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Gents: I am confused. I know, that is natural for me these days!!!! But I want to know, why do some of you ask questions about SP's that advertise on BP and are not on CERB? I am not a shill for CERB, but with so many beautiful ladies in our community, why would you look elsewhere? If you check out Cowboy Kenny's ongoing blog about fakes, many/most/all come from BP? Does BP offer CK's warnings.....NO! So do yourself a favour and just stick to CERB, and if you do want to take the risk and play with the SP's who advertise exclusively on BP, don't ask us who support the Ladies here on CERB. Just my opinion. TheLiquor

Hello and welcome! First, there are many SP's who will NOT do an outcall to a private residence unless they already know the client well enough to feel safe doing it. Every provider has their own view on this however this is a general majority comment. Secondly, without going into all the reasons, stigmas, legalities etc. an established and professional provider would not visit you while there are children present. This is not a case of being in a relationship and having a little fun behind closed doors, it does much deeper. I would not even ask a provider to do this as I expect you will be ignored from that point. It is not easy to find enjoyment when you are always "on duty" which means you have to be a little more creative, plan a little better etc. From your last comment, I also sense that you believe being in this hobby is not a good thing for you (your morality has gone astray since beginning). If that is the case, maybe you should ask yourself if this is the right place to be or to increase your knowledge on the industry and see how maybe your perceptions are skewed by stigma and societal crap. Providers give so much more and meet so many human needs that get disregarded by those outside the industry. Only you can determine what's good for you but at least make it a knowledgeable decision. Good Luck.

This is a board to recommend escorts whether they be here or anywhere. I think some of the issue comes from those who try to make this a great community by communicating, sharing etc. Also through inviting others they meet or see to join. In some ways, it's a safer place because there is more sharing of information and those here seem more serious because they are putting time and effort into their presence here. Some on BP are fly by night or short term. There is more of a risk because someone has to see them first. CERB may only allow positive comments so some reading between the lines is required IE: if you had a bad experience you wouldn't post a good reco. I would like to see more use of the B&S or warning sections and more reco's for those perhaps not on CERB. This way more people benefit from information without having to dig too much. There are a core of gents who prefer BP over CERB and would love to see more sharing outside the PM. I know there are those who don't like to post a reco or whatever, to me it seems in their best interest when it's someone outside CERB because it encourages more sharing among members seeing others which keeps everyone safe and also may encourage more quality SP's both here and in other places. We all give and take as we find fitting for ourselves, however in some ways, we should also have a bigger focus on the industry because it is what we do that keeps it vibrant and strong even when others try to slap it down.

There are a lot of ladies who advertise in both places, so I would think the gentlemen have the freedom to look in both places. I agree that Cerb offers "some" safety that BP does not, but the fact is, Cerb is also a community that does not allow any negative comments, so there is some uncertainty here also. The good thing is, if you dislike the questions about BP girls, you can simply ignore all threads about BP. You have that freedom, just like others have the freedom to do the opposite. This is a community for both the ladies and the gentlemen to share information, and I don't think that info has to be exclusive to Cerb.

I have been here since 2009 and just visited with a combo of the cutest, smartest and nice man I have met to date . When he left I had to ask myself if it really happened ? I do think it did because the sun just came out in Sydney .

Highlight #1. A couple photos I took on my smartphone when down east last year were lost (I thought) when my cat knocked my phone on the floor and smashed it. The lady I sent the photos to before cat smash time still had them and emailed copies back. Now safe in my computer. To that lady, THANK YOU!!! Highlight #2. Went to the mail today. I have been off for quite awhile from work before I had to put in for retirement. Well they miscalculated my leave used and existing leave balances. I had more leave than originally thought. So while I was off on leave w/o pay I really should have been on leave w pay. A cheque, over $2000.00 greeted me in the mail today :-) RG

I think it is possible for the OP to "surprise" his SO with an SP but not by having one jump out of the closet. As one of her gifts, present her with a document that says you wish to help her make this fantasy a reality if she so chooses. To that end, as a couple, you will determine the type of person she has dreamed about. Then, if she so wishes, you will seek out suitable candidates for her consideration. Should she find someone to her liking, she then has the option of helping to plan the session or she may agree to be "surprised" some evening (or morning or afternoon). I believe this approach avoids the serious pitfalls discussed earlier. Good luck!

