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Everybody has a different tolerance when it comes to risk level(s)... Snowballing is the same thing as BBBJ with CIM, swallow or not, transfer or not and it is allowed to be openly discussed on the board. We are not talking about BBFS here. And to the OP, I apologize for not being able to help you out with suggestions. Good luck in your search!

We as providers and hobbyist are under scrutiny of the outside world. Facing names like John, who** cheaters, pervs, and I am sure much more. But we are so much more than those names. We are the ones brave enough to experience life as we see fit. . At the end of the day, we have chosen our path. For some of us, perhaps life lead us down this path. Maybe we choose this despite our upbringing? Maybe we hide who we are, but also proud of who we are. But sometimes... some others are not proud and are facing difficult life decisions on how does this affect the way we think on how we as persons should be treated and viewed. Recently, I met a lady who felt that she was not suppose to be proud, not suppose to be respected and not suppose to have self respect. For she had suffered from the hands of controlling people that made her believe so. This made my heart very sad, that such a lovely spirit could ever be made to feel that. This lady is so forgiving to her oppressors, that it made no sense to me. BUT her forgiveness taught me. It taught me, that she is much stronger then I ever could imagine. It taught me that if she could find a way to forgive and move beyond that experience, and yet still remain her true self then no matter what names we are called we can rise above that! She has no wish for harm, only to move forward head strong! I believe that once she learned to be proud of who she is. Knowing that she has value in this world no matter what job she takes on, that by showing her strength her oppressors has been silenced. They are too weak themselves to take on such a strong spirit and self confidence. I wrote this story in a singular stance, but in actual fact, this story is a compilation of many amazing women I have had the pleasure or working with! With each lady that I have worked with, ( as an agent ) this was the common dominator. Once they see how wonderful they are, what life can bring when you are positive and self proclaimed! Same story applies to our treasured hobbyist, so many times I have seen so many grow and learn why they visit. Sometimes, they even return to their " normal" life after experiencing this side of the tracks. And for them I am equally happy. Some choose that this is the only way they can maintain their "normal" life and that is also respected by me. I have met men that face abuse, oppression of sexuality and finances to the point their own health becomes at risk. I guess the whole point to this post, is that I want everyone, now matter what side of the fence your on.... To know your own self worth. To know that you are relevant to those around you. You deserve respect and do not let others make you feel less than you are! Strive to be the person you want to be, not the one you are TOLD YOU ARE! So if you have a story to share, or just need to come back to this post as a reminder that you are not alone in your situation....please use this post to have that affirmation.

A woman has allowed you to practice your fetish with her using her feet. Possibly, irrespective of the fact that she charges you, and there is no conventional sex, the exclusivity (she sees no one else) leads her to feel she is cheating. And lack of conventional sex doesn't change one fact, a fetish is a sexual fixation with a body part not conventionally viewed as sexual in nature (no I'm not clever, paraphrasing from the definition in Wikipedia). In short you see this woman for your sexual fixation (no not making judgements here) Bottom line, you are seeing a married woman for a sexual fetish. It really doesn't matter what you, or I or anyone (except her husband) thinks. If she thinks she is cheating then she is cheating A rambling before my second coffee RG

Every now and then I see clients around in my area when I'm out and about and I prefer just to pretend we don't know each other especially if I'm with someone. Most I see with their wives and I act like I don't know them or go in another direction. I would never go up and talk to anyone ever. I give clients discretion and expect it in return. I do know a few clients who are for sure not attached and it's no big deal but I have known these people for a while and they are regulars. I will just wave or say "Hi" but only when I'm alone. One saw me in Ikea one day with a family member and we just smiled from afar at each other. It's funny because I did see one client and I was dressed down and they didn't recognize me. lol. Another saw me from afar at Starbucks and said I looked great wearing actual clothes other than what he was used to seeing me in which was lingerie. :)

