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have you asked the manager or owner to look up the cameras of the club for you ? nuden will look up the camera, look at when she came see you , if you gave her a bill , and all the story it could have been easily resolved... no need to tarnish the club here with a warning post that they won t read, by telling them you re giving them a warning, when you're clearly NOT a simple phonecall, ask for the owner, tell the situation, he will come back to you with answers and IF the lady took your 20$, she will be gone you can be sure of that because they are honest people sorry to sound rude, but i defend my club . you state : " I could've persued it with management there but I thought if I posted the warning here for all to see and Nuden lost business because of it then Nuden management would wake up and have the problem addressed so I'm posting the warning here" that's rude, so you want us dancers to loose business too because of a simple situation that could be resolved with 2 minutes of your time? not impressed, i tought this was a positive board

I got my very first reco yesterday. You should have seen the smile on my face, I was teeming. In an industry that is so cut throat, and over saturated, having someone recommend you sets you up above the rest. Being fairly new to this industry, and having a reco after a month of very hard work, it feels good. I never thought that I would get one, I figured I would be bottom feeding for the rest of my career. It's nice to have your work be noticed. It gives the gentlemen who viewed me as a -maybe- a chance to have a second thought and an idea of what time spent with me is really like.

this thread has gone too far There's NO such rule as to keep our panties on stage NOR that rule has been relaxed in some bars, it hasnt The industry is already slow, do you realise you could make us loose curious guys coming to see us by spreading such false rumours about a new rule that doesnt exist sorry to sound harsh but someone needed to say something this discussion goes in way too much useless details and suppositions ... we HAVE to remove our panties. If you're not satisfyed you can go complain to the manager and the lady will be fined 20$ , and probably will never speak to you again , and tell all the other girls who complained and they will gang up against you and everytime you ll step foot in a club youll be known as "the panties complainer" end of story

That's how we roll. Unless there is a rule that specificly requires we drop'em. Then it gets freaky. Additional Comments: Agreed. Personally, stage plays almost no role in who I choose for the CR; panties or no panties. Aside from general attractiveness, conversation, personality and compatibility are far more important and that is decided at the table. I also often request that a dancer go slow when in the CR. I typically stay awhile and want to let the dancer know she can take her time and get comfortable with me. This creates a comfortable environment that benefits both parties and I've never had a problem with boundaries. Fiinally, I'm not saying the 'no panty ' guys are all creeps. H&K seems like a good guy who really likes strip clubs. I just think they are losing their minds at the thought of vagina and seriously losing perspective and consideration for the dancers. Now I'm off to prance in my tighty whities for guardian.

Congratulations and never say bottom feeder. Consider yourself the same as everyone else!!

I was fortunate to spend a delicious half hour with Ms Bunny today. Short but sweet. Maybe too short? But we're all busy people, and she can achieve a lot in a short space of time, that's for sure. She is tattooed, has purple hair, and is as hot as all get out. As sweet to the taste as she is on the eyes. She'll have you moaning uncontrollably as warm waves of sensation flow through your body. An experience you'll think about long after it's over. Not to mention a lovely and convenient downtown location. The best time you'll ever have on top of an alligator, that's for sure...

It happens to us all! During the holidays, they may not be financially able to, perhaps they have interest in someone else or maybe they are too busy....there really is no right or wrong answer there could be many reasons why no one is calling or has booked! All you can do is try to keep money put to the side for rainy days and keep a positive outlook...tomorrow is another day

It is important to know at this moment the majority of nude dancers entertain audience with nude stage dancing. Only at a couple of bars the nude part of dancing has been relaxed. Also there are a proportion of dancers who go extra ways to entertain patrons on stage but putting efforts and energy into their dances. I am suggesting that those sitting next or close to stage or even far from stage please reward those ladies (or even all who entertain you with nude dances) with a small ($5 or $10) bill on stage for her during or right after her stage dance. Doing so for a few selected dancers wouldn't cost much and since different patrons have different preferences then many dancers will be encouraged to perform best and rewarded as well and wouldn't regard stage dancing as a have to performed task or waste of their time. Just a suggestion. I have always had problems with ladies not being paid by the bars for stage dancing and totally understand their (some) reluctance and feel very bad for those not making money in the clubs. It is not fair to work and not been paid.

