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4 pointsi think sometimes sps are going to be behind due to the inconsistency of other appts showing up on time, or ending on time. while it would be nice that all clients respect the time has ended, not all do and continue to push beyond a reasonable amount. some sps require clients to be on time, and if they are not, the time of the appt's end will not change. half hour late? oh well, it doesn't mean you get to stay an hour from arrival to exit, it means you stay a half an hour for your hour appt. if a client is late arriving/leaving, the sp may have time enough between appts to get ready for people who are on schedule, but not enough when someone is not. if she is asking for another hour, then by all means cancel the appt as this may be a sign of doubling up. if she asks for 5-10 minutes, then relax and appreciate the fact that she wants to be presentable for you due to circumstances beyond her control she has been delayed.
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3 pointsNever really make new year's resolutions... Try to be better everyday. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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3 pointsIt's Monday, why not come in and be pampered like a king xo I am available in a upscale west end location: Today from 6pm to 11pm, Tuesday 6-11pm, Wednesday 6-11pm. Imagine coming into a session and being bedazzled by not only my beauty, but my sensual touch. Though I am a spinner with a petite frame I have a very strong touch to really get out all the knots and tensions in your body. My sessions always start off with a fun game, followed by the most amazing massage you will ever have in your life. I also offer body wraps, to warm you up, body slides that will make your toes curl and enjoy a shower for two :icon_wink: I am waiting for you, Let's not just have a naughty time, but a mutually fulfilling one :icon_wink: For booking ask for Alison: 6138208887 xo Alison
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2 pointsElegant in its simplicity. Much harder to accomplish but I would echo Conquistador's comment
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2 pointsSo, how was the followup? I guess it didn't happen. Because they were just trying to put a scare in you, and man, it worked. That location obviously has a valid business permit, so they can't shut them down for that. As far as I see it, unless someone admits to having sex on the premises, (which to my knowledge is not happening there) which could give them probable cause to bust the door down to try catching patrons in the act, pretty much a non starter. As for any lists they might compile, for what purpose? Unless someone inside lies about what is happening, and actually knows your name or license number, what is there to be concerned about? I'm no lawyer, but if the police published a list of people going to a legitimate business, or even an illegitimate business, and insinuating that something illicit happened without any actual proof, man, there would be lawsuits. Pulling a few guys over and putting a scare into them is probably the worst they can/will do. Even that is pretty bold, I'm not sure I'd answer any questions. Maybe a "Yes, officer, I availed myself of their fine hospitality and had a lovely relaxing massage. You should try it, you seem tense. No, I wasn't offered any illegal acts, nor am I aware of any taking place. Just had a massage. Is that illegal? No? OK, thanks, I have things to do. Buh Bye"
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2 pointsHEY! IN and OUT Let's enjoy each other's company, perhaps warm each other up. I will entice you with my innocent green eyes and seduce you with my luscious lips. My curves and smooth skin with leave you dancing with the stars. You'll grow to love my company, and crave me more and more. Book with caution, I am your new sweet addiction Shh PM me Love DoubleD Love
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2 pointsIf you are looking for an SP in Halifax I think you will find a plethora of wonderful ladies who it would be a pleasure to pass some time with. I certainly could recommend the following: Midnight Energies http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/member.php?u=77835 http://rawr4u.com/ MsManda http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/member.php?u=75468 Www.MsManda.com Katherine http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/member.php?u=29603 http://www.sensualkatherine.net/ Maraena (In Truro but travels to Halifax) http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/member.php?u=35208 http://www.maraenablackwell.com Sierra http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/member.php?u=24762 http://sierra-halifaxescort.com/ But hey the board is full of amazing Halifax ladies Just my Opinion
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1 pointMost of the time I have read reviews and the reviewer had mentioned that the woman was a great kisser. Usually when I go see a new woman I would have communicated with her thru PM or email or twitter. I usually ask if they allow kissing or not. Many women don't kiss and some just love kissing. It is a personal thing with them. It all depends on your hygiene also and chemistry. Many times upon being brought into the room. the woman would usually hug and give a little kiss. A few times the kisses are very passionate. A couple of times, they just brought me to the couch and we would kiss passionately for a few minutes. These are signs that I am going to enjoy myself. But a few times I have dropped in on women that I had no previous contact with and they don't know who I am. I find these sessions sometimes awkward as I am shy and don't like to make the first move. A good sign that they don't kiss is if you try and they turn away or let you kiss their cheek. Several times I've had no kissing during the session, but at the end I asked if they kissed, and they all said that they did, but that they were waiting for me to make the first move. Then they would give me some nice kisses at the end before we left. Several of these girls I have returned for many visits and had great kissing and cuddle sessions with them. So question to you woman? How do you let the man know that you allow or do not allow kissing? Would you perfer not to kiss during the session but will if asked? Or only kiss if you feel some chemistry. Or never kiss at all? Should they guy ask if he can kiss you, or should he pucker his lips and hope you kiss him? lol Guy's Have you gone thru this awkward experience, do you make the first move? or are you too shy to?
