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FFS. 1. Many of the ladies who have responded to you with EXCELLENT advice have been doing this for more than 20 years. I'm pretty sure they'd be able to "fathom" such behaviour if it actually happened on a regular basis--except it doesn't. 2. If you're so suspicious and paranoid--this really isn't the right job for you. Not that it matters because... 3. ....I'm pretty sure you're a dude! I hate to play gender roles here, but no legit woman looking to get into this business would ask the questions you're asking.

It's easy to launch trial balloons in the form of "What if..." questions, especially online where no one knows who anyone is or what their ulterior motive may be. But if I've taken a room at, say, the PanPacific Hotel here in Vancouver and someone goes to the front desk and says that the lady in room 1811 is a prostitute and is entertaining clients there today, I expect the hotel management will laugh long and hard. "Prove it," they will say. "Start by first telling us who you are (and showing some ID), then tell us the name of the person registered in that room and give us a concrete reason to believe that this person is working there." What will you do? Provide your identification? Somehow, I find this difficult to imagine. Can you furnish the name under which the room is registered? I guarantee that you won't be able to do that. Will you be able to provide evidence that someone called Samantha Evans has invited you to consort with her at the PanPacific Hotel this afternoon? Maybe you can. But you won't have a room number and in any case the PanPacific has never heard of Samantha Evans. You can get frustrated and pound the desk. You can roll your eyes and storm around a little bit. You can say that maybe you have the room number wrong, but you know that there's a prostitute in the hotel and you want them to take action, to call the police or at least go and check that room or other rooms. This might be an interesting way to entertain yourself for about five minutes on a rainy Vancouver afternoon in the dregs of winter. But from the hotel's standpoint you will look like a spiteful boyfriend or a malicious ex-partner or someone who's just got it in for a woman who turned him down when he tried to pick her up in the bar. If I do say so myself, no one has ever visited me anywhere and complained about it afterward. Oh, wait. That's not true. See, I had this stalker awhile back.... The police took care of that problem for me. But otherwise, the gentlemen who visit me and who see my colleagues in similar circumstances are no more interested in causing harm to me than I am in harming them or anyone else, anywhere, anytime. We meet. They pay me for my time. We engage in mutually agreeable things, whether we have a meal, play some chess, debate what passes for politics in B.C. or indulge in a wide range of delectable, erotic activities. Usually it's a combination of things. And at the end of our appointed time, we part company amicably. It's that simple. It may transpire that the gentleman and I discover that we're really not quite as compatible as we'd expected. The meeting may go very well, but one or the other of us may not want to repeat. Maybe he was looking for a one-time encounter, nothing more. Astonishingly, a man could discover that a verbal, opinionated woman isn't his preferred cup of tea regardless of her other skills and assets. Whatever the reason, it won't be because one of us has robbed the other, or because either of us was assaulted or has ventured to blackmail the other. Fear-mongering helps no one. But if you believe that most people are out to get you, if you imagine that everyone is hatching some dire plan to bring about your ruin... sweetheart, this is not the right profession for you. You will either take foolish risks that bring about exactly what you hoped to avoid or you will take no chances at all and earn nothing. At the least, you will end up feeling bitter, used and degraded because that's all you expected to feel, no matter how much cash you've got in your hand. More than 99% of the time, if screened effectively, the client is not an enemy.

and so are you.

A number of us here on cerb think you are actually a guy posing as a lady asking these questions, we have let you continue to see what becomes of this (your intentions).... Some members suspect you may be a guy we recently banned. Your writing style and wording choices scream "male"... We just want to be sure before we ban your account so we are basically letting you hang yourself here,

WHAT would you do in that situation if you are in a hotel and are supposed to be there for a day or two and they threaten to rat you out? My first repsonse would be : Go ahead...make my day ...I dare you to go and report me to the hotel, and while your at it-you can explain how it is that you know this....lol I would also keep his money, order him the eff out and then take his information and report it to the sp bad date section ;)

I have to agree with Boomer. I don't condone what these men did. It is clearly illegal and it is illegal for very good reasons. There is questionable judgment at this age, and these girls should wait until they are old enough to fully understand all of the implications of the decision. Not sure if 18 is even old enough for that. I still thought I knew everything at 18 and it took a lot of time to realize how wrong I was. That being said, lumping these men in with men who commit what in my opinion is one of the most heinous of crimes, sexually abusing defenseless young children, does a disservice to the term and perhaps lessens its impact by using it too broadly. I know we are talking semantics here, but that is just my opinion. I also find it disturbing that LE is taking this "sting" approach, but again, if they keep their sights set on the guys who are seeking underage girls, then I have no issues with that. I just hope that they don't use their success here as an excuse to start cracking down on men seeking in-call locations for example, which are still technically illegal. Likely not worth their time and perhaps I worry too easily, but one has to at times when there is so much at stake. Just my thoughts.