Again, a very nice visit to the Mate (Sunday evening). Quiet, but the charming Brandy and Ruby were gracing the joint, so off to Lapland. I will reiterate earlier kudos for these lovely gals- honest to a fault (I suggested I'd had three initial dances with Brandy, but she corrected me, only two), both simply a credit to the profession and our species. Was not fixated on mileage, more interested in a semblance of affection and human contact (No - I'm not married!), and was not disappointed. After a horrifying evening of gambling, this was a bet that came in. Shot a game with Brandy, and true to form when trying to impress a pretty girl with my pool skills, did my best Helen Keller impression!

You guys do realize that there has always been the 3 song rule in the champagne room? Many new dancers won't get completely naked until the third song. If a veteran dancer employs that tactic than I think I'd rather spend my hard earned money elsewhere. Strip clubs are increasingly becoming obsolete because quite frankly they just charge too much compared to SP and MA's. If they now refuse to strip....you know...at a strip club, then forget it.

By chance or gift of fortune:), I just ran into one of my favourite girls ever, someone I haven't seen in over a year. We exchanged contact information so I'm hoping we now stay in touch.

I think it was decided that kissing could be considered 'non-sexual' ('cause you can kiss your kids and your mother and it's definitely not sexual, lol.) It's because technically a person could advertise they sell sexual services legally, but according to the law any third party (like this website,) who allows them to advertise 'through' them said sexual services is breaking the law, just as those wishing to buy the legal and legally advertised sexual service would be breaking the law... That hurt my head a little just trying to think it out. Hopefully some logical and level headed Liberals will look at these convoluted and ridiculously useless laws and, at the very least, write something clear, understandable and constitutional.

