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I am not going to comment on the main issue at hand but I will address the following: Nobody wants to pay "any of us" just to "hang out"? lol Actually, just so you know, and speaking from experience, the so-called legal loophole you are talking about is called GFE companionship which many ladies offer, myself included; many gentlemen like to partake in experiences that involve a whole lot more than just a list of acronyms with sex acts while spending time with a lady. Some even schedule social dates that don't even included any intimacy. Imagine that ;)

The 4th post in this thread quoted the entire original post. So if someone has come to this discussion late and wonders what Jessica is talking about, go there. On topic, my take is Life Happens. If you play at this for a long time, something like the OP's experience is bound to happen. Oh, and you'll get farted on mid-DATY. Have a chuckle at the absurdity of life and move on. And leave the donation.

I think it's unrealistic to expect a provider to take a week off every month given the prices here in Canada. Can anyone imagine losing 25% of their income due to an unavoidable, naturally occurring event? In the past I have worked thru my period and never had an issue. Some clients I informed if I knew they may have an issue, others I didn't. I've used sponges for most of my career because penetration often caused break thru bleeding which was not part of my menstrual cycle. Life happens, especially during sex. Obviously the provider needed the income or she wouldn't have been working thru her cycle. Taking the donation back certainly gives clear indication of character and shows someones view of providers clearly. I for one, appreciate when clients post situations like this and their reaction to it as it allows me to see who they are... cat

Yes, let's be honest: we're all here because we love sex and this community revolves around it BUT my point earlier was that for some people, it is not just about sex. This is where the GFE companionship comes in. Your comment about nobody wanting to pay "any of us" just to "hang out" is solely based on your own personal views and feelings and not in the least bit accurate. Not to highjack this thread further, I will not even comment on the "depressing" part of a gentleman seeking companionship...

I'm not trying to trivialize or overstate things here, but permit me to offer an analgous situation I had a few years ago. I met with an SP (non CERB) for a short notice redezvous for the first time. She apologized and said she had folishly got a significant sun burn on her stomach and said that certain positions and activities were going to be off limits and gave me the option of trying things out or rescheduling the appointment. I very much appreciated her consideration, elected to continue with the appointment and making it a bit of a challenge to enjoy the situation and work with what we had. The "challenge" worked well aside from being rushed (I think she was new to the business). Having said that I appreciated her honesty. The long and short of it is that as long as there is honestly between the SP and client about anything which could materially affect the rendezvous, it should be discussed beforehand IMHO anyways.

In my experience, the only way a sponge will dislodge is thru aggressive, deep fingering... cat

Imo, a true gentleman would not bring this onto a board but that's just me despite the fact that you didn't disclose her name. This is something that is a natural occurrence and what if she happened to just get her period at that moment? Would you still treat her the same way? Yes, lots of woman use the sponge while on their period and most of us can't afford to take a week off. I am fortunate not to have long heavy periods anymore. More like 3 days now. Usually during this time I will feel not in good spirits anyways and take time off because I'm not in the mood. However, I've used them and if inserted correctly no one can detect it or blood for that matter. The only way for it to be noticed would be through forceful, painful fingering to the extreme which I don't allow or if not inserted properly. Nothing usually gets past that sponge. Never once did I have this happen to this degree but I did start my period while with a client and I was never treated this way. What happened for this to dislodge like that? If people want to think this is dishonesty then that's their opinion. Will I punish a guy because he just urinated and wants a bj? No I wouldn't embarrass them like that. I would do what's necessary to make sure they are fresh. It is your decision to either stay or leave and you have your opinion about menstural periods but I don't think there was a need for such dramatics. I think this could have been handled a lot better. Did you ever think for one moment how she felt? The word humiliated comes to mind. Perhaps she has no choice but to work during this time and never intended for this to happen. Instead of solely thinking how you think she possibly tricked or betrayed you for cash, think about the other person for a moment. This isn't just any unsatisfactory customer service complaint at a store, restuarant, etc. We're talking about a private intimate transaction between two people and it should be handled delicately. Not so much now.