They got what they deserved, in my opinion.. I have iffy feelings about 18 year Olds in this business even. When youre that young, you're not in the headspace to think throughly of the consequences and risks involved in your actions. I was mature for my age at 17, but had I gotten into the business then, my thinking would have been much different than it is now. When I think about how young teenagers are in their minds, and how they make their decisions, it really bothers me, and I do find it exploitative, that someone would try to hire one for sex. Even if they aren't children per se, most teens aren't mature enough to make these types of life changing decisions, and I really don't believe a high percentage of the men who would see such young ladies, actually have their best interests at heart.

I agree that what these men did is wrong but to label them as pedophiles is just going a bit too far. Yes seeking someone so young is wrong but in some ways what the police are doing borders on entrapment in my opinion.

..., I am not big on Toys.., I am more into Real deal ;).., but even If I was to be a toy lover.., I think I would have my own... Toys are something that are very personal... and yes there is desinfectants and cleaners... and like u say u can even put a condom on ..., they are still very personal.... lol My opinion anyway :)

I'm completely happy with LE using BP to target the men who seek out underage girls. If the ad or initial correspondence with the ad poster says that the girl is 16 years old, the man must end the correspondence, period. Even better would be to report the ad to BP or the police. It's not illegal to read or reply to an escort ad, so there's nothing to fear for taking action. Until the Supreme Court of Canada makes its decisions on the prostitution laws, which probably won't happen until 2015 or so, there's no reason to worry about LE targetting men who are looking for an in-call engagement. The police and judiciary are not interested in entertaining charges about independent companions working quietly. If someone is operating an in-call and creating a public nuisance, that could be a problem, but it would be a civic by-law matter in most cases, not a criminal one. Going after the people who are promoting underage prostitutes and the men who are seeking them, however, is perfectly fine with me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8AkjWQ3P-M OK THIS IS AMASING!!!!! YOU KINDA THINK IT IS STUPID AT FIRST, CAUSE YOU CANT SEE WHAT HE IS PAINTING, BUT THEN AT THE END YOU FEEL YOU ARE STUPID FOR NOT SEEING IT!

I think Vanessa gave you a good advice. In addition if he threatens to call the police, remind him that he has to explain to the police why he is there himself. It is criminal to be found in a bawdy house if he is in the hotel room that he claims to be one. Not to mention blackmail.

Further to Samantha's post, the solicitation laws really are addressing "public nuisance". It's important to remember that the client can be charged with solicitation in addition to the service provider. Women can find themselves being solicited by men while walking down the street in an area used for street prostitution. This can be embarrassing, uncomfortable or threatening depending upon the circumstances. This is one of the public behaviours that the solicitation laws are designed to address.

While the age was not in the original ad, these guys absolutely knew she was underage. I replied to the ad, and the first sentence of the response was "Hi, I'm Chrissy. I'm 16 years old...." I immediately emailed the BP abuse account and also contacted crimestoppers.

Okay, darlings, This is the fetish board, so I'm asking: What are your kinks? What turns you on and gets you off that's outside of that narrow, confining box called "normal"? Clearly, I like feet - no kidding. ;-) I like people who like women's feet (ideally mine) and I like women's feet, myself. But I also like the crack of a good single-tail (I only just learned how to use one, so I won't be taking aim at actual people any time soon). I'm also curious about suspension bondage, about what it takes to make another person fly, about how to make the rope an extension of one's own arms. What are you into? - Tess.

I can only say I'm sorry for your frustration. Irresponsibilty from an sp or a client is never acceptable. To ignore an appointment without a proper cancellation or a reasonable explanation is very unprofessional . Just keep trying we are not all like that. Most sp's value dearly their clients or soon to be clients, without them where would we be.