Even though I'm not a SP (although I play one on TV - sorry, bad 80's humor), I may be able to chime in with info I know. I've spent many-a-night texting with a friend who works regularly (I would usually drive her home, so I needed to know when she was wrapping up for the night, etc.). We would text throughout the nights and I got a pretty good feel for the flow of clients/when it was slow, etc. I can't count how many nights she would be upset and want to go home early because nobody was booking or even texting. I've seen her go full nights with only one client....seen slow weeks, etc. But I've also seen really busy nights, where she would go home early cause the night was so good. I've seen nights that even shocked her (and she isn't new to the business), they were that good. First off.....I will say, do not, in any way, take it personally (even though that's probably pretty hard to do) - do not allow slow times to mess with your mental physique. I've seen your pics on this site and can say you are very hot (and I'm one who usually goes for the spinner type). You ooze a certain unobtainable sexuality (I see it come through in your pics) - YOU'RE fine, trust this...... Now, as for why there may be slow times.... 1. End/Start of the month - bill time = less spending money. In the same vein, you may see a slow-down around "spending times" ......like when school supplies are being bought or Christmas. 2. Concentration of competing ads due to time of year. For instance, this nicer weather is bringing out more girls, expecting more business. Summer is busier than winter, etc. 3. Quality of competing ads - sometimes there will be an influx of girls coming from out of town/new girls, which draws clients away from local girls. The guys really like trying something new sometimes.....which leads me to..... 4. This business (like the bar/restaurant business) is pretty circular. I used to own a couple bars and had the same feelings I think you are displaying. Why was the bar so dead this month....what are we doing wrong?? If you spend any regular time in bars downtown, you will see this pattern of highly busy....then a taper-off, then back to busy. People like change in their entertainment and tend to follow others.....if a bar is the hot spot, it's the hotspot because it's the hotspot. If it's dead, it's because it isn't known as the hotspot of the month and people walk in and end up leaving cause there is nobody there. This slightly transfers over to the escort world in the sense that there are just up and down times, depending on many factors like good/bad reviews, newness to the business, etc. If it's bad for you now, it will get better....and there will be down times again. :) 5. Location plays a factor too. If you use one location over and over that isn't the best in guys eyes, you may not see as much repeat business or if you book a hotel that is lower-end, etc. On the flip side, sometimes staying in a different spot/higher end place will comfort the client more so, bringing in more business. Sometimes, after a clients sees you in a "good" location, they may be more apt to visit in a less than stellar location the next time. Perceptions/familiarity play a role. 6. How much you work. Obviously, if you are available/advertise all the time, there is no "rush" to try and see you and you will tend to feel the effects of the circular pattern more. If you work, say, one or two days a month, those days WILL usually be busy. The escort I lived with only worked/advertised a couple days a month. In the days in-between, she would be contacted by a lot of regular clients....the odd time she would do an outcall, but didn't prefer outcalls. I've seen guys pay $100 more or even double the regular price to get to see her in the off weeks. A lot of the times, when she would go back to work, she had many clients already waiting for her return or even pre-booked. Unavailability is good sometimes, but not an attractive plan when things are slow, sadly - but it has to be done from time to time. 7. Ads and pics!!! Some men have the attention span of an after-dinner mint. Once they see your ad one time, they immediately form an opinion/choice in their head. So, every time they see that same ad, they think the same thing. If they get a positive opinion, you're set, but if you get bumped down to the "maybe" section or even the "no way" section, you are kinda stuck there. Adding new pics/different ad wording can sometimes shake it up and give those maybe/no way guys a chance to rethink things. If your current ad is working fine, don't mess with it too much - I've seen ads on Backpage that haven't change at all in years. Those things may help explain down times, and here are some solutions I've seen used..... 1. Changing pics/ads/posting more ads. I know on Backpage, if you use the free ad option, I don't think your ad shows up in the Gallery view, which is the most popular section guys will go to. If you go to the "Date" section (where free ads run), you will see how many more ads there are vs the Gallery view. I believe to put up a full ad is like 4-5 bucks and you will have to pay that amount again to bump it up/make another post....but you will be viewed by a lot more potential clients. I'll tell ya.....until I read that you worked, I thought you were just a girl who liked posting on Lyla.....I go on Backpage/Lyla a lot and never saw your ad (I usually use Gallery view on BP). I had to kinda dig a bit to find you. :) 2. Changing rates/services. This usually happens when things are slow/competitive. If you see one girl offering "$80 specials", usually more will pop up doing the same thing. Like in all commerce, people want deals and sometimes you have to offer them - but that is your choice. Also, you may see girls pop up that are offering services they didn't before. There is one girl on BP who doesn't look like she struggles to find clients, but lately she has been offering a service she didn't before and it's a rather big jump type service. Maybe she evolved to doing that in her personal life and has added it to the menu now that she is comfortable with it, or........ maybe she is adding it to trump up more business? Most girls are pretty set in what they offer though and it would take a major change/lack of business for them to deviate from that. It's an option though.... 3. Providing an excellent service/Communications. If you are offering a great service, sometimes, ya just gotta stick with it and hope word spreads......conversely, if you find things are realllllly slow, it could stem back to the quality of the visit for the guys (not saying this is the case with you - I have never seen you). Some providers are, well, just not that good at what they do and word spreads and they slowly lose clientele. In cases like this, an option is trying another city/travel to where you are not well-known and milk that areas as much as you can and move on (hey, it happens lol). Other than those things, I guess patience is your best recourse of action most of the time. You will have down weeks....even months, but if you provide a good service, visibly get yourself out there, are somewhat consistent and keep a good attitude, the good times will come. Heck, there will probably be times you will look back on this thread and say, "How was I ever that slow???". :) :) Hope any/some of that helps!

Over the last few weeks I have noticed many threads by punters stating things like: -Any info on ...? (OP) Added posts contain: Saw her last week. Pics are real. She was great, will repeat. -Original Post states: Saw this lady today. Nice location. She was really nice. Loved her ***. We had a great time. Will see her again. Why are punters not filling out proper recommendations? If you have visited someone who deserves a reco, why not fill one out about them? Certain cities are struggling to find recos in their area. Some of these discussion threads are from visiting providers and if you enjoyed seeing them they may not return because no one is aware they are worth seeing since there is no reco about them. Besides sharing info about the industry recos is the main reason why this site was created in the first place, to share your positive experiences about providers. Recos don't need to be a full page. (Unless you want to share more.) Make them just two or three sentences if you prefer. It just keeps record of worth-while providers. Community!

