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I will carry on as I have always done. The sooner the bill is challenged the better. I doubt that it will be me involved but I will be supportive. If it is to be me: Bring it on!

Yup...

I expect apartment buildings to have a locked door with an intercom system. I also assume I am on camera in the lobby. (Nothing illegal is taking place in the lobby.) This is standard and I have no issue with this. If you are talking about a doorman (doorperson?) and having to indicate the person you are visiting, that would likely make me uncomfortable, (and would likely cause suspicion for the SP after a while) but intercoms are standard and safer for all involved. No issue there for me.

The same holds true of companions and prospective clients in this lifestyle. Yes, the client is ALWAYS right, but the companion decides who will be her clients. Just seemed appropriate for this thread RG :-)

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I suspect that if she had behaved "like a lady" she would never have made the news. I might not agree with her methods that day, however without her the law would not have been struck down. I found the senators were in fact the idiots. Thank you Ms Bedford.

Terri Jean Bedford has caused a stir and issued a threat as may be seen HERE, and isn`t it of interest that the hearings are back on the news again. I sincerely and respectfully disagree with the comments that were written about that article arguing that her action is wrong and unprofessional and unethical. I gave this opinion once before when the topic was in the news and the silence was understandably deafening, but I shall repeat it. IF someone truly believes that Bill C-36 will cause physical harm and or death to even one sex worker, then I argue that taking whatever legal action is required to prevent that from happening is not only acceptable but also a responsibility. If that includes naming a client then so be it. If I threatened a sex worker with physical harm then the fact that I had been a paying client should NOT give me immunity. Threatening to release the names of clients who are planning an action that will kill women is not enough. Doing it after the bill is passed is irresponsible. I argue that if her statements are true then the information should be released immediately to the press before the law is passed and then let the press do the job that they have thus far chosen not to do. Their are ways to do it. In 1974 Deep Throat, whoever he is is unknown to this day, along with press investigation brought down a presidency. I do believe that the hypocrisy of some of these government members, NOT their use of legal sex workers, could cause this government to fall, and this bill along with it. I am writing a totally politically incorrect comment that most will disagree with. I know that. There is no way that any sex worker or perhaps any client should publicly agree with this. All I ask is that all sex workers ask themselves where does client privilege stop and protecting your own life and lives of fellow sex workers begin. Sorry if I made anyone feel uncomfortable. I don`t think that this is just a game if lives are on the line. MN2 (who apparently is not such a nice guy.)

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Next Senate meeting on bill C-36: 17 September http://www.parl.gc.ca/SenCommitteeBusiness/Notice.aspx?parl=41&ses=2&comm_id=11&Language=E&meeting_id=15415

Everyone Hugs made my day. Today is a great one. Thanks everyone. Hugs to everyone who needs one - even if you don't realize you need one.

Went out for a morning walk...damn it is cold, and now rain spitting down But I digress Cold weather calls for the slow cooker So on my walk went to the grocery store, picked up a pork roast, sauerkraut and a few other odds and ends, and for dinner, pork roast with sauerkraut in the slow cooker, with enough for meals for the next few days Dinner at 6pm YUM RG

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Her influence on the public, and the media, is exactly why she did what she did. She knew as well as any pro sex work presenter that these proceedings are nonsense, time wasting, and won't affect the outcome. The con senators also made that very very apparent with their own comments and questions. It is like they created the bill, and they are MPs, they are supposed to be senators not party mouthpieces. it was basically a waste of time for most anti c36s, when we have people there talking about situations that have nothing to do with adult consensual sex work (i.e. pedo sex abuse rings in the 90s, or a daughter who was abused by a classmate when she is in grade 9, and ends up with a bf doing sex work to pay for their drugs, then dies again at the hands of the BF, which again has nothing to do with adult consenting sex workers. C36 is meant to curb the income and ability of adult consenting sex workers to work, it has little to do with sexual assault victims, evangelical church goers, or preteens in group homes being forced to provide sexual services to pedophiles. The hearings were repeated on Saturday, and i saw a piece of it with Bedford, but got interrupted. the first time i didn't realize i'd been watching when she was answering questions, mostly because i flipped forward thru Benedet's talking head and missed it. I note that when she mentioned Duffy, that comment was her final one for many minutes, until she got a new question. So in the quote above article, everything after Mike Duffy, she did not say, at least not at that time. And after she said "......Mike Duffy', she threw down her pen, no whip. the whip was in her hand later tho lol I also note that she clearly did not discuss who the senators were with anyone. She was hostile towards the only ones who were willing to ask her questions. Guess who they were? The Liberal ones, two of them, offering her a chance to discuss and explain things that the Cons and their pet witnesses were misleading or misrepresenting or ignoring. She missed her opportunities, twice, (i didn't get to see everything, due to interruptions, and i hadn't recorded it sadly), when she could have done a lot of good. Saying 'ask me something important', should have been something said to any con senator who asked her a question. Sure, none of them would, they are afraid to give anti C36ers, especially one of the ones the whole SCC challenge is named after, but she had a chance, and to me she missed that chance. And that was the problem with how she was acting inside. I don't think you can argue that her passion is valuable. And her approach, clearly not a victim. It would be hard for any senators to look her way and think that any community protection legislation is going to help her, in fact, it might be used against her if they have their way.

