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From an SP's perspective, if she doesn't answer, there is the good chancee she is busy with a customer or is not available. For me, if 20 minutes has passed and I missed a call, I will not call back for discretion purposes. Most clients will call me back if they want information or an appt at a later date. Some people take offense or consider the SP flaky if she doesn't get back but as I said if I missed the phonecall for whatever reason, I won't be calling back hours later.

I personally believe that you are on exactly the right track in wishing to communicate to some degree prior to meeting an SP. Your introductory email, or PM or text should be polite and serve as a brief personal introduction. Reading posts in the forums will give you a pretty good idea of how a particular SP thinks and I believe that you can get an appreciation for the person and make a somewhat informed opinion about whether the two of you will click. That "click" is important and can make a good experience become an amazing experience. Everyone is seeking the best experience possible and prior communication can make that first hello upon meeting become much easier and even more eagerly anticipated. At the same time I have read more than once about 'timewasters,' so there is indeed a fine line that you must walk. Follow the lead of the SP and if you don't get enough from her prior to meeting to give you that comfort level then it would be OK in my opinion to not make the date and even explain why. Good luck and enjoy your time on Cerb.

I'd be careful about that one & how you go about communicating. If it's through email introduce yourself & let them know what your looking for in services & personality. But don't email constant as many girls will start to think your just wasting time & want to only chat. You can always call & ask if they have some time to talk. Once again talking to a person gets a better feel of a person's personality. Some girls won't discuss services over the phone, so be sure to read their ads & their website if they have one. Lots of time just from reading an ad or website you'll find the do's & don'ts about how they prefer to communicate with a potential new client. Your not wrong for wanting some communication before hand. A responsible provider should also know who she is allowing into her incall location. It's easy to turn down a client just from his approach & if at all there's a sense of we are not going to hit it off. I myself know I'd rather say no to an appointment then go through an hour with someone I feel no connection with.

While reading threads here, I mistakenly poured a shot of moonshine into a used coffee mug instead of my glass. Shrug........it's now a double with a hint of Tia Maria. Waste not- want not.

If you're interested in an ongoing, contractual or retainer-type relationship, I think you've come to the right place. What you can expect from the arrangement will, frankly, depend on what you can afford to pay. Most of us are doing what we do in order to make a living. Some work part-time because their other line of work doesn't bring in enough income. It's rare to find someone who is really only working to pay for occasional luxuries. Please recognize that sexual monogamy is likely to be very expensive. Asking the woman to give up having an intimate, emotionally-engaged relationship with someone else is a big demand to make on a woman in her 20s. Since you're only wanting something that might last a year or two, presumably because you either don't want a permanent relationship or because you already have one and just want to supplement your needs and interests, the woman you find would still be giving up a disproportionate amount of time and opportunity in her own life. However, this might be acceptable to someone who's in grad school, for example, and determined to focus mostly on her studies or writing her dissertation. If you're imagining that someone who isn't already a paid companion is more likely to be infection-free, please do your homework. The notion that prostitutes who don't work on the streets are a source of disease is not only a blatant stereotype, it's simply false. You are far more likely to contract an infection from a sweet college girl who's only had a couple of boyfriends or from a lovely lady you've met in a bar or on a dating site than you would from one of us. That's because we know that every man, regardless of age, ethnicity or financial profile, whether he's a client or a genuine boyfriend, is a potential source of infection. We take steps to safeguard our health accordingly. In the end, the only person's health care anyone is responsible for is their own. Consider carefully exactly what kind of financial investment you're able to make. Can you, for example, pay for someone's rent? Or are you thinking more along the lines of her university tuition, per term (which would usually be somewhat less than rent)? Are you able to cover all of her living expenses, which would be about two to two and a half times her monthly rent? Or are you simply wanting to be sure that you have first-call on her time for a couple of hours every Tuesday but want to get a discount on her hourly rate? Any of these arrangements could work out well. Just make sure each of you is very clear about what to expect. How do you plan to pay your sugar baby? Cash is king, but you may prefer to arrange for regular electronic bank transfers. Some people provide reloadable credit cards. Arranging for an auto lease is not uncommon. Whatever plan you come up with, how do you expect to safeguard things on your side? Do you have a completely private bank account, for example, with no risk of anyone else knowing about your deposits and withdrawals? What I'm trying to say is: if you have a wife or partner, how will you ensure that she doesn't find out what you're doing? I ask because I'm dedicated to ensuring that women in this industry are safe; I can't encourage you to put someone's security at risk because you overlooked the possibility of being discovered by your intimate partner, employer or secretary. Think about the kind of woman you want to be with. I understand that you're interested in someone who's young and beautiful. That's not a problem. But surely you want someone you can actually enjoy, as a person. Someone with whom you may have interests in common. Someone for whom you can actually care, and who will also develop real affection and regard for you would be ideal because you both need a significant level of trust if this arrangement is going to work out well. However, if you want a situation in which there will be little to no emotional involvement, you may be better off with a roster of companions, seeing one on the first Wednesday of the month, another on the second Wednesday, and so on. Do know that we can become quite fond of monthly regulars, though. I have a couple of those whom I've seen for several years and for whom I care a great deal. Please also consider how long you want the arrangement to last and how either of you will end it. You might enter into something that's intended to last for six months, an academic year or a full calendar year, for example. Or you might want to keep things more open and simply guarantee that you will give at least one or two months' notice before ending your financial commitment so that your companion has a reasonable opportunity to make other arrangements. I hope you will be more relaxed about what you would require of her if or when she decides that the arrangement needs to change or come to an end. I think I can safely say that the great majority of women on this board are interested in quality engagements with kind, respectful and caring men who value us as individuals. The number of paid companions who genuinely want to see 10-15 or more clients per week is miniscule. We all value returning clients and those of us who have a number of ongoing, regular clients consider ourselves to be blessed. Sugar daddy arrangements and Mistress-type relationships can work very well if they're undertaken thoughtfully. I hope you find what you're looking for.