You raise interesting points TT. But... a) You're right, there are exceptions to the "no outing" rule. For example, if a client is violent or thieving, an SP can report that person to the police as they would anyone else who committed a crime against them. Sure the client is "outed", but the client gave up the promise of anonymity once they committed their crime. Now, I can see how some people might conclude "well being a standard bearer for a law that endangers SPs is practically the same thing!" But... hypocrisy is not a crime, and in fact I think it's an understood part of the political game. And more importantly... b) Between the two extremes of "expose the hypocrites!" and "do nothing", there's a WHOLE HOST of legal and ethical options for fighting this bill which are already being pursued. I think the court challenge after its passage is the ultimate remedy. The process of law is slow, but I think on this issue the system can be relied upon to fix this ridiculous situation. While we have these other options to pursue, I don't think attacking a clutch of hypocritical politicians (I'm shocked -- SHOCKED!) in what's effectively very public blackmail is justified. Not to mention, I don't think it would accomplish anything. For my fuller thoughts on this, see my post on the subject from a few days ago: POST

I don't think ANYBODY should be outed based on their profession and occupation. As long as they treated the ladies appropriately and respectfully....and no abuse of any sort took place. The fact that they may be two faced lying bastard public figures.....does not constitute a reason to out them in my opinion and do irreparable damage to their family and friend. My way of thinking is we must always think of all of the other people that get hurt down the line when you take action. Now if those same public figures continue to visit ladies after the bill kicks in and get caught....then I would hope that they may get what's coming to them and everything the book has to throw at them. But that's just my take on it.

Cats are well-documented sociopaths. They like randomly attacking your feet while you sleep, they like extremely expensive cat food by the name of "seafood buffet from under the sea infused with gold dust and the tears of humans", and they like emotional manipulation. Which brings me to their sadistic concept of gift-giving. My cat ignored my 30th birthday back in May. No presents, no well-wishes, nothing. Until this month. She has gifted me with: 2 dead pigeons in varying states of decomposition. 1 bug that was so big it must have migrated here from the Jurassic period. But I still love her! Has anyone else received gifts from their cats?

Touring can be lonely at times specially when visiting a new city...where to go, what to see...and by yourself it can be a long tour. This post is to mention 3 wonderfuls ladies I got the chance to spend time with in at johns and Halifax. These ladies made my trip so much more fun :) Savannah Lane...thank you for everything...you are a real friend! Can't wait to see you again and tour with you xxx Clarissa...well my dear...we need to go dancing more often :) thanks again for the ride back and forth to the airport :) you are one awesome lady! MsManda...it was so nice to meet you and spend some time with you shopping and dinning...Hope to see you very soon! Bianca xxx

My canning "experiment" from last night worked well, meaning i have now several mason jars all sealed up filled with apple butter. And while enjoying the nice weather here in Montreal, i stumbled on several friends from town and from Ottawa here on St-Catherine street. Oh, and i made some new friends too.

Hello Two Thirty :) Can you explain what you mean in what I quoted above? Maybe rephrase it. I'm not sure I understand what you're asking :icon_redface: Thanks!

I realize you are new to the board Sunman01 and am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that you did not mean anything offensive by your wording but be advised I was taken back by it even before I read Katherine's well stated post. Just keep in mind that when we talk about respect we mean it as a full meal deal. Is is always to be displayed whether it be posts, private messages, emails, texts, enquirers, setting up a visit, punctuality, hygiene, courtesy, saying thank-you, understanding boundaries, discretion, everything. The ladies are great and they deserve our respect and appreciation. I can attest from my own personal experience that simple respect and courtesy leads to more rewarding experiences and all the more fun! :)

Again quickly dropped into Barb's on a Saturday afternoon (10/4). Arrived around 2:00 and found a fair number of patrons already there. Left at 3:00 after seeing Sasha, Kitty and Brandi on stage. Not sure I've seen Brandi before and thought she was stunning on stage - a very pretty girl with a lovely shape, especially from the waist down; really nice legs and a gorgeous derriere. No sign of Jenny (or Paris).

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Outing is not an answer or should it even be considered an option. The problem is the damage done to the already tarnished image of our industry. I fight tooth and nail to prove to every guest that I am an ethical professional; the blow back will touch every provider where it hurts the most, in the wallet. The PC's will not back down and we will continue to fight. We already carry the reputation of being diseased, lying, stealing manipulators. Now lets add to the greatest fear clients have besides STD/STI's; being outed. Every SP will spend countless hours explaining that she can be trusted with a clients personal information simply to try and maintain her safety. For what? So a couple of men can walk around embarrassed for a month or two then try to rebuild their lives? We are a community, we should be protecting each other. The minute "they" make us enemies, we are screwed. Disclosing names will not fix the issue, it will simply destroy innocent lives of the families involved. No good will come of it except to make juicy newspaper porn for people who aren't even on the fringes of our struggles. The wives, children, parents and friends will bear the brunt of the disclosure. To me, the collateral damage is unacceptable when we know the bomb will not take out the target. There would be no end to justify the means... cat

No one should ever be outed ! What happens to the trust and discretion? Bad idea on all fronts no matter the situation.