Talia seems to have left the forum, anyone have a reco for an ebony SP?

Aside from my daily yoga and running, having a day-job helps a lot, (especially if you don't have a lot of savings.) Having to rely solely on this business to stay fed and such can be really, really difficult.. especially if you end up in a situation where you need the money- but the person contacting you sounds less than safe/desirable. I've found that making sure you don't end up in a situation where you have to take additional risks to get by can help a lot in keeping yourself safe and sane.

Great post Leviathan. Very informative. All of this is news to me. I wasn't aware that there were different ads showing depending on how you sort them. Seems like sorting by "date" shows all of the ads, while sorting by "top" (the default) gives you less. Sorting by "gallery" gives even fewer still (presumably because they are paid ads if I understand you). I have always sorted by gallery because hey, I'm visual. I recognize photos and determine very quickly if it's an ad I've seen before. (A system Leviathan also alluded to.) I always assumed that all of the ads would be there regardless of how they were sorted. I know differently now but I doubt most people do. I assume most people view the way I did, which might explain your slow spell. Honestly I don't think I had ever seen your bp ads. (I would have remembered them ;) ) You may want to seek the advice of other sp's who use bp to fully understand the ins and outs of best ways to get your ad seen. It seems far more complicated than I would have thought. Good luck Melanie. Great first recco by the way. That aught to help.

I've literally never seen Melanie's ads without a direct search. This is a factor I'd keep an eye on if I were you Melanie.

The rule, as I know it: 2 song club - top off during first song, panties off during second song. 3 song club - top off during second song (or earlier), panties off during third song (and earlier if they want). In the champagne room, the typical technique is to tease for a while. This is a standard technique, so I don't know why anyone is surprised by it. Top off after the first song. Bottoms off after the second song. If she is comfortable with you, those may relax somewhat. I tend to spend on regulars, so they usually get right to the biscuits from the start. Some get naked before the music starts. That's a choice they make. Maybe you don't make them feel safe. I'm not saying that's the case, just that there are many possible reasons. Maybe they really only feel like doing 2 songs because they're tired. Regardless, there is no relaxed 'panties on' rule.

She is legit based out of AB... I have never seen her but was going to book her while she was here but schedules didn't align.... I have read multiple reviews on another site that all say positive things... only thing I will say is that those pics have been around for a very long time and she is not 33... I remember seeing ads around 2010 with those same pics but no review I have ever read did any of the guys ever complain about it.

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Do you know of one in Ottawa where you can actually do this? I've used most of the bitcoin/instacoin atms in Ottawa and Hull and at none of them can you turn bitcoins back into CAD or any actual currency. My experience with them is they're good for using Backpage and they're usable with my site provider, (wordpress) aside from that and hoping they stay strong (bitcoins actually lost a lot this winter, on my wallet they're trading under $1100 now,) they're pretty much useless.

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I find this old thread very interesting and I think it's worth to read: https://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=4259 This thing had been discussed from multiple perspectives. Some members suggested practical remedies to overcome it.

Listening to people, who know little or nothing about it, discuss and dissect a difficult interpersonal situation affecting others.

Bill C-36 passed on September 29, 2014 and since then the number of websites involving the E word that the police have cracked down on equals ZERO! The police don't have the resources to deal with this idiotic bible thumper law the Conservatives brought in to please their base supporters. The Liberals are in power now and there is no political will to enforce this legislation. If the police were really going to do anything BP would be long gone by now. The only thing the police will ever enforce is street level activities and this is because the people who live in those areas complain to the police about it (and rightly so). People need to abide by the rules of this website, so listen to Parker. Just my 2 cents about this legislation and its consequences.