I advertise on BP and have met wonderful clients , some can be difficult to deal with as with any site you choose to advertise on . Why are there so many questions about BP ? Lots of great answers and this is just one of many . Some donations asked for on BP are quite low , this is picked up and a pretty lady with a seemly wonderful rate is soon to be highly discussed . So for the person that is on a budget they will certainly find those lower donations on BP so it will make sense for them to search and shop there.

I think this is a valid question and will try to answer to the best of my understanding. Let's not forget that many of the spa's, agencies and independent ladies advertise on BP as well as other venues. There are people that only search the classifieds. That's how I like to think of BP. It's the online alternative to a newspaper and another place to advertise. Perhaps they become members of Cerb or maybe they are not interested at all? It takes a certain time commitment to be a part of a forum and that may not be something everyone is interested in. It doesn't mean they are not up to a certain standard if they prefer to not join. I think it's fair to ask questions here if they are helping others to make informed decisions. If we limit information and are not welcoming to new or potential members, the board does not prosper. My take, :)

I had a client neglect to tell me his kids were asleep until after I got there. Needless to say I was not impressed. I always ask if we will be alone and that includes minors. I love children but in this business it is not a good thing flip the coin. How would you feel if you went to her incall and found out she had children in the other room. Would you feel comfortable? What would social services say if they found out? I agree with Traci, there are ways to do this without the children being present (even if they are asleep - they can wake up). Good luck.

I would suggest registering to preferred411. This site verifies you and the ladies appreciate it very much. You can get " Okay" from ladies on P411...Okay means a lady as seen you and vouches for you! Date-check and room service 2000 (RS2K) arre good site to register too as well. RS2K is very well known in Chicago...give i a try :) Enjoy! Bianca

There is so much hilarity in this case. I can't stop reading AND laughing at this. I love judges who can write oh so well. Lol http://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/doc/2014/2014onsc3061/2014onsc3061.html

Came across a newish county style restaurant while driving through some country roads and had a great meal. :) (actually I was lost but won't admit it)

Just my probably ill-informed opinion but i think some guys are attracted to BP and CL because they live in areas where CERB ladies are not always available buy also because rates for some BP and CL ladies can be lower... i have always lived by the motto... you get what you pay for lololol Just my opinion

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I agree with the others...your home may not be the best place for an outcall if your married....but meagan's advice about bookig a room is a good idea... And yes...an established SP (newbie friendly) would be te way to go...there are lots of wonderful ladies out there that would make you feel very at ease ;) Bianca

Sometimes I have wondered the same, but then thought, hmmm, perhaps by meeting and giving ladies that are not on cerb a chance, perhaps one would suggest to join and become active here, thus allowing cerb to grow in numbers:) We all started somewhere, CL or BP Sexy E ads, etc...like myself:) But I found my community here, and now has been 4 year love affair with cerb:) One thing I do notice that kinda sucks, is I see the same gents over and over complaining they are always getting ripped off, etc...but yet continue to ask about BP or CL on a regular basis, and yet see not one reco of cerb lady in their statistics, lol have no clue why you would keep doing that to your self, haha.

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I loved watching Justin Ling (on twitter) critiquing Dechert's authority on the issue and mocking him for keep bringing up the fact he is a "lawyer" which Dechert mentioned many times during the committee hearings. Basically, Dechert is a dick.

You would be surprised what they look for at the border and if they think you will be up to illegal actives during your visit they will decline you entry - sounds stupid however they have done it in the past and will do it in the future.