I had a reply all ready to go, then lost it somehow. :( I wasnt that impressed by the first episode and the first airing of After Dark. No one seemed to be talking about anything other than food, and themselves, etc. The 2nd After Dark and episode was an improvement and personalities and game playing is starting. In general after last night's AD, I would say that Suzette is shooting herself in the foot by actively saying she doesn't actually want to talk game, and seems to be saying she wants to drift along to have a good time in the house. I appreciate that she is unlikely to win challenges, but people are also going to wonder which way the wind blows with her and just decide to make her an easy eliminatioin if they end up being HOH and want an easy out for nominations and eviction without losing anyone else's support for the following week. I likes the attempt at diversity, I must say I was hoping but not really expecting what they ended up doing. I thought that they would try to check off all the culture boxes with one guest, a 50 year old black (or mixed) lesbian mother of 3 from Montreal. So fairly impressed that they didn't do that, and then have 14 white guests lol. I found it kind of Canadian that the first person to get evicted was pretty much the only person who was campaigning or trying to play the game and the others felt she was being too pushy lol. The Have Not room looks pretty comfortable, and the hammock looks like it will be the place for strategizing for 2-3 at a time. I liked the challenges seen so far are simple, more like BB in the early years. Only the last couple of years the challenges seem to be getting very complex and elaborate and expensive, when it isn't really necessary. we don't see the full challenge on After Dark, we only see snippets in the episodes, we appreciate them

Ummm I think that is what I said. It is legal except in cases of what is termed as exploitation. I explicitly said "does not pay them".

I met Adrianna about a week ago after having seen her photos, and hearing a bit about her.. I thought she would be my type. So, I book through Explore-her, very easy and off I go to see her. She greets me at the door, little kiss to start and we move off to the bed. Once there, I find her kissing, it's way deeper and she has the softest, fullest lips, awesome DFK. She isn't done with me, and proceeds to give a nice wet sloppy BBBJ. Oh yes, love this too. It is of course my turn, and I slip down to the moistness and get a taste of that pussy. She is very receptive, and wants some digits at the same time. I am enjoying myself, and I would say she is too. A little more BBBJ, and then she slips on the hat, and mounts cowgirl.. A little of this, and I really want to do doggie, and she is keen on this too. So, I get to see that incredible ass, and can't hold back much longer. A little rest and she was open to a round two, only BBBJ this time, and was able to reach a 2nd SOG. Definitely my body type, not a spinner, but not large, just that perfect bit of roundness that I find so desirable. Anyway, I say I look for amazing, I am going to put her into this category, both from a service, but also a personality, since she likes to give you feedback and direction, and a little dirty talk too, if you treat her right. She is a student and doesn't work often, so keep an eye open, because you don't want to miss her.

:milleunenuit: Kelly: Is beautiful Chinese Canadian , very empathetic sexy woman, knows a good massage to help you lift the tiring work, relax muscles, you are welcome to try. Please call ahead to book your appointment. Extra loving care with a nice tip (and nice manners). Kelly :613-800-4763 Hours: 9:30 AM - 6: 30PM; Please call me an appointment.Thank you.

When someone requests information, you answer, then nothing. Hmmm

Ropes is my passion and obsession. Hell in less than 3 weeks I am going to Japan to further study bondage and literally spending thousands on this simply to pursue it. What it take? Ropes, dedication, patience, love, skills, a capable bottom. Bondage, especially suspension is not sexual for me. Yes I may get a bit wet at time, but I don't have the urge to have sex or have an orgasm, but it is, extremely cathartic in it's own way. I get tied, I tied other and also tie myself. Tying/being tied is like a tango. It take two to dance, it's the same with ropes. You need to be in fusion and trust the person that is tying you. Sometime with your life. Tying myself in a way is the best therapy possible :D I can tie myself in a slow,sensual, comfortable suspension and enjoy it or if I am feeling stress, need to feel adrenaline, I can do a harsher tie to make my blood flow @piano8950 I'm going to use myself as an example. Here some pics :D Trusting someone with your life...If I didn'T trust the person that tied me this way, I would never let her do this. It's not something anyone can do It's trust, intimacy This is a self suspension :) ( I tied myself up in the air this way) Okay I'm out or I will never shut up about it

That's just a text message sent from the web. For example, Telus lets you send a text message to any Telus customer from this web page: http://www.telusmobility.com/en/NS/send_message/ When I text myself from this page it comes form 999-999-9999. Other carriers have similar features.