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1 pointI very recently had a wonderful evening visit with the enticing brodystyles. She has done some agency work here in Ottawa and has some glowing recosfrom her work in Kingston and Belleville (some as brody but also fka jessi). I had communicated with her to try and convince her attend the recent social but she was too busy so what better way to meet and enjoy some time together than a private rendezvous! (There isn't one!) Brody is very welcoming, booking was easy and I visited her at her in call. She greeted me in a short, tight, black cocktail dress and I thoroughly enjoyed helping with the zipper..... and then slipping off the lovely lingerie! Brody is the GND type and is kind, adventurous and really into having fun. The details of our lovely time together will remain between us but I can assure you there will be no disappointment when you visit! We flirted, we played, we cuddled, we played some more and I left a very happy and satisfied man! I really enjoyed the cuddles and conversation provided by this lovely young woman - already looking forward to my next visit!!! It was very easy for both of us to lose track of time and we did!
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1 pointThis girl is super hot! I decided to meet this girl because her ad on BP looked TGTBT and some people on cerb were asking about her but no one seemed to TOFT yet, and I'm not afraid to walk away from a bait+switch if it happens. As it turned out, she is real, her pics are real and she's even better in person. As you can see from the ad, she has a great body but the pics don't include her incredibly beautiful face! This girl could be a model and/or porn star if she chose to be. She has enhanced breasts but you can't really tell. They're very well enhanced and feel natural (if you're skeptical, go see for yourself!) She is very friendly, talkative and charming. This girl has it all. I won't write the story of the encounter itself, but had to get the word out that this girl is one of those BP TGTBT posts that really isn't TGTBT. I encouraged her to become part of the cerb community but of course it will be up to her to make that plunge. If I had more disposable income, I'd be going to see this girl almost every day. Additional Comments: the link to her ad broke in my post. Here is the working link - http://ottawa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/special-rates-giselle-sexy-and-fun-hottie-come-see-me-until-12am-20/21383709
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1 pointHappy New Year Everyone It's December 29th so in just a couple of days 2015 will come to an end and frankly from a personal perspective I will not be sad to see it close out....I have had better years and I am hoping that 2016 will be a better year for me and the people who are Important in my life. So that said are there any New Years Resolutions that anyone wants to put out there publicly One of my resolutions will be to try and accept things as they are... I am starting to realize that no matter how much I would like things in my life to be different I don't control the way things are or the actions of others I can only accept the reality and control how that impacts me What is your New Years Resolution?
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1 pointI've been thinking about how tricky the seemingly simple activity of conversation can be in our lifestyle. When on a date I like having some time to chat and make a connection, which means hopefully discussing more than the weather or how we're feeling that day. But of course some questions can be too prying or even go past inappropriate into offensive. Let's face it, when visiting an alluring woman you've been anticipating the pleasure of spending time with, especially if it's the first time meeting them, words don't necessarily come easily. Nerves can either make you seem boring or intrusive. I imagine ladies also find breaking the ice and getting more than two-word mumbled answers out of a gent is sometimes an issue. I thought it would be helpful to try a thread where we mention questions that should be avoided, but even more useful perhaps share some topics of conversation that can be meaningful and fun. Good topics/questions/ice breakers: --Do you like to travel? Where would most love to visit? (can often lead to amusing stories, shared interests, discussion of future, etc) --A lot of ladies will post some of their interests on their website (which I appreciate). Take a peek, and maybe you'll notice a sports team, author, movie, etc that you both like. It can be a good ice-breaker and easy connection. --Any specialty cooking dishes/favourite meal? (or odd foods you hate). When I admit I don't like any kind of cheese that always gets a reaction! --Do you have any pets (some of my biggest laughs with a date are sharing and one-upping each other with stories about the crazy antics of our pets. I think I disappointed one lady when I had to admit the scratches down my back were not a sign of my sexual prowess but rather a sneaky cat who used me as climbing pole to get up on a shelf). --Are you a salty snack person or a chocolate person? Seriously, this is vital insight into a person. Not quite as much as asking whether they believe toilet paper should be hung over or under...but that's a second date question ;) Questions to avoid: --Have you been busy? (anything that makes it sound like you're prying into how many people a lady has seen) --How often do you get tested? --Do you have a boyfriend/girlfriend/husband/wife Obviously personal tastes will play a part, but I'd love to hear any others people have to add, especially those questions/topics that fall on the good side and can lead to a real conversation without seeming like you're prying.