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I have to be honest with you, I didn't get much work done today knowing I was meeting Katrine at the end of it all. We playfully texted back and forth in the morning. The anticipation was killing me. So much so, I worried our visit wouldn't live up to expectations. I was dead wrong. She met me at the door in a pink and black bikini and I was speechless. Her pictures are incredibly sexy but they don't do this hottie justice. Simply gorgeous. I jumped in the shower and washed away the work day. Entered the bedroom wrapped in a towel. Katrine sat up at the end of the bed and stared at me with the sexiest bedroom eyes ever. We started kissing and caressing each other all over. I can still feel her silky tongue swirling around in my mouth. Off came the towel. Off came the bikini. I squeezed and licked and sucked those magnificent tits and nipples, feeling them grow hard in my mouth. She lay back on the bed and, after some more DFK and boobie molesting, I parted her legs and enjoyed some amazing DATY with digits ("I like that.) & DATO. Katrine tasted so sweet. Her clit throbbed under the pressure of my tongue and lips. Her moans only made me more determined to make her cum. Mission accomplished. Yummy. Now it was my turn to lay back and enjoy a tremndous BBBJ. I don't know how to describe what was happening while I was inside her mouth other than I'd imagine thats what it feels like to stick your dick in a hot, wet vacuum. I could barely breathe. Asked for 69 so I could distract myself a little so I wouldn't cum so fast. The view as she swung her leg over my head, heavenly. More attention to the clit while my fingers spread her lips and toyed with her asshole. Again, her lustful moaning continued to inspire me. Out came the oil and I got to massage her first. Paid particular attention to her ass, its her favorite. Kneading and spreading those bootylicious cheeks was a pleasure like no other. Something right out of a porn movie. Flipped her over and oiled up and massages those bodacious tatas. Didn't forget her smooth, sexy pussy either. Now, I'd like you all to google bodyslide, find the hottest video you can find and multiply it by 10 and that was how good this naughty slide Katrine did on me. Sucking my tongue and lips on the way up. Un-fucking-believable! "Do you want to fuck me?' Oh sweet Jesus yes! Yes! Yes! Did I mention how amazing a kisser Katrine is? DFK all the while she rode me cowgirl. Only stopped when she got up on her feet and did deep knee bends on my cock, my balls slapping against her delicous ass, until I came really hard! After we cleaned up a bit, I was treated to an RMT quality massage and some wonderful conversation. This young lady is smart, funny, drop dead gorgeous and dirty, dirty, dirty. I think I'm in love! Jumped in the shower, once we stopped kissing again, got dressed, thanked her for the one of the hottest, ball draining hobbying experiences of my lifetime and made plans to see her again on her next visit (unless I can figure out a business trip to Ottawa before then). Thank you so much Katrine! It`s absolutely no surprise how busy you`ve been this trip. I, along with many of my fellow hobbyists, hope it`s the first of many! xoxox

...If the powers that be haven't managed to shut it down by then. http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/two-uber-drivers-charged-over-the-weekend On the subject of the thread, some thoughts. I'm not worried about entertainment - I've always found the people I've met at socials to be entertainment enough :) I'm fine with Kanata in principle, but I agree that ride-sharing or a bus or something would be very useful. We do, perhaps, need to do something about no-shows, especially if transport is an issue; it's not hard to overbook the social itself, but people who take up places on transport and then no-show (or drop out at short notice) will be a serious pain in the ass.

Let me start by saying you guys do such a great job organizing the socials. With such great socials I would have no problem with a higher ticket price. Myself although I don't live in Kanata, I do live west of downtown and think west would be a great idea. I work downtown so I have no problem in giving someone a lift from downtown to the social and since I'm not a drinker I can drive someone afterwards as well. Even if it was in the east end I'd still make my way to the social. After missing the recent one, I'm looking forward to this one.

Just another thought on the problem of no shows. You've done a number of these events, so do an average of the no shows and overbook to account for them. This may be a little uncharacteristic, because of the possibility of bad weather and the transportation issues. I still think it's a great idea to try something different, so full speed ahead.