Saturday Lola 9-4 aka "lola" Charlie 9-9 aka "Traveling Charlie" Samantha 9-9 NEW aka "Naughty Samantha" Jamie 9-9 aka "Jamie-xo" Tiffany 4-9 aka "TiffanyXXXOOO" Sunday Jamie 10-9 aka "Jamie-xo" Cassie 10-9 aka "Sassie Cassie" Hannah 10-9 aka "Hannahxo" Monday Kaylee 9-9 NEW Summer 9-4 aka "SUMMER LOVE" Mandy 9-9 NEW aka "CandyMandy" Samantha 1-9 NEW aka "Naughty Samantha" Hannah 3:30-9 aka "Hannahxo" Tuesday Kaylee 9-9 NEW Summer 9-4 aka "SUMMER LOVE" Mandy 9-4 NEW aka "CandyMandy" Samantha 9-9 NEW ak "Naughty Samantha" Jamie 3:30-9 aka "Jamie-xo" Charlie 3:30-9 aka "Traveling Charlie" Wednesday Lola 9-11 aka "lola" Kaylee 9-11 NEW Summer 9-4 aka "SUMMER LOVE" Charlie 9-4 aka "Traveling Charlie" Samantha 3:30-11 aka "Naughty Samantha" Jamie 3:30-11 aka "Jamie-xo" Thursday Charlie 9-4 aka "Traveling Charlie" Samantha 9-11 NEW aka "Naughty Samantha" Crystal 9-4 aka "Crystal" Mandy 9-11 NEW aka "CandyMandy" Lola 3:30-11 aka "lola" Cassie 3:30-11 aka "Sassie Cassie" Friday Lola 9-11 aka "lola" Charlie 9-4 aka "Traveling Charlie" Summer 9-4 aka "SUMMER LOVE" Mandy 9-4 NEW aka "CandyMandy" Cassie 3:30-11 aka "Sassie Cassie" Samantha 3:30-11 NEW aka "Naughty Samantha" Jamie 3:30-11 aka "Jamie-xo" Saturday Lola 9-4 aka "lola" Kaylee 9-9 NEW Mandy 9-9 NEW aka "CandyMandy" Cassie 9-9 aka "Sassie Cassie" Jamie 3:30-9 aka "Jamie-xo" Sunday Jamie 10-9 aka "Jamie-xo" Cassie 10-9 aka "Sassie Cassie" Samantha 10-9 NEW aka "Naughty Samantha" Kaylee 10-9 NEW

I think it is because you are ignoring the things that are actually real issues and things that you should or could be needing to know, and focusing on things that happen once in a million encounters. Your question shouldn't really be a concern about where will you go if a client wants to report you to the front desk, but what to do if a client wants to try to make you do things that you don't offer in your sessions. What you do is make sure before the appointment is even booked that he completely understands what you do and do not offer, and how much the rate is. And what you do is, as mentioned above, keep the $$ and show him the door if he doesn't comply. He booked and showed up based on the conditions you laid out, he can leave if he wants to change them. And also, how likely do you think it is, that a guy who came into a hotel in order to see an sp, is now going downstairs to the front desk to tell them they have an sp in room 2012? And thus expose himself as the guy who just came from seeing an sp? Again, one in a million.

Yes there is a reason why LE have female officers pose as SWs. If the public solicitation only went one way, then all they would do is pose as clients and approach the sps. That actually rarely happens, I think, although they can arrest sps for public solicitation, they do seem to focus more on the client end. You can't even discuss solicitation, as someone points out well here, without considering the public part of the solicitation. You can't short cut it, and try to imagine does it or doesn't apply in one case or the other, once you remember you have to say it as a phrase "public solicitation". and once you do that you can realize that posting an ad doesn't apply, answering an enquiry someone has based on that ad doesn't apply, and so on. Also, do you have a reasonable expectation that your conversation is taking place in private, with only the two of you hearing and speaking? Then even that conversation cannot be considered public solicitation.