Ok -- there are a few things that jumped out at me as I read this thread, both the OP post and the comments. 1. A woman needs to disclose when it's that time of the month? That seems awfully private, and extreme. 2. Women in this industry REGULARLY, and SUCCESSFULLY, work through their period with things such as sponges or soft cups. It happens ALL the time. 3. How mortified this poor woman must have felt by the completely immature way you reacted. Clearly the sponge became dislodged. And you know what? Menstruation is a fact of life. She didn't know that happened, or mean for it to. She's likely worked through her period COUNTLESS times with no issue. 4. Asking women to not work during their period is ridiculous. 5. Taking the donation and insulting her further by leaving $40?!!?!! It was an unfortunate incident that wasn't planned. It was dealt with poorly by you, and that poor woman wasn't given a chance to correct the situation -- and then ALSO had to lose out on her pay for that booking? Complete and utter disrespect. SO much wrong with this!!!!!!

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My thoughts, I may catch some flak for this but I think if you are offering your time AND your body, it is only proper and professional to tell the client when your monthly appears and give him the respect of choosing what he wants to do. When you do not disclose this information, you are essentially taking away that person's choice and in this manner, their informed consent to sexual services. That is not a risk I am willing to take with someone for the sake of a few bucks. I do wish the OP would have kept in his post the part about taking the money back. Taking that out of the original post seems a little shady in my opinion.

You basic understanding is accurate and this is a really good question. Thank you for asking. I believe playing during a period changes the risk factors negligibly when handled correctly. Periods can cycle anywhere from 14 to a 40 day cycle, lasting 1 to 14 days and the flow varies depending on the woman's hormone cycle. Some women cramp, some don't. For some, sex is intolerably painful during menses, for others it relieves cramps. Tampons, pads, keepers and cups can be used when not having sexual intercourse but sponges can used when playing. Simply put, the sponges act like tampons without interfering with penetration. If men would be more open minded to using a dental dam and play safely then this would be a moot conversation. For me the bottom line is the only responsible play utilizes barrier methods for all acts that have the potential for the exchange of bodily fluids. If a man balks at using a dental dam but insists on daty with a woman knowing that she is a fertile, healthy potentially menstruating woman, then he assumes the risk that she may in fact be menstruating, getting ready to menstruate so the actual act could bring it on or she could have just ceased bleeding and there may still be blood traces hiding in her uterus that could be released during the function of lubrication during a rendezvous. I think that heterosexual men need to understand the amazing biology of the female reproductive cycle so for more information, those with more questions can further research it online... cat

I read this thread very late last night and I wanted to reply with a clear mind...I guess you have a right to be disgusted...everybody reacts differently to that situation... There is something though that bothers me and really ticked me off here is that you took the donation and left 40$! Thats what bothers me the most...I'm sure there will be lots of different opinions on this issue but if you decide to leave because you are disgusted with the situation, the donation should stay there...yes maybe she should have been upfront about it but, for me, its not a reason to take the donation and barely leave Pocket change... Personally i do work with sponges ( for what I have left of period lol) and there is no way you could ever tell coz they are really deep in there. But yes I started my period many times during sessions...that i could not predict... Just my opinion... BJ

I haven't heard that term since grade 5 sex education. Except the school nurse called it the curse.

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The girl should be cut A LOT of slack. I know how terrifying, how much of a hurdle, seeing my first SP was. So I can only imagine how terrifying this first time must have been for the lady. To compound her already existing fear with what happened, well it must have been horrible for her. There have been ladies in my early days of this lifestyle who gave me tips and advice on how to be a good client, and in part that's why I'm the client I am today. Clients, especially experienced clients might want to consider when they see a lady new to this lifestyle doing the same. Respectful advice given to someone new from someone experienced is always appreciated. No one's first time is perfect. But now, the memory of her first time is a bad memory, a nightmare. Someone is owed an apology here by the sounds of it, and it doesn't seem it's the OP that's owed one Anyhow a rambling RG

I think one of the first things she might want to enact is her body her rules. Just because a number of things are considered to be requirements in appts, doesn't mean that she has to do all of those things. In this situation, it would have been best to say no to digits. In many cases, men are too rough, and in some cases, women can get infections simply by offering that service. It is easy to add services and activities to a more limited menu, but it is very difficult to remove them. If she had a few more restrictions, she would be able to allow those things for repeat clients or for new clients who are able to show they can be trusted to do them. If you are working with her, showing her the ropes, so to speak, or on terms with her to talk about these things, this is good info for her to have. She doesn't have to do things that put her health or safety at risk just because all the cool kids are doing it, :) The first thing new sps need to learn is how to say no. It is unfortunate that her first experience should have been such a scary one. But saying no is important