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How does C36 relate to this? A secure building is always a good idea. It won't stop a surprise visit from the po-po if that's what you are wondering.

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I sell stuff for my job. Sometimes i give a good customer a deal. A better deal than i should. Sometimes i have had those customers talk to much about that deal to the wrong people. They basically screw themselves from getting any deals ever again. If a girl ever bent rules of the establishment for me special like. Then i should keep quit about it. Even on an anonymous forum.

There's more to a guy's likeability than his wallet. I know millionaires who are great guys and millionaires who are complete jerks. Additional Comments: Yes, risk avoidance may be conjoined with "nice" and risk acceptance with "bad boy". A nice guy will stick in his decent job, a bad boy will accept the risk of quitting and looking for a better job, or going to night school to get a trade. The one with the better job will attract the better mate, that's the Selfish Gene 101. Pairing with a better caregiver not only secures the success of the female's offspring but the success of the offspring's offspring. There was an interesting Star Trek The Next Generation episode about this. Picard went back in time and re-lived his life. He tried to avoid all his mistakes and always played it safe. He ends up back on the Enterprise but Riker is Captain. Picard is an anonymous science worker. All those risks and mistakes made him the man he was because he learned from them. Nothing ventured nothing gained. I've made bigger mistakes than you can imagine but I would not change my life one bit.

The stereotype is that sex workers are victims and need to be save. What Bedford did was the exact opposite of that stereotype. But her title as dominatrix, this may be the only time a non-sex worker sees a dominatrix in the media act this way and it may leave that impression they are people who don't play by the rules: those rules being, "act like a lady" (as per Plett's comments). Even she said it herself, "I told myself I would act like a woman and not a dominatrix." That's the message being sent: there are women and then there are whores. This Bill, the politicians and the abolitionists re-enforce that message. Not Terri Jean--she is defying normative standards of what it means to "act like a lady" and CPCers don't like that.

I will say that I am a grower, not much to be seen lol till arousal sets in. Then it is more than adequate, so I have been told. :-)

I find myself agreeing with MN2. This wrong headed and dangerous legislation, I think, changes the game and may require some drastic action. If the hypocrites are outed (as RG alluded - we could only hope) it won't be because some provider is being unprofessional but because this legislation is a dangerous and thoughtless attack on innocent people. I don't think there are many people on this board who consider C-36 and the process it is following to be 'professional' in any way.

This is a tricky subject to discuss. Clients' anonymity and discretion is always sex workers Number 1 priority in their lives...it's their livelihood! But this whole debate is NOT about clients. Yes, clients experience bad things too sometimes. Bedford isn't about clients though. It's about sex workers' safety. I think her reacting like this is very reasonable for how politicians are treating not only her but *all* sex workers/allies/orgs at these meetings. Bedford isn't about clients though and if a Bill is to respond to Bedford, it also needs to shift it's focus. This isn't about clients: the politicians are making it about clients, the abolitionists are making it about clients and the Bill is about the clients. Politicians are not playing nice. The abolitionists are not playing nice. The Bill and everything that comes with it just makes me angry. Grrr. :whip: Note: I don't agree with outing anyone. Like ever. But her anger? Very reasonable for how sex workers are being treated and the Bill isn't even law.