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1 pointI'm not a fan if for no other reason than that this is the country that brought us the 'Nordic Model'...... or should that be the 'No Dic' model?
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1 pointThree areas: character, carrying on :), and career. 1. Character: The operative word for 2016 is friendship. I want to be a better friend, more attentive and caring. I want to repair any friendships that my negligence has damaged or broken. This is my serious resolution. 2. Carrying-on: lots more eating out in my favourite places, and finding new favourite places to eat out in. :) 3. Career: I want to learn Russian, and travel to Eastern Europe, for work, and also for fun. Maybe meet some Eastern Europeans, and work on resolutions 1 and 2 as well!
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1 pointrubintugger makes some valid points but like it was mentioned earlier that LE involvement is usually complaint driven. If anyone gets questioned I think you need to remember the last sentence rubintugger said ....."just getting a massage"... and not saying anything else
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1 pointHi there, thank you for checking my ad. You will not be disappointed with my A+++ massage... My name is Vivian. I'm 28 years old. Gorgeous, i am a classy looking Lady with long black hair, seductive cat eyes ...., beautiful silky soft, tanned skin. work out body with all the right curves in the right places. You have finally met your dream girl... I greet you at the door with a lovely smile then lead you to the massage room...I will start with a deep soothing tissue massage to relax all your muscles then follow with a soft touch to invigorate your whole body then the fun time ... It will be the most relaxing, creative and passionate session for you ever. So amazing that you cannot help yourself from thinking about it and want to come back for more ! http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=92146 For relaxing massage $40/30m $50/45m $70/60m appointment only, call/text me at 6l3 7l2 l2OO mon to sat 10am to 7pm
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1 pointWould you like to do something other than the usual? Get off at a different path.............. Call me for the juicy details. Allison, my cell is being repaired, all calls to 613 569-7928, or email Be prepared for a day not like any other...............
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1 pointBoom!:bondage::stiletto: Nationality: mediterranean Beauty Height:5'3 Athletic Build/135lbs Large C Cup Long Black Hair,Tanned Olive Skin,beautiful exotic face Naughty PlayTimes,Bodyslides,ShowerFun Upon Request ToyMaster Available,Naughtiness a Must, Reasonable Fees To Inquire About Me, All You have to Do Is Pm me Or Text me Directly ! 613) 778-8509 To Text Only My Availability Today and This Week!! Today 9-4pm Thrus 9-4pm Looking Forward To Meeting You!
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1 pointHello gents! Hope everyone had a wonderful Christmas! Are you looking to unwind this holiday season? Why not take a walk on the wild side and see how far we can take this.. Long sexy legs a long beautiful blonde hair! I have mesmerizing blue eyes and all natural 38 D breast and curves in all the right places! In call specials today for this lovely snow day! No blocked numbers Text is best way to communicate! 613.447.9789 http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=227667
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1 pointExactly, I always go there for a relaxation or deep tissue massage and there's nothing illegal about that. I don't know why anyone would park a couple of blocks away that just looks suspicious really. I park right in front and about being pulled over the last post nailed it maybe they need a massage too.