A certain lady I see on a somewhat regular basis did something recently that has put a smile on my face for the last few days. I had booked an appointment at the end of my day so I didn't have to go for meetings and boring stuff after. She knew that I prefer booking things so that I am unrestricted for time if there is a bit of a delay. A short time before we were to start, she tells me that she was getting delayed, apologized asked me if we could start a bit late. I had my laptop, so I went to a cafe close by and just browsed a bit. After I left her place, she texted me, and let me know that she put in some money in my bag to apologize for being late. She once tried to return money because I left earlier on a different occasion (long story, I thought I had stayed over my time, while I actually had about 30 min left), and I refused, so I think she decided this way I'd have no option but to accept it. It was completely unnecessary, but a nice gesture that made my weekend. Thought I'd share.

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Airing out dirt laundry is not allowed but discussion on this topic is permitted. If the name of the lady is not released (private or public) then we will allow this discussion to continue.... If the ladies name is released i will issue infractions and possibly suspension/bans

It's against cerb rules to air your dirty laundry in public. You know full well guys will be pm'ing you to ask who the lady is. Not cool.

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Hi there, been on Cerb for a bit, but this is my first post. I'm throwing my two cents in here, since the situation that occured is not as the OP described(no, I'm not the one he is talking about). While I wholeheartedly agree that you should inform the client when you are on your period, and allow them to decide whether or not to continue with the appointment. The girl in question was brand spanking new, scared out of her wits since she had never done any sort of escorting before, and to top it all off, she unexpectedly gets her period RIGHT when her client(the OP) is supposed to show up. When the OP found out about the sponge, he was angry, which is not an inappropraite response to have. What is inappropriate, however, is that he yelled at her, took all of the money back, and threw a few twenties in her face while he stormed out. This poor girl was unbelievably upset, especially since this was the first escorting experience she had ever had. Yes, I do believe we should discuss this with the clients ahead of time, I think that's just being respectful to them; but it is not okay to take your money from her, after already spending a significant amount of time, and treating her in such a degrading manner. All-in-all, had she been in the business for a bit, I'd absolutely say she should have known better, but the fact the it was her first day, AND first client, and she was treated so rudely, I'd say let's cut the girl some slack.

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Just thinking of the safety issue reminded me of the Tim Bosma case lured away under guise of a test drive http://globalnews.ca/news/560553/tim-bosma-a-timeline-of-the-police-investigation/ Maybe this could be something similar (not saying it is) They might be scheming something Or not that but want face pics, for what? Some might think the obvious, but what if they are trying to confirm your identity for nefarious purposes. They are asking an awful lot from you...what do you know about them RG

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You could set a fee for this that if you want to, comes off the session fee. or 50% of it is deducted from the session fee. YOu have to keep in mind that you cannot meet in a public place and discuss rates and services anyway, so if that is their intention, you can simply decline by pointing that it is considered 'public solicitation' which you and they would be guilty of it you agreed, and the discussion took a turn towards fees or services. A few things come to mind with these kinds of enquiries. One has been mentioned: the picture collector. They want all your info, but provide none. They want a face pic, then arrange for you to show up somewhere, they know what you look like, but you don't know if they are watching you from somewhere, what you drove, etc. Don't do it. The other thing that I suggest is it is supposed to be a couple. You have to speak (on the phone in other words) to both halves of this couple. you have to verify that it is actually a couple. You have to verify that she really is on board with this and not just 'going along'.

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I always clear all texts/contact info from my hobby phone immediately. This week I made a different mistake that could have caused problems for a lady and was thoughtlessly indiscreet: When Cleo opened the door to welcome me I eagerly said "Hello Cleo" before she had had a chance to close the door.... she graciously, and with a smile, cautioned me to NEVER DO THIS! I should have known better (and I'm not sure that I had ever thought of this before) but regardless my enthusiasm for seeing her took over. Discretion is a two way street and you ladies are truly professional about ensuring it. You all deserve the same. Cleo: thanks for the reminder. Nicolette: I'm sorry this happened to you and thank you for posting about it.