What's that saying? "...a time and a season for all things...". The depth of feeling you have about the companion you've lost is a perfect indicator of how fortunate you were for the experience in the first place, and to have had her company for the time that you did. That's one of those things in life; early on it keeps giving you new things and experiences, but over time you're forced to deal with the feelings when something, often completely out of our control, takes them away. It's always a hard transition, but I find that grief eventually gives way to that second sentiment of appreciation. And while it's common to feel like a lost partner was The One, that's not true... what you've really learned is that such experiences are possible for you, and while there's still time you should look for them again. Don't forget anything; that's never the point. Let your memories of what's possible motivate you into moving forward. I always hated it when people would make these kind of statements when I was in the midst of grief; it sounds so trite and almost like it's trying to trivialize the loss or the person I missed. But not so. Really it's just an assurance that you've had a wonderful human experience, and it's worth searching for again. You can absolutely recapture that feeling with someone new. But you need to put in some work to get there. That's one of life's great adventures. So you're Columbus and you discovered the Bahamas? Awesome! But now that's behind you, time for another voyage. Cuba and the Americas are waiting. I guess my only practical advice is: time. And to not stop trying with new people. And try not to let the shadow of your old experiences get in the way of appreciating the new ones while they're happening.

First be happy for her, that she is able to move on to the next stage in her life. Yes I'd miss her, but I would feel worse if she was continuing in this lifestyle when she really no longer wants to. Remember the good times and be happy she could retire. RG

Just got back from an hour session with Katrine and have to add my vote for her excellent service. Location is great for me as is in the Plateau area in Gatineau and her appartment is very pleasant, modern and appealing. I had a bit of a problem with the snow because of the latest storm but that is temporary and I got there fairly easily. As others have said, she is a very nice person, laid back and easygoing. She was a bit tired having just finished a 90 minute massage so she asked if I wanted to start by massaging her. Man, would I. I love to massage a beautiful woman , all over. She was relaxed and very responsive. I enjoyed kneading her muscles and caressing her immensely. Her body is toned as she works out a lot and her butt is to die for. No need to mention her other evident attributes as they are in your face.... She has beautiful skin, very soft and delicate. She is a great kisser. Her massaging skills are right up there. All the info is on her site and she is well reviewed. Just a great date. Merci Katrine pour un si beau moment.

Sweetshay's new profile pic is beyond belief! Except I can vouch for the fact that it's real. :)

$200 of gas. Damn SUV's and their big tanks!

I just bought lunch with my Dad:) was super good too, at Hilltop...I had Ruban sanwich on rye, OMG sooo good too:) They make thier own mustard that was the mosty tasty thing I have had in a long time! mmmmm... He got claims and chips:) Good lunch date:) hahhaha!

Hey zxc456, I'll be very straight up with you. Based on the nature of your questions so far and my reading of responding posts (specificly reading between the lines) there is some question related to wheather you're legit in your intentions. That said I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and provide some advice. I am a newbie myself albeit on the client side however I believe that seeking out and asking questions of experienced, knowledgeable people with expertise is ALWAYS a good idea. So you are doing what you should definately do, seek answers. However, the venue for some questions (like some of the ones you've asked in this and another post) may not be appropriate in a public forum like this one (I have noted that very experienced, successful SP's with alot to offer a newbie have point blank told you this). So I would suggest that you read the boards and determine an SP who's thoughts and opinions you feel you respect and tend to mirror yours and privately contact this SP and ask if they would be willing to address some of your questions. I assure you that based on my personal experience that cerb is filled with wonderful, interesting KNOWLEDGEABLE people and you will find a generous person who will be more than happy to help you. (plus they may be more forthcomming in a private conversation). Personally, I had some concerns and questions as a client before contacting an SP so I privately contacted a very experienced and respected hobbiest here on cerb who thankfully offered advice and opinions that addressed my concerns. Being new I did not want to request advice or speak my mind in an open forum as I was aware that in my ignorance (lack of knowledge) I could inadvertantly offend someone with my questions. It turns out that it was a good idea because I asked a innocent but offencive question that quite frankly would have put me in the dog house here on cerb and was informed of my error (oops!). There is a wealth of knowledge and experience here on cerb related to not just this industry but many aspects of life in general. Use it, but don't abuse anyones good nature or pass judgement in any way. I have discovered that there are many different approaches to operating in this industry each with their own unique benefits and pitfalls and each SP had chosen their approach based on what works for her. It's definately not a one size fits all for either the SP's or the clients so with some guideance from those "in-the -know" you'll find what works for you. Good luck from Chuck

Spraycan...if you're repeating in hopes of a happy ending, i wish you a lot of luck. Stephanies rmt skills and experience are excellent. Enjoy that skill she has. Do not initiate a happy ending. She is strictly professional, and good at what she does. I even think if you asked for a tease and denial you would be out the door, I'm in full belief, everything is strictly professional in her house. Let me know when your next appointment is, i want to watch the cops fly to her house. She's touch enough on her own handle any out of line guy. Tough and professional deep tissue. Best in home service in this city.