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1 pointI guess there could be a couple of reasons for bookings on the 1st day... There may be guys who have been very eagar for the lady to visit and want to book as soon as they possibly can :p Many touring ladies visit cities regularly so they are less inclined to sight see and instead want to maxamize their time in the city to ensure the trip is profitable... there is the unfortunate reality of no shows so every booking can be important. In your particular case I am thinking the first item might be more true... just saying.
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1 pointI apologize for the inconvenience. I am slowly working my way, to what works best for my schedule. So far especially early appointments, have been impossible to achieve. Schedule will be transient until I find the best schedule to best accommodate you and myself. See website for details. http://www.brodystyles.info Happy New Year! Specials for Lyla and p411 members! I offer the full, laid back,quirky girlfriend rendezvous, along with several types of massage . I have big blue eyes and hour glass figure, to go along with a marvelously cheeky and nerdy side! I am a nurturer and a giver and am not well suited with suitors who prefer a quick fix. I am attracted to the whole concept of intimacy and am also into several fetishes, which include feet. I definitely would have to say, that I appeal to several personalities as long as you are respectful and clean. I offer a laid back, sensual tone but also a tone of 'Let's get weird", to the appropriate occasion. I offer out and in calls. In call is offered in our Nation's Capital at a non- commercial, private residence. Have your secret desire, satisfied.The soft, sweet,quirky girlfriend, you can't help but crave. My world is, your world.With warm embraces and stupefying kisses. Welcome to a world where,you can be yourself. Relax and enjoy an intimate experience with me. Soft skin aching to be touched. I'm not fake nor do I know how to be. I offer a non-rushed experience with a real person. I would love to enjoy my time with you. Let's have some mind blowing chemistry!
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1 pointA friendly chat with advise would be good. She might want to find a new venue for awhile. I think providers like this one would be advisable to do that every now and then. Much like a traveling escort. Some change hotels a few times while visiting a city. Helps avoid build up attention. Can still let loyal customers know where you are when they book It doesn't sound like she's super invested in this venue. I would hate to hear of her being shut down before I can visit
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1 pointI guess if bubbles in a bubble bath were considered Sentient beings ... then being a bubble in this tub and given the opportunity to cling to a cougars body... caressing it as you slide along would be considered a pretty good gig... just saying
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1 pointThe best thing to do is ask. If she says no don't take it personally just make sure you arrive with good hygiene. Some girls do and some don't....some might not the first session but could down the road. There are too many factors to take it personally. When in doubt ask whether it be kissing or something else. Worst case she can say no and best case you likely will end up having more fun than you would have had otherwise.
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1 pointA bottle of Baileys and a bottle of Vanilla Vodka.....now to make the coffee ice cubes...then boom, heaven in a glass
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1 pointA really belated happy birthday to you, NJ! Wishing you another great year in your life. Best, toine
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1 pointThis is fu*k*** bad as I have enjoyed this place for a while and found it convenient on my way to work and back. I have seen backs of guys leaving and one time a truck pulls up when I was leaving. It made me nervous and I would make sure that my appointments did not cut close to another. The whole thing about the garage was just way stupid, but there was no other choice I guess. It was a matter of time that the increased foot traffic would be noticed by the nosy neighbors. Thanks for the Intel guys. Time to lay low and let things cool off a bit. Someone visiting should have a friendly chat with her (if possible).
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1 pointLooks like we all were little late on this one :( Happy Belated Birthday Mr. Johnson!
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1 pointIve meet up with her in the summer, shes a tbay girl who travels as an sp, she didnt have an incall so I picked her up from what she said was her bfs appartment, she is good looking, i think her pics look better then she dose in person, overall experience was 6/10 and I wont repeat. She was just not really into it and I feel since I am the one paying for the service I should be treated well, I am not some big fat gross person by the way, Im clean cut in decent shape late 30s guy.