Bitcoins are actual money and more useful than Canadian or US dollars but yes of course, you can exchange your bitcoin for fiat currency if you must. I started heavily investing in Bitcoin when it was around $100 and when it reached $1000 US I cashed out 75% of my investment to take profit, of course I wish I hadn't as it's now over $2,100 Canadian but 20-20 hindsight is a wonderful thing:) In larger cities there are Bitcoin ATMs which can convert fiat currency to bitcoin and back again. If you want to buy or sell Bitcoin from the comfort of your home QuadrigaCX is a Canadian bitcoin exchange based in Vancouver and CEX.IO LTD is another popular choice with offices in London, UK and a payment partner in Lefkosia, Cyprus. You can also use localbitcoins.com which is more conventional (cash, Interac transfers, PayPal etc.). Bitcoin is something very strange to most people that haven't used it but as soon as you have used bitcoin to pay for a hotdog from a vendor on a street corner it seems almost magical as to how simple and easy it is. Youtube has many (too many) videos that explain anything and everything bitcoin for anyone that wants to understand it. It's obviously anonymous and untraceable enough because unfortunately it has become the favorite way for people to purchase anything and everything illegal on the dark/deep web.

Just figured I'd update. I popped over to her place just because she's the only pop in lady I can find on the boards and I never know when I'm going to have free time. Overall her demeanour was fine; not aggressive or mean. Quite polite and accommodating actually. The pics are definitely from 10 years ago.. she is not an attractive lady. I didn't do anything with her because, frankly, it's not what I'm into. Her rack is gigantic, as you'd guess from the pics, but they're pretty low hanging. I left the place after about 5 minutes stinking of smoke and feeling like I'd made a pretty huge mistake. I gave her some money for her time and took off. I will say that when I got there and discussed rates, they were about $50 more each than what she told me by email. Don't waste your time fellas, unless you've got a granny fetish. Then she's actually a pretty safe bet!

And that right there is the problem. The short answer is no. I'm sure there is some way to do it, but it's never really taken off and it's far from convenient. Maybe some of the Bitcoin believers will have a better option - but I'm not aware of any way to turn Bitcoins into cold hard cash quickly and easily.

Roxy is legit, tall, great shape, and nicely enhanced chest. She has been a regular of mine for awhile, and always pleases. More PSE then GFE but very chill and fun to chat with. Not a cuddler, really goes all out when asked.

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I was trying to find someone new to see and have found a gorgeous lady that was posting for that day. I send her a text describing myself and what I was looking for as availability, she replied and told me all was fine and gave me the address and then I did not get anything else until I showed up and texted her. She is now asking for a deposit to secure our time, I tell her that I'm in the lobby and I'm ready. She says not before I give her the deposit. So i ask her if she is available or not, she says that she is, so what is the problem here? She says she will not book me until I send her money, I told her to give me the room # and I would give the money in her hand if she wants(I had the money in an envelope). After she started to argue with me I simply wished her a good rest of the day and weekend. I'm always nervous to give out money over the internet without having proof of what I will get in return(or not get for that matter) Another reason I do not wish to give out money that way is a paper trail(proof) and that my wife would find out and ask the W5.

Today I bought a big canvas for a new painting that I want to do... 30 inches by 40... I want to try something more challenging.... and big.

Sorry, but this isn't about your feelings or your character. You're using a lot of words but they only show that you aren't connecting the dots. You're planting a lot of trees and then claiming you only planted trees, while denying the forest. If you really want to support and respect dancers and the industry, then SHOW them respect and honour their decisions instead of arguing for the reinstatement of old policies that *require* them to remove panties for people who aren't willing to pay for the CR.

Ya i am a barefoot tippy toe gal unless a request is made lol. Spent many years in the corporate world wearing heels. Now, whenever possible i am barefoot!!! Stiĺl own some killer heels though.

GoinDown, I'm really not trying to start anything but you have to be able to see the humor with regards to your second post, "...seeing one's own words in print... quickest to 1000 posts etc. lol." It's your fifth post on this thread. I just find that funny.

i bet that everyone on here is being honest. I believe that the people that post here are a small percentage of the total people that play in town. Im willing to bet she is busy/double booking/ first come first serve and thats why theres so many reported no-shows. shes probably seeing a lot of people. That said im not going to try with this one at the moment unless i see more positive feedback/details, as although she is attractive i wouldnt put her as my type and im afraid of getting to know local ladies/ i know people on her facebook friends list

I read, use and highly appreciate recco's. Yes, of course YMMV. Not everyone is going to have the same experience. It does tell you that the girl is real, not a scammer, and gives some idea of the type of experience to expect. I also have gotten to know some of the posters tastes which gives the recco from them more weight. There are a few members who I've learned to trust them when they give thumbs up, and that it's worth listening to. I have had many great experiences that I might not have if not for the recco of other members. I totally disagree with that statement. I'm here to find the good experiences. Not the bad ones. There are many sites that will help you find those. Not sure why you'd want to though. Just my thoughts

I myself appreciate when someone leaves a reco especially if they enjoyed their time spent with me Not only does it help me it also helps other gentlemen when seeking a legit lady you don't have to get into every little explicit detail but ... your overall experience is enough!