On the lighter side... Ever been stood up for a date? It's something I think we all hate When you're early and not even late? And you're ready to just penetrate? You called and confirmed You had planned to lose sperm! So to hell with it, go masturbate!

A doughnut and a double double coffee ...to keep myself curvy & happy! LOL @ PassionVito-you have a very hot body and I wish I had your discipline & motivation xo

If you're interested in offering this service, then the best promotion is probably to advertise that people with disabilities will be accepted with respect, communication, imagination and passion. As for training and education, I can recommend the book "The Ultimate Guide to Sex and Disability". It's available at online booksellers, and I believe locally at Venus Envy (http://venusenvy.ca/ultimate-guide-sex-and-disability). Venus Envy also regularly runs a sex and disability workshop (http://venusenvy.ca/events/everybodys-doing-it-talking-about-sex-and-disability-2013-03-26), although I have never attended, so can't comment on it. I'm not an expert in disability other than my own (incomplete spinal cord injury), but can tell you that there's a broad range of issues and some challenges to overcome. Mobility disabilities may require out-calls, positioning assistance - sometimes devices, sometimes lifting by yourself or an attendant. Your tantra chair would certainly be one form of assistive device for CPs, paras and quads that transfer themselves. Overcoming these sorts of challenges is where the imagination comes in. As with the able-bodied, things work better when take your time, ask questions about what works for them, and encourage frank communication! :-)

If you send an email to [email protected] (where the 10 digit cell phone number is a Telus customer) the contents of the email are sent as a text message from 999 999 9999 :)

15 pack of Coors Light.

Thought this was pretty funny What do you enjoy in a hand job?

Some may think my statement harsh but if you know you are dealing with a 16 yr old you deserve prosecution, thats a child. In my opinion 18 is to young, but thats just me. I know in Canada you are considered an adult at 18 but that is still a teenager, so is 19 . It is alot to expect teens to deal with adults in their 30's,40's, 50's and beyond. Although I realize everyone matures differently I can only think back when I was a teen and I know I wasn't an exception to how immature and unprepared they can be.

Budda also said, "What you think, you become" (avoid dwelling in negative thoughts, you'll attract negative things and experiences / constant positive thoughts create positive things and experiences) I've told a certain SP here that I'm sickenly positive as part of our getting to know each other. I'll let everyone else know now too ;) Something that I've adopted many years ago is always responding to the question of, "How are you?" with a resounding "Excellent!" Too often peoples typical response is something negative (I'm tired today etc.) or at best "ho-hum". I've found that this simple response usually catches people off guard and causes them to smile. A smile sets a positive tone for the remainder of your interaction. It's really just part of putting, "What you think , you become" into action. Works for me, try it! If it doesnt work, you're doing it wrong! Try again. Chuck

I know this post is going to cause some wrinkled up noses lol But I am frying up some Liver and Onions tonight :) mmmmm. I'm still unsure of baked or mashed potatoes but there will be broccoli and carrots :) now I'm getting hungry lol

One of my favorite quotes: Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible. -Dalai Lama

This has been covered elsewhere at least once, and is definitely not the norm. A professional provider will not text or call out of the blue - EVER! For those that think it's right to reply to a text sent hours ago, think again! If you missed the communication (text or phone call) by more than 10-15 minutes, it should be ignored and the client can retry again later when it is safe / convenient to be receiving a phone call or a text. #minirantdone

Dinner was a wash tonight. I had maple walnut ice cream and chicken wings.

Tonight will be mac & cheese again, but I'd better run and make some fresh breadcrumbs! In worse news, the St-Albert Cheese Factory burned down over the weekend. It may take the better part of a year to get them back up and running. Huge local employer! I heard something about their having a factory in Québec too, so hopefully we can continue to enjoy their cheese. But man. Too many fires out here.