Further and as afterthoughts to you . If you are not aware these things happen . I feel badly you were put in a position that perhaps horrified you in this way. Please just be assured that we never, ever want this type of thing to happen but..... it does . Is has happened before and it always will in the future. This certainly can't parallel to what happened to you but it has happened in my personal life and perhaps it was not met with total appreciation. Here is my answer and its quite " pat" I am a woman and yes blood comes out of my vagina on a monthly basics , you need to expect this and if not perhaps a MTM would be better for you. Please I am not trying to diminish your situation but this is life. I try really hard to make sure my dates are stress free and without trouble . But oh my I am constantly reminded and shown things rarely turn out how I plan . Soo, I have learned to smile and sometimes be embarrassed but at the end of the day I am a fragile human being. I hope this helps ! xo

Just one more thought from me on this issue. Funny how issues evolve . I had unexpected spotting today which can happen at any time with us woman. I was somewhat embarrassed but treated it lightly and it was taken just as lightly. Accidents happens , gosh while making love one can need to pee and God forbid we fart. |We are human beings and the unexpected functions happens at times and as adults I am able to laugh these accidents off. All this is really small compared to the issue at hand. End of day, all women menstruate. Is this sexy ? Not necessarily so unless you have a fetish that makes it really desirable. I really think end of day, just be honest. If you are having your period and using a sponge tell your guest, then its his decision and all stress is taken away . Easy , honesty goes around the world and back. Now I am trying to think of a parallel situation that a gent may want to share with us to make the date stress free . Both men and women have an obligation to disclose anything that would make a date uncomfortable for either so lets just be honest and talk. August 16th, 2014 . No need for surprises that are unpleasant.

Much of this industry revolves around the revelation of things that are generally considered private, from the revealing photos and self-descriptions posted my many (if not most) providers, to the very detailed reviews and recommendations posted by their clients, to the questions and answers about what may or may not take place during an encounter. This doesn't strike me as being any worse than a lot of other stuff that's just accepted as part of the way the business operates. But then, I'm a guy and nobody's paying much attention to my body on a daily basis, so I may simply not understand... Fair enough. And when it works well and the client is none the wiser... no harm, no foul. But there's a chance that things might not go so smoothly, and in this case having been up-front about it would probably have been the better option. It's up to each individual lady to decide for herself what the chances are of things slipping, and what the consequences might be, and therefore whether or not to disclose things in advance. Perhaps guys who feel very strongly about this should mention it when booking so that they can delay until next week if need be, but that opens the door to a whole other pile of awkward... Three things on this. The first is to simply note that there are some folks out there who don't deal with blood at all well, irrespective of its origin. Second, there's the health angle. No encounter is risk-free from this point of view, and we all make our own decisions about what level of risk we are or are not prepared to accept... but I don't think most of us consider blood-exposure when doing so. Saliva, sweat, semen, vaginal mucus? Yes, all the time. But urine and feces and blood are not things that most of us would expect to encounter unless something had been explicitly arranged. And of those, blood is by far the most efficient at transferring pathogens. It opens up a whole load of new things to worry about, including many things that aren't usually considered STIs. It doesn't strike me as unreasonable to be unhappy if a health-risk that you hadn't expected is suddenly thrown at you, no matter what sex you are or which side of the client-provider relationship you're on. Finally, to quote the OP: "I felt something touch my lip I moved back to find a bloody spunge slipping out of the ladies vagina." I've never had anything remotely like that happen to me, and I can't honestly say I'd react gracefully if it did. Reactions to this sort of thing are likely to be immediate, visceral, and not the result of some well-thought-out reasoning. It's not clear to me that calling the OP immature is either reasonable or helpful.

Well said Miss Lane. I'd say also that the SP disclosing the fact in advance would probably be best, to allow the client to make an informed choice to receive the service, which could alleviate any potential self-consciousness on the part of the SP to provide her time and service. Consent is everything.

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I have no input whatsoever but just wanted to say this thread sounds pretty interesting to me as a duo of any sort is something I've yet to experience, either in my personal life or as a hobbyiest. Sad, I know lol. But it's something I've always wanted to try. But if I was to say anything I would say Angela's descriptions sound pretty logical. Posted via Mobile Device