First there is an old saying, even a gilded cage is still a cage. And a lady has a life outside of being a professional companion. Being a professional companion, irrespective of how social and interpersonal an occupation it is, is still for the lady her livelihood, her job. And being with a billionaire, who books for x hours, time is up, peels off a few more bills, wants xx hours more, then when that time is up wants xxx hours more, I don't think anyone would like that The billionaire is making her continue her job indefinitely based solely on his whims. If a set time is booked is one thing, but indefinitely extending it is another. And maybe the lady has only one client a day, she doesn't see multiple clients in a day. Because that is what she prefers and how she runs her business (just don't assume all ladies see clients one after the other) A lady has a life outside of being a companion. She may have family, friends, going to school, another job. She presents the illusion of someone free with no outside responsibilities and obligations but she like everyone has a life outside of this lifestyle Would you like to work, then at the end of your work day, get thrown a bit more money, but you have to work more, then at the end of that more bills peeled off, but you stay longer at work and so on, based on the whims of a boss who is a billionaire. Finally, for a getaway, an overnight, it is something planned. It is beyond just getting a hotel room and staying locked in 24/7. You have to have something planned, depending for how long the getaway is, a few things planned. And she will want some "her" time too. Point to this, at the end of the getaway she may have had enough of the clients company (he still is her client) and wants to leave. She may just want to go home. She does have a life outside of being an escort. Peeling more money off to extend a getaway may not appeal to a lady and doesn't stop her outside responsibilities. My guess and generalizing no, irrespective of billionaire or not, a lady won't indefinitely stay with him, at his whim. Extending a date an hour or two is one thing, but indefinite extending, I don't see anyone liking that A long winded convoluted rambling Hope it answers your question RG

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Petey's parliamentary secretary Bob Dechert debated Francoise Boivin (NDP) this morning. Go to http://www.cbc.ca/thehouse/podcasts/ He asserts that the bill allows escorts to advertise, rent space, and hire receptionists and bodyguards within normal commercial parameters. He also says any purchase of sex will be illegal. He sees no paradox. How can anyone reason with such insane mentality? Definitely worth listening to!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/beverley-mclachlin-chief-justice-deserves-apology-from-pm-international-jurists-say-1.2718342

Didn't this question just get answered a little while ago? The pictures are of Jessy Erinn, who is NOT an escort and not who you will be seeing if you call that number. Here's a link: http://sexyblock.com/jessy-erinn-is-a-total-hottie/

Unfortunately it will be good practice for December in Canada.

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Don't call someone home. Some SPs have mentioned a bad time going to a married client's house and then having an uncomfortable situation when an SO comes home unexpectedly. Find a reputable SP. Use this link - http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=162 Read reviews, read until you are bored of reading, till you find some sort of satisfaction or piece of mind. If you're like me, the first time is going to be a bit nerve-racking. Find a well established, well reviewed SP, you will be better off.

I asked this question a few years back, sort of thought we should be supporting CERB ladies. But as was correctly pointed out, CERB is an "escort" recommendation board, not just a "cerb escort" recommendation board, and escorts even if not on CERB if recommendation worthy should be mentioned That said, and maybe I've been lucky, or, I don't know, but the CERB ladies (except one) have all been recommendation worthy dates. None of the dates from sites other than CERB I have been able to write recommendations about. And now, I solely support the ladies of CERB One thing, if you see a non CERB lady and she is a good companion, let her know about CERB A rambling RG

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Well seeing as he would be going to the United States, not a CERB bookmark so much, although it may raise eyebrows. But how about escort boards from the United States, ladies' websites and email contact, checking any email correspondence, both sent and received, looking at your contacts list on your phone to see if any escorts are on there...anything that might indicate you are going to be seeing a escort while in the United States. That just might deny you entry, at the very least. That's what I'd feel is incriminating, and besides not discrete on the person's part crossing the border, has a spin off effect, people on his contacts list may be contacted too RG

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Although I have never been with an SP, I totally understand that it's business deal/appointment. Thanks for the reminder... I'm still undecided for a couple of other reasons...