This is not easy to write.This week we all lost a great woman,a great friend and provider.Summer had a special place in her heart for the friends she saw and made.She gave of herself right to the end,she will be missed by many friends and loved ones. Foveror loving you Summer xooxoo from all of us

Posting bad dates/phone numbers is prohibited in the public forum. Contact the mod to gain access to the SP area. Your posting history qualifies you to gain entrance to this area. While it's great to keep SPs informed of bad dates or no shows, your current customers may see this as a lack of discretion on your part. It would be advisable to delete these numbers and ask to gain access to the SP only forum where it is completely private. Discretion is everything in this business.

This actually goes both ways! I get worried about people I haven't seen or heard from in awhile but I realize that they have people in their life beyond our great connection and I must just trust that they are being taken care of! I know it doesn't stop you from worrying but I am sure she has support. I am pretty sure we all do :) I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way!

I am a super passionate kisser! That's totally my thing. I'm white, but if you like curvy girls feel free to pm me! Cheers dear! xo

Always happy to jump in on these discussions.:) I like spinners, so here's my list. In no particular order, babes I've seen and who are still active: (This doesn't include everybody who should be acknowledged here...) Massage Blair Brass Harmony Brass Britney Brass Jackie Gilcrest Sadie Banks Sassy Cassie Victoriascrt Robyn Kelly CMJ Daniella CMJ sp's Jade613 (Most of my other favs don't seem to be around much) Dancers @ Barb's Phoenix Ariel Bridgette Nicole Carmen

Some time ago I learned an important life lesson while spending time with a beautiful dancer. After being approached and spending about 20 minutes with this beautiful young lady she asked me "would you like to go for a dance" to which I replied "of course, I was just looking for the right moment to ask you". She let out a huge sigh and replied; "Thank you. You have no idea how nervous I was to ask you to go for a dance". I was stunned. "Why would a beautiful, sexy and intelligent woman such as yourself be nervous about asking a shy middle aged guy like me if he wanted to go for a dance"? Her reply changed me forever. She asked; "how many times in your life have you been shot down by a girl in a club, or asking her for her number.....30-40 times total in your life". Well it doesn't matter how beautiful you are, we dancers can often get turned down for dances that many times in one night. Rejection hurts and I feel it each time I approach a customer.......especially one I've never met before". I've always been highly respectful and appreciative of the times that I've spent with dancers but before that encounter I'd never given a second thought to a dancer's insecurities or vulnerabilities. That encounter changed me as a patron of SC's but more importantly it changed who I am as a man for which I'm eternally grateful.

^There's nothing wrong with going up to a dancer and asking her to join you at your table instead of going right to the CR -- that way you can build that mental connection.

Yes, it's a new thing. We have had a LARGE increase in new members trying to SHILL post recommendations (Mostly asian ads that are known bait and switchers) so I just made a minimum to post a rec... that stops the lame shill accounts and also gives some credibility to those who make it to 5+ posts and 5+ days. I may make a page that explains the moderation period more clearly and set it so that all new members are asked to read the page. I just don't have time right now to set that all up

Thanks Alex that was a very good post. For me I could easily fall in love with a couple of sp's but I will always pay. I do though have a couple of great friendships with my regular sp's I take them shopping and out for dinner or lunch before and after our sessions. I enjoy it and so do they but thats as far as it goes. Being recently seperated after a number of years of marriage I am definately not into the relationship thing and doubt I ever will be again. Driving to the city ever couple of weeks to get my oil changed works very very well for me. I don't have to date anyone and I get my needs taken care of for far far less money than I would spend trying to romance a woman that might or might not put out. Thank god for the boards and the girls I have met through them, has saved me a pile of money and grief compared to what I had before;)