muster with an SCC challenge? Great, so we'll live with this bullshit for 10 years, then see this cycle repeated all ocer again. Polls show overwhelmingly that Canadians reject these proposals? Be *very* wary of polls. They often tell you a lot less than they claim to. The reality is this won't change anything today, or tomorrow, but it will become law and change things for some time. I figure that MPs/spas will be the most visibly affected, with indoor indies flying further under the radar, but that's just an opinion. Either way, I don't feel that Bedford won anyone a whole lot when the laws that are put in place because of Bedford are even worse than those that were struck down. I'm ashamed to be Canadian today. But, then, I have ever since we elected that fat bastard into office in the first place.
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1 pointOMG stop with the fear mongering!!! Seriously... Independents can advertise for their own sexual services without prosecution. Sheesh!!!!
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1 pointA few initial thoughts on this. Full disclosure: I've read Pivot's analysis of it, but not the bill itself (I've scanned the bill, and it's basically impossible to follow unless you're already familiar with existing legislation). Anyway... ...yes, it's bad, but I see no reason to panic. The sky is not falling, despite the government's wish to drop it on us. As Gia noted, this is not a final bill; it's an opening bid in a political process. Some provisions in there will be things the government really wants to make happen, but some will be stuff that's there purely to be negotiated away so that the government can claim they're being reasonable. Yes, the government has a majority... but negotiations will still take place and compromises will happen. An aside: given the government's current relations with the SCC, I can't help but wonder how much of this is less about sex work than Harper just wanting to deliver a solid "Fuck you" to the court. Obviously sex workers and their clients are just collateral damage here... On communication: it still talks about "any place", and the Internet (including email) is still not a "place". On advertizing: does the law prevent the hosting of ads, or just the placing of them? The former is completely unenforceable; contrary to what some others have said in this thread, anything outside of Canada is beyond the jurisdiction of Canadian courts, as are any servers physically located in another country and run by a non-Canadian company. So, to pick three more enlightened countries at random: if we set up cerb.de, hosted on servers in New Zealand by an Australian company, the courts here are powerless. And for those who disagree with me on that... think for a moment about Wikileaks. Think about Edward Snowden and Glenn Greenwald, and what they've published between them. Think about the stuff they've put online, and how much it has pissed off the most powerful and technologically advanced nation in the world... and on a subject far more important to The Powers That Be than sex work could ever become. Can they stop it? Can they shut those people down? Of course not, or they would have already done so. Given that, do you really think the Canadian government will be able to kill a board like this if it's hosted abroad, even if they were foolish enough to try? Now, if the placing of an ad is a crime... well, that's enforceable. But will LE have the resources and inclination to actually enforce it? Maybe, but that depends on the LE in question. And that only applies if ads stay the way they are today... if advertizing sexual services is illegal, then we simply do what's already common in the US: "Money exchanged is for time and companionship only (nudge, wink)." Problem solved: no sex advertized, no law broken. On the idea that this bill could kill the industry in Canada: well, I'm sure the government would love that to happen. But, really... look south. Even if this bill passed as written, the legal environment for sex work would still be less oppressive than that which exists in most of the US. Tell me, doom-mongers, are there no sex workers in the US? Are there no clients? And, bearing in mind the answers to those two questions, do you honestly think the industry will die here? It's called the Oldest Profession for a reason, and it's survived worse than this. Now, that's not to say there will be no effect at all. We may end up with a more US-like situation where providers have to be more careful about screening clients, and clients will have to be more careful about which ads they respond to, and newcomers on both sides of the fence will probably find it harder to get established. Some clients and providers may well be scared out of the industry, and it may decline in size as a result. But it will continue; I have no doubt about that. My gut feeling is that enforcement of whatever finally becomes law will, as today, be mostly aimed at street workers and their clients. Let's face it, this is about politics, and what drives politics is public opinion... and what drives public opinion is what the public sees. The man in the street probably doesn't know that the nice lady in the apartment upstairs is a sex worker, and therefore he won't complain to either LE or his MP about her; he's going to complain about the lady in the short skirt on a street corner, never mind the fact that she's just a random person meeting a friend for a night out and not a sex worker at all. Finally: as many have noted, this is all obviously going to be struck down by the SCC on the same grounds as last time, provided we can get plaintiffs for a test-case (or maybe two; it strikes me you'd need one case for the laws aimed at clients, and one for the laws aimed at providers). Sure, most people won't want the publicity... but it only needs one or two courageous and determined individuals. And a decade.