Spending the afternoon outside in the Sunshine :)

I do think you need to have a bit of a special relationship, at least that is what I found. Maybe tough on the first visit. But then again, really depends on the comfort level of the lady. If she is willing to do BBBJCIM, snowballing isn't much beyond that. And if you kiss after BBBJCIM, you might get a little cum anyway. Not sure why this was thought to be unsafe, beyond BBBJCIM. Seems pretty obvious.

There are lots of SPs who entertain these types of fetishes. I believe that's the better route for you!

At Pigale normally I have a big selection of girls to choose from. Within the first 20 mins or so my eyes wander and scan the floor to make a mental list of those that match my selection criteria (friendly, gnd type and most importantly naturally busty). I also take height into consideration as I am of average height (5.7") and most girls will tower over me with their high heels. Next I try to make eye contact with them and smile. If someone is too far away, I wait and if she comes within a reasonable range I do a gentle wave of fingers, palm and smile. She gets the message and stops by my table more or less immediately. And I proceed from there. If someone is too far away and I have waited for a long while, I simply walk up to her, smile and politely ask her if she will be free for a dance. I used to be shy the first couple of times I went there but have learnt that the best course of action for me is to try the modus operandi outlined above. It has always worked. Simply be polite and smile for that is the key. If you don't like a girl who has come to your table, simply smile and politely say that you are waiting for someone else. Ignore her responses, expressions and let it not ruin your fun time. Get negative reactions out of your mind immediately and focus on the list of girls that you think will give you a good time in the CR and smile at them and be polite. This has worked very well for me even though I am an OK looking, middle aged uncle type guy. ;-) Also you can ask a girl to remove her shoes in the CR if she towers way above you with those ridiculous shoes that they wear. Some will comply. Bottomline: Just appear pleasant, jolly, happy, respectful and most importantly horny. And have a good time.;-)

Yes, I was referring to the notion that we should always act to minimize if not eliminate harm. I think we can all agree that C-36 is harmful. But as Mightypen points out, the difficulty is about what action to take. The effect from sensationalizing something (someone) that would go with outing a federal Conservative Party politician would likely be shortlived, since that politician can always be isolated and replaced. And let's get real: What are the odds that a government of a different political stripe would repeal C-36 after it becomes law, or even try to amend it? That's why it needs to be fought somehow before it can become law. Because as Mightypen also points out, a process is in place to challenge laws and have them changed. But that process is unreasonably long, especially considering the harm that can happen in the meantime.

Not sure why you wish to be noticed by strippers in the club. My problem is the reverse. I get noticed and in majority of cases I don't wish to and I have to say politely no thanks or even lie and make up something (like I am waiting for someone) in spite of all that sometimes in minority of cases they appear offended and ruin the night for me. That said to answer te question this is how I signal a dancer whom I am interested to come to me (if she doesn't or if I am lost or get flagged as one not interested in private dance when I reject so many who are coming over) 1 - Smile at them when the walk by you or when they are on stage dance. 2 - Definite way to attract a dancer is to put a bill ($5, or $10) on stage for them and sit by stage while they are there or walk back to your stage and smile.

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Not to break the mood or spoil the fun - but I would say it's perfectly reasonable for an MA or SP to expect to receive their donation before a session begins. If the guy feels like "running" afterward, maybe it's good for their heart, lol.

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I am willing to pay I think is a great idea and having some sort of entertainment would be great.. specially being xmas time, make it a more special event. .. Also being xmas time transportation issue is even easier. . Operation red nose is available. .. u get to drive there n get driven back to your destination. . While helping a good cause.

I would attend and would gladly pay a fee to do so :) BUT I'd want to hitch a ride on the party bus so I can enjoy a bevvy or two...

I would like that very much :) Please keep me posted! BJ

I'm in!! What is the date so I can plan it out on my Schedule ;) woohoo Party! BJ

The question there would be what leverage does LE have over sps? They have worded the laws specifically to ensure there is no chance of pressing any charges against sps for any reason (other than street work in school zones). The chances of pressuring sps under this legislation is zip. That's why i dislike all this fear mongering speculation. It is a presumption of US style lawmaking, and C36 is not imposing US style laws. US style laws meaning pressuring sps to cooperate in order to reduce or eliminate charges against themselves, to avoid arrest. Even then, they don't necessarily get a client list, they just reuse the sp's location and advertising (and reviews) in order to lure clients over for a sting. They aren't contacting anyone on lists kept by the sp.