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1 pointPersonally, I am an open book. I do not mind saying that I have a kid, that I sometime have a day job and that I have a university degree, that I lived in France for quite a while so with some gentlemen we have nice conversations of countries they went, etc. I understand Peachy saying she doesn't ask questions about wife or kids but I do, not to be intrusive at all but just so we can share advices and nice stories on our kids. But also when they are back I ask them how are the kids doing? Most of the time, they go 'Wow you remember that?!' I have my own way of remembering my clients and it's not to use it against them but just so they feel they are just not a number as I like the same when they return a question I ask them. I also remember their job and ask about that also. When I ask questions and I see the gentleman doesn't feel comfortable I back off and tell them I am sorry but just wanted to know them a little bit more and that I am VERY discrete but I respect they don't want to answer. Should I have ever been too intrusive with a client from LYLA please accept my most sincere apologies. Bisous Barbara xxoo
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1 pointIt's definitely all in the tone of the conversation as well. If I feel comfortable with someone and there is a connection, I have no problem discussing certain things but if it's done in a way that is unnerving and feeling much like the Spanish inquisition, I will shut down and steer things in another direction. Asking how many kids she has or how old they are out of the blue is downright creepy and not conducive to an intimate encounter. If she casually mentions it, go with it but dont pry. I had one person one time ask me questions and it was comparable to a line of questioning you would see on t.v. from a police officer or a psychologist. Just point blank questions out of the blue asking where my parents lived, if I had any children. I had to shut him down telling him his questions were very intrusive considering he just met me 5 minutes ago. Children, boyfriends etc are a delicate subject. I've had people insist I MUST have a boyfriend because I'm not someone who should be single for various reasons. Then they make the suicidal mistake of saying they should be my boyfriend. lol. How uncomfortable is that? Whether or not I have a boyfriend is really no one's business and if I did, why would I make that known to every single client I cross paths with? It's really not that important. And no, I do not have a bf who is going to walk in the door at any moment. Those kinds of statements from clients really bother me. Most likely I will not book an appointment with a person again if I felt I was put on the spot even if they want to see me again. If a lady opens up to you about her personal life, its because she feels comfortable in doing so. Let her do it but in the meantime, talk about the many general things that have been listed her for starters. If a relationship is established over time, conversations may get more personal as long as there is an established trust there.
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1 pointWhether it's my lawyer, dentist, doctor or any other appointment I make in advance I allow a 15 minute grace period and after that I leave. If I receive advance notice the day before or at least a couple of hours before then I'll make an allowance if it works for me. Otherwise if I'm prepared to make the commitment then I expect others to do the same. Within this game it's very rarely happened without notice but it has and I left and never made another contact. "Respect" is a two way street. Peace MG
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1 pointI'll do my best to be crisp and clean in the dental hygiene area, but if kissing is off the menu from the get go, then likely so am I. Mutual respect is key, but a good part of the girl friend aspect is the fantasy that this is not just a "wham, bam, thank you, ma'am". As a lady here once told me, "I love you as much as I can". To me, that's just about the best confirmation of mutual respect and comfort that one could offer or receive.
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1 pointtwo tickets to paradise! Not saying where I'm going, but it's a well earned vacation from a year of ups and downs. Happy holidays everyone, best wishes for the forthcoming year.
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1 pointSomething I've found to be quite useful is to say something like, "Do you mind if I ask <insert question here>". If she's OK with the subject then she can answer the question, but you've also given her an obvious and non-awkward way to just say, "Sorry, I prefer not to talk about that."
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1 pointDear Halifax, It's been way too long since I had the pleasure of visiting your lovely city! This being said, I can't wait to return in 2016 to see my dearest friends and make new ones as well :) Do get in touch with me if you'd like to see me this winter. In the meantime, enjoy new pics on my page Warmest thoughts and best wishes for a wonderful holiday and a very happy & peaceful new year. How to have an awesome holiday season! 1. Give into Temptation 2. Cherish your loved ones (& send your best wishes to that old friend of yours) 3. Live in the moment 4. Unwrap, Taste & Experience ALL your gifts 5. Don't forget dessert :wink: Btw, I AM NOW ON TWITTER ! I just created a new account on Twitter (finally, I know). Take a second to Follow me (EvaLaperleVIP) & for a sneak peek of my next adventures, candid pictures & sexy teasers Truth is, you'll find not a dirty mind but a sexy imagination & distracting pictures like this one Remember, I don't bite, I kiss ! Happy holidays once again, and don't forget dessert See you in 2016 Warmly, Eva L.