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TER is pretty good. But as prostitution is totally illegal in the states, I would stick with well-reviewed independant and don't go on BP. Also you will most likely be ask to provided some references or type of verification

I was given this advice (talk to her first) and was glad to have listened to it. My wife and I have been 'joking' (flirting?) about bringing a second woman into the bedroom for almost 20 years, following up a near threesome we had when we first starting dating (yes, alcohol was involved). I thought about the surprise idea, and started to even put some feelers out, and it was pretty universally felt that I couldn't just surprise her, we had to talk about it first. And I am really glad I did. Not because she wasn't interested (which I think was my worry), but because she has a pretty big idea about who we would be bringing into our bedroom. Matching sizes (she is not a size two), matching ages (we're in our 40s, would want the same), etc. Long story short, talking to her not only meant avoiding what could have been very uncomfortable / awkward, now it is even cooler because she is part of picking out our potential partner. We are going out to restaurants, and saying things like "how about someone like her", "she is pretty, yeah I would be great with someone like her"; which is all a pretty big turn on in its own right. Just my (our) two cents.

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Darling bigboi, I certainly understand your concern and I agree with the other posters advice. What I would like to mention is that it is difficult to identify let alone define a pimp and most people wouldn't recognize one if they passed one on the street unless the pimp was very stereotypical and we all know how reliable stereotypes are. The other thing to keep in mind is you can potentially have drama from a provider whether she is completely independent or not. I would gently suggest not over thinking the labels and simply educate yourself about the providers available to you here in Ottawa. There is a huge selection of well reviewed providers for you to choose from here on Cerb or if perusing one of the other sites, take a peek at what CK says... http://www.cowboysdiary.info Smiles, cat

Try looking for escorts who have been around a long time and are mature. Pimps go after new and young ladies. Try ladies who speak and write English fluently. Try ladies who drive themselves to dates. Independent ladies exhibit independent behavior in more ways than one.

Loneliness and being alone are often two entirely different things! Good to keep this in mind.

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What about a mistress on the side where the apartment is paid for and all utilities and food. And is usually called the other woman. It is a long term relationship with no commitment, because you know he's not going to leave his wife. Question is she selling her body for sex, because if she doesn't put out she's going to lose the apartment. Question of the day? This would effect a small percentage of politicians also. they could be charged under this bill.

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I really like this question. I don't have a complete answer. But the main thing: seduction is an activity performed upon the mind of the subject, not the body. Everyone's concept of sexuality sits within a complex web of mental associations -- some of them common, some unique. These associations aren't about how sex is done; it's about what sex means to that person. It's about who they think they are sexually, what they desire, what they think sex promises for them, what they'll admit to and what they won't, what they're eager for and what they're afraid of. Tug on those threads, and you trigger deep responses not just about sex but about identity. Seduction is about pulling gently on those threads, and the better you know the person (or can predict them), the more effective the seduction will be. Ultimately you're creating an intensely sexual state of mind. But it's not just about making sex happen, but about making the subject want that sex to happen, so that they invest themselves fully and deeply in what follows.