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1 pointI was fortunate enough to see MsManda during her Late May-Early June tour of New-Brunswick. My experience is as follows: In setting up the appointment I found that she was very good at communicating, responding promptly within a reasonable amount of time. She was also very good about the HUGE number of questions and requests I had, and a special note to how accommodating she was to my requests. She even kept me up to date on a clothing request that I made that she wasn't sure that she could exactly fulfill. Another important note is that she makes it very clear that she will not judge you regardless of your requests. Her ultimate goal is to make sure that you're satisfied and she will do everything within her comfort zone (which is pretty big honestly) to make sure that you leave satisfied. And for her I honestly believe that it goes beyond making sure you have a SOG, she clearly understands that there's more to an encounter than just the orgasm. Sometimes you'll see someone advertise "open-minded" or something similar and you're disappointed when you finally meet, but with MsManda, there is no such disappointment. So after a number of emails back and forth we set something up for her trip and so all that was left to do was wait. Now, her pre-meeting process is a little different than what I'm used to, relying more on emails than phone, but none the less, its pretty much what your average hobbyist should be used to by now. I get up to the room and knock on the door. There was practically no awkward wait, she was quick to answer the door, which was greatly appreciated. As the door opened and I walked in I was very pleased with what I saw. Of course I knew what her body looked like before hand, but her face is very pretty, I just love the fullness of her lips and her long soft silky hair. She was wearing what we had discussed (not exactly what I wanted, but I knew that going in), once we had our fun with that and she was undressed the thing that struck me the most was how soft her skin was. As a general rule most of the girls I'll see have soft skin, but this was a level beyond that. Truly a joy to hold her and caress her. I went with the PSE option and I can assure you, it was intense. I'm in decent enough shape and was dripping sweat by the end. When MsManda describes her sessions as a difference in attitude, I can definitely believe it. I don't have a frame of reference for her other session types, but she was wild and uninhibited and more than happy to show off some of her own moves ;). The energy that she exudes in a PSE session is powerful, she was so convincing that I'm not sure that she wanted to let me leave at the end :). If I had one complaint it would be rather weak, but it would be this: there was no DFK. However, this was mitigated by the following two factors. She was very upfront with me that she did not usually DFK, she told me so in emails well before our encounter. And the LFK was so frequent and passionate that after a few minutes I almost forgot about DFK. So in the end, proper communication really helped turn what could have been a negative into a point of no concern. Ultimately I would definitely recommend that anyone interested in meeting MsManda do so without reservation. But do yourself, and her, a favor and be totally honest and upfront about what you're looking for in a session. It will help her please you and you'll enjoy the time so much more. Edit: Adding in CERB user page and webpage. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=75468 http://msmanda.com/
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1 pointGreat thread, Gabriella. I've had a lot of these, lately, for some reason. I'm not sure why. My reasons for declining the opportunity to entertain someone are personal, they're about me, not necessarily about him. Something doesn't feel right to me. It could be my mood when I read the e-mail. It could be that the fellow reminds me of someone I don't want to remember. It could be that I find communicating with him more difficult or complicated than I'm able to manage at the time. I've had about ten inquiries in the last 4-6 weeks from men who have demanded assurance I'm disease-free. Many of them have replied with thinly veiled hostility to my responses. I'm irritated by this and so I won't give these inquiries a second glance for quite awhile. Lately, I've had more contact with long-time, regular clients than I've had all summer which, frankly, makes me feel somewhat less interested in new clients. Returning clients always have a higher priority for me. I am sure that I turn away men who would be wonderful clients, who would enjoy me and whom I would be pleased to have encountered. My own moods and nit-picking tendencies are aspects of my personality that I accept. I won't be cajoled, bullied, begged, manipulated or threatened into accepting a client I don't want to see. I wouldn't enjoy the engagement and if I don't enjoy it, he can be certain that he won't, either. There are many wonderful ladies in this industry. If one of us turns you down, accept that's just her, it's not about you, and move on.
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