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1 pointDear Winnipeg, I've been receiving lots of emails & texts from some of you guys asking when I'd return... It's been way too long indeed!!! I have to say, my new career kept me quite busy lately. Good news is, I'll be visiting you very soon in January! Keep an eye open, I'll post new dates soon. In the meantime, enjoy new pics on my page Warmest thoughts and best wishes for a wonderful holiday and a very happy & peaceful new year. How to have an awesome holiday season! 1. Give into Temptation 2. Cherish your loved ones (& send your best wishes to that old friend of yours) 3. Live in the moment 4. Unwrap, Taste & Experience ALL your gifts 5. Don't forget dessert :wink: Btw, I AM NOW ON TWITTER ! I just created a new account on Twitter (finally, I know). Take a second to Follow me (EvaLaperleVIP) & for a sneak peek of my next adventures, candid pictures & sexy teasers Truth is, you'll find not a dirty mind but a sexy imagination & distracting pictures like this one Remember, I don't bite, I kiss ! Happy holidays once again, and don't forget dessert ;) Warmly, Eva L.
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1 pointHi my darlings, Just a quick note to wish you gent & ladies Season's Greetings Joyeux Noël Feliz Navidad Warmest thoughts and best wishes for a wonderful holiday and a very happy & peaceful new year. How to have an awesome holiday season! 1. Give into Temptation 2. Cherish your loved ones (& send your best wishes to that old friend of yours) 3. Live in the moment 4. Unwrap, Taste & Experience ALL your gifts 5. Don't forget dessert :wink: Really, I just want the person reading this to be healthy, happy & loved! ;) Btw, I AM NOW ON TWITTER ! I just created a new account on Twitter (finally, I know). Take a second to Follow me (EvaLaperleVIP) & for a sneak peek of my next adventures, candid pictures & sexy teasers Truth is, you'll find not a dirty mind but a sexy imagination & distracting pictures like this one Remember, I don't bite, I kiss ! Happy holidays once again, and don't forget dessert ;) See you in 2016 Warmly, Eva L.
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1 pointI will be leaving for my home in CB tomorrow evening and not available again until January 3rd . I wish all my friends the best Christmas ever . Please if you can give to a charity that will make a difference , there is time left . This is a special time of year whatever you religion. Reach out with small gifts to neighbours. Even a visit to a single senior citizen will make that persons day. I encourage myself and all my friends here to use their imagination and just look close to home. What you do, even small gestures can bring great happiness to another lonely human being . Christmas blessings to all !
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1 pointAs planned I did stop by late Friday afternoon and caught Jenny dressed in black. Had a couple of drinks and a great respite from reality in the CR. After seeing her off from her day shift I managed to connect with Stacy who was very Christmasy in a red ensemble complete with garters and stockings. Just had to unwrap that package over an extended session ...it was a special Christmas eve:) Happy Holidays to all.
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1 pointI enjoy kissing provided that the client has good mouth hygiene. I really dislike kissing someone after they have smoked and attempted to use gum before the meeting... Those clients, I really can't go through with the kissing. If they haven't asked when they booked an appointment about kissing I usually ask them when they arrive, "do you enjoy/like kissing?" usually they all say yes. I don't ask them if I know they're mouth hygiene is bad. I've told blank to someone after they wanted me to kiss them and I bluntly said, "Sorry, you have bad breath." This was near the end of the session. I like when clients tell me the details before a meeting of what they would like me to do or want. I've done this with role playing and it goes smoothly because I know what will be happening and there isn't this long discussion before we begin. I also enjoy the spontaneous times, not knowing about the client, I like the mystery. I've had experiences where they've booked and they just wanted the talk and kissing, so they directed me to kiss them after they said something or if I enjoyed what they talked about. I enjoy listening and talking.
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1 pointBack by popular demand. the original miss Ashley formerly of nevadas and also Indie I could not stay away. There is way to much fun to be had. Call. Email. Or text. 204. 227. 0032. [email protected] Posted via Mobile Device
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1 pointI'm back in Belleville leaving Friday morning for Kingston don't miss out on my massage and other great skills :-) I only bite if u want me to... You can call or text 613-716-3255 avail 1pm-4am Kisses and licks Tracey...
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1 point"Lyla.com is a place for FRIENDLY ADULT conversation..." Well, that's the last time I ever try to post a honest question on here about anything, with a response like that. Clearly, this isn't a friendly place for people who are just trying to be safe.
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1 pointShe's the real deal, if you search her name on the recommendation sub-forum you would have found a couple reviews http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=662761#post662761. Posted via Mobile Device
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