Eat It Right By Dan Savage http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid=6290 ___________________________ I got 500 letters from straight women with advice for men on the whole pussy-eating subject. Why haven't these letters appeared in this column? Well, I have a bias: I'm gay. Given a choice between reading hundreds of e-mails about eating pussy or, say, talking to a good-looking male porn star about his online underwear sales, well, I'm going to go with the porn star every time. While I'm aware that reading about cunnilingus is one of my occupational hazards (along with handling letters from people who eat poo), that awareness doesn't make me any less reluctant to do so. Don't get me wrong, ladies. I am all for cunnilingus. Straight men, in my opinion, are obligated to provide it. I'm as pro-cunnilingus as a gay man can get, but I guess you could say I'm pro-cunnilingus in the abstract. I'm pro-eating pussy in the same way I'm, say, pro-round-the-clock home nursing for incontinent paraplegics: I'm glad it happens, I just don't want to do it. But... I promised you a cunnilingus column, SGAFP, and a cunnilingus column you shall have. But what about my gay male readers? Columns about cunnilingus have something to offer straight men, straight women, and lesbians, but NOTHING to offer gay men. So to give my gay male readers a reason to slog through this column, I've included an item of particular interest to gay men. Okay, here are your cunnilingus tips, boys! Whatever you do, DO NOT use your teeth! Also try to keep the saliva down to a minimum. Been There Got it, boys? No teeth, and very little saliva. SALIVA, SALIVA, SALIVA: I can't overemphasize the importance of plenty of lubrication. Cumming from Cunnilingus No, wait--use saliva, boys, and lots of it. But no teeth. The word cunnilingus derives from two Latin words: cunnus (female genitals) and lingere (to lick). But the action should include not only the tongue, but the teeth. Tongue: soft, yet firm. Teeth: Nibble around down there! Pussy Prof No, wait--use your teeth to nibble, boys. I don't think it's necessary for a guy to spend much time in any other area than the clitoris. It's the Clit Focus on the clit, boys. A clit is not a doorbell. Please do not punch it repeatedly with your tongue. And explore the rest of my pussy. It has just as many sensitive nerve endings as my clit. Word of the Day No, wait--explore the whole pussy, boys. As a closeted gay college student, I turned to my straight friends for guidance on "the deed," and one bit of advice actually worked: Lick the alphabet! One word of caution: SHE CAN'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING! It is disastrous to let her hear you humming the alphabet song. This could imply that you are not sufficiently stimulated by her parts, as was the case with me. ABC Lick the alphabet, boys, but don't let her know you're licking the alphabet. I dated a guy who used "the alphabet song" to guide him along. Basically, he hummed the "A, B, C, D, E, F, G... H, I, J, K, LMNOP..." song while drawing the letters with his tongue on my clit. Now every time I hear the alphabet song I get wet! Alphabet Soup No, wait. Tell her you're licking the alphabet, and she'll get wet when she hears the alphabet song. Guys, don't slide your tongues in and out of our vaginas. All that feels like is a small, thin, limp dick. Most women don't like small, limp dicks, so why simulate one with your tongue? Clitty McNub Don't stick your tongues in, boys. A French guy once stuck his tongue in and swirled it around, pushing it really hard against the walls of my vagina. It was amazing. The American guys I've slept with tend to lap politely. I guess this must be one of those things the French come up with in their six weeks of annual paid vacation. French Kissed No, wait--stick your tongues in the vaginal canal, boys. So many guys are obsessed with penetration that they can't eat pussy without sticking their fingers in. Fellas, please, just lick me. Lick It Don't Stick It No fingers, boys, just tongue. Men need to know that the G-spot is located behind the ridge of the pubis bone, up and inside her vagina. Take your hand palm up, insert middle and pointer fingers, curl your fingers toward you like you're saying, "Come here." Do this while you lick, and she'll come right then and there. East Bay Hard Core No, wait--use your fingers and tongue, boys. Okay, let's review what we've learned: Use little saliva; use lots of saliva; use your teeth; don't use your teeth; focus on the clit; explore the whole pussy; lick the alphabet but don't tell her; lick the alphabet and tell her; don't stick your tongue in; stick your tongue in; don't stick your fingers in; stick your fingers in. I hope this was helpful. Of course, if it wasn't--if this column left you more confused--you might try ASKING THE WOMAN TO TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT SHE LIKES. Personally, two things kept coming up while I was reading my 500 e-mails about cunnilingus: my lunch, and the sneaking suspicion that not all women enjoy the same things when it comes to oral sex. So, boys, you'll have to ask. ____________________________ Seriously though, every woman is different and enjoys different kinds of stimulation :) However, here is a few links about DATY, which had some ideas and basic guidelines I thought were decent. :) http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?625-Advanced-Cunnilingus-Techniques http://dodsonandross.com/blogs/lilithland/2011/03/tutorial-performing-oral-sex-woman And one from our own NotchJohnson here on CERB: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=61539&highlight=daty And another amazing thread from Emiafish about DATY: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=118406