RG I wish that were true. We both know lots of women here who are professional and trustworthy. There are women I trust completely and unconditionally. Boards like this are echo chambers. Everyone here has a similar set of values. Some of us forget that we are a tiny minority in the greater society. Our values may be shocking to them. This is television being watched by people who may have never spoken to an actual prostitute. She is the ONLY prostitute they have ever seen speaking in a public forum. And look how she presents herself, how she dresses, how she speaks to the chair. Black leather, and black leather gloves? There's a time for that. Parliamentary Committees are not that time. She clearly made threats that could ruin people's lives, she had previously said she "had a bombshell" to deliver. She repeated that right in the hearing directly to Chairman Runciman. I think Runciman may have felt she was either grandstanding or about to drop the aforementioned bombshell. I fear she has confirmed a lot of people's suspicions about all the unsavoury aspects of this business. Especially the one about women keeping a little black book of information that could be useful down the road. I repeat, I am totally sympathetic to all her arguments but disappointed she wasted a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to speak out for every SP.

Definitely unprofessional, no argument. But her actions reflect on her and only her. Saying her actions make everyone in her profession look bad is like saying one bad client makes all clients look bad Apparently she has apologized for her outburst Complete story here including apology http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/terri-jean-bedford-kicked-out-of-prostitution-bill-hearing-1.2761325 RG

The Canadian HIV/AIDS Legal Network has posted on its website its brief to Senate: http://www.aidslaw.ca/publications/interfaces/downloadFile.php?ref=2297 Brief to the Senate Standing Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs regarding Bill C-36, the Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act This brief compares the Criminal Code provisions proposed by Bill C-36 against the Criminal Code provisions struck down by the Supreme Court of Canada in R v. Bedford. It explains how the new law, if enacted, will replicate the effects of the old law on the security of sex workers and, as such, reproduce the harms the Supreme Court of Canada found to be unconstitutional. It further explains how these harms also constitute violations of international human rights law and how criminalization of sex work undermines the global response to the HIV/AIDS epidemics. Finally, it issues a recommendation for Bill C-36 to be rejected in its entirety.

Another illustration of the utter pointlessness of attempts to prevent people from getting it on with other people, even when there's money involved. http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/sex-marathon TLDR version: Porn star wants implants, fucks 25 guys in a night (on film) to fund it. Usual suspects try to shut it down, and fail due to some fairly simple "paying for X, not Y" arrangements. I really wonder when people in various positions of power and influence are going to work out that this kind of thing will happen, has always happened, and won't stop just because they disapprove? As far as I can see, their efforts to prevent this event had only two results: it was moved from an RV to an apartment (which doesn't strike me as a bad thing) and it resulted in a lot of free publicity.

References tend to be a US thing because US law is different from Canadian law so providers want to be sure that a client who shows up is a real client and a safe client. With the new law possibly coming into effect in Canada, it is likely that both providers and clients may want references to make sure that when an escort shows up she really is an escort and not a police officer in disguise and the same goes for clients being real clients. References are a part of life in this job and are likely to be a bigger part of life in the future. There is nothing with asking for one but please inform the person providing the reference that she or he will be hearing from such and such.

Definitely, that's why I said to contact the lady you are asking to give you a reference. She won't be contacted out of the blue about you, and (yes, you'll know if she'll provide a reference for you too ;-) ) And one thing to remember about this lifestyle. It is poly amorous. We all know everyone sees others, be it clients seeing other ladies, and ladies see other clients. Don't worry if the lady knows you see other ladies, she expects you to see other ladies A rambling RG

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Liquor, I have been reading your posts for a while and although I have never met you, I would like to tell you how much I respect you and feel inspired by you for your positive attitude, your courage and strength. Lots of people here love you and think about you often. :) So yes, enjoy yourself, have fun and keep creating beautiful memories. ;) Cheers

Under the Dome on Global. I really enjoyed the book.

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I have always start off with tea and cookies for outcalls like Suite Escapes suggests. The donation envelope is always on the hall table by the front door. So there is no visible transaction. We socialise over tea/coffee and a lite snack. Some casual conversation and never about sex. Although there can be some lite flirting... Who knows what that will lead to... ;)