Salmon, broccoli and squash.....

I have no troubles paying for a ticket. I would attend a west end social if there is transporation provided...cab are extremely expensive and taking a bus when you are all pretty up and heels is not really a fun experience, especially around rush hour

I dont mind paying either and yes it would incline the ladies who say they are coming to actually come lol... As for Kanata...well why not :) I could even tour there for an extra day ;) BJ

@oleman - you may think it's over rated, but for someone who has not experienced a true DT BBBJTCCIM due to length, girth (in my case - both), lack of partner's experience/ability, etc., it is one of the two holy grails of sex that we seek (for me the other is Greek). I'm sure that once we have experienced it a few times, the novelty would wear off, but I sure intend to enjoy it while it lasts!!!

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All I know is that the street I live on runs east and west. Anything beyond that is new to me. I like exploring new things! ;) The cost of the ticket is fine with me too.

I voted for the west end. You have indicated that the venue has advantages. Car pooling seems like a good option, maybe giving a break for the DD, or at that time of the year there's always Operation Red Nose. Cabs can be expensive, but hey it's Xmas and there's only one party like this every year. Unfortunately, the other problem of no shows is a far more difficult problem. I don't think a $10 charge is probably a sufficient deterrent. I would suggest making it very clear that they will be black listed for future socials unless they give a heads up so that other ladies have the opportunity to attend. I've got a few extra beds if anyone needs to crash.

I would attend it. But depending on how much more it would be. I had a great time at the last social.

I agree there is a lot of fear mongering over C36. I don't believe for one second the police are even going to beef up enforcement on prostitution. For the police it will be business as usual, just using C36 instead of current prostitution laws, but that's my opinion Companions and their clients operating discretely are not going to find an increased police prescence, again my opinion only. The police will focus on what they always have focused on, street prostitution, they will just use C36 as the enforcement tool. And there isn't a quasi religious fervor by police over C36 the same as there is amongst MacKay et al. C36 is a political ideological based law. My guess the police just view it as a new law to enforce, that's it. And it will be enforced within the budgetary constraints they have As for my other comments, they were just quick off the top of my head based on a news report that Terri Jean Bedford mulling over whether to out politicians. I personally do not support outing, (well unless Harper and MacKay LOL...yes tongue in cheek here) but was pointing out one other aspect of the SP/Client relationship, and that the donation is not just for time and services, but discretion and confidentiality too. And if a client, yes even if a politician, is outed, after he has paid the donation, doesn't the companion who has outed him owe the former client a partial refund. After all discretion and confidentiality is part of what a client pays a companion a donation for. A rambling RG

There is so much controversy surrounding this topic because, as a sex worker, your business is built on confidentiality and discretion. I look at the much bigger picture of C36 and that is the government trying to impose it's "moral center" on citizens of the country they are supposed to represent. Within this, they are trying to restrict the rights and liberties of those citizens. It may be sex workers today but who will it be tomorrow? I'm sure every person voting on this who has partaken of a sex worker has that little voice calling them a hypocrite. Whether they choose to listen or not depends on on their own moral fiber. If someone is willing to vote to take away one persons rights while secretly protecting their own..... I don't care what race, religion, sexual choices or distinctions, gender or any other "qualifier" you are, you are a person and deserve to be treated with respect and protected for your right to be who you are. Anyone looking to impose their crap on others while doing what they want, deserves what they get. Live and let live.

Not sure of any traits other than age that you may be looking for but dd_Emma may be in the ball park. If you like there is also funvalerie, summer, mature_jen or highsexdrivebabe.

Amen sister and thanks for saying what others am sure were thinking..At Phoenix there is a front entrance and the back can be for leaving but don't go through if told not to.. Also agree with this guy trying to feel up Grace,she will say what she is OK with and please respect that..if U are not sure what is OK then ask and will find out most of these providers are not in it for getting groped or trying to get their kitty rubbed..need to respect these massage providers and go elsewhere for full service.. otherwise enjoy the rest of the massage and if a HE is offered then be happy with that..

So...this may be a bit sarcastic for humor purposes, but here it is.. so If I am INDY, and yet pay taxes on my income, pay my mortgage, etc..does this make CRA and my bank " benefiting off of others" ? wow, I should let my bank and accountant know now..hahhaha