These scents are said to be attactive to men and cause arousal what scents do it for you? Jasmine-when combined with a rose scent is said to be very alluring to men Franincense-can be used to raise your lover's spirits, and also to calm their nerves. Patchouli-this scent is said to be reminiscent of the sixties. It is said to help a man relax and become aroused. Ylang-Ylang--is a potent and long lasting aphrodisiac used to ignite passion and also to sooth and relax. Musk-women are 1000 times more sensitive to this scent and find it very sensual. Men may not notice this scent. Cinnamon-studies show that it increases blood flow ro the male genitals. Vanilla-for mature men, vanilla was the most sexually arousing scent Lavender-has been associated with sexuality throughtout history. In todays world, it is customary to place lavender under the pillow of newlyweds to encourage passion. -others scents that are said to increase blood flow to the penis are: doughnuts, cola, pumpkinpie, liquorice, oriental spice.

This is simply a public note meant to wish Roamingguy all the best on his trip south to visit with his Dad. RG has been very open with the Cerb community about what is happening and although it is very difficult to help in any tangible way with something such as this, I know that Cerb members wish him well and all the best for his Dad. Take care RG and know that many good thoughts are with you.

Safe trip RG. Wishing the best for you and your Dad

Chicken, spatchcocked and roast with lemon and olive oil, parsnip puree, and kale braised with pork belly, shallots, garlic and a bit of chicken broth. All cooked to the Top 80 Videos of the 80's on MuchMoreMusic. "She's my uptown girl...." or "Don't push me, cause I'm close to the edge...." Music makes everything work well.

Wishing you all the best, RG and hope your dad is on the road to recovery.

all the best to you and you dad, hope things go better for him. allow some time for when you travel at the airport, don't rush things...make's it easier for you. take care.

Wishing Roamingguy a good trip down south and best wishes to him and his dad. May the force be with you, always. FR

Wishing you a safe trip and sending you my thoughts and prayers for you and your dad.

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All the best, RG.

My thoughts are with you, your family and your father RG. It is difficult times like this that remind us we need to cherish our loved ones and make the most out of every day. All the best RG and a safe trip. MB

Good luck RG, my thoughts are with you... cat

All the best RG.

I have to agree that some of the ladies can be wary about calling back after some time has elapsed. It's always a good idea to give them some time limit to return the call. As an alternative, as they may be concerned that the call may at an in opportune time for you, tell them you'll ring back them back if they text that they are available to take the call.

I state on my voice mail to please leave a time frame in which to return a call. A lot of times the time frame is so short like a half hour & I'm busy for an hour or two. I like Nicolette after a certain amount of time am wary I might call at a not so discreet time. I leave it up to the fella to call back. Which I do believe is also mentioned on my voice mail to try back in an hour or so. I've returned calls to fella's some calling them long distance only to be told they've found someone else. Well alrighty then. Maybe a call back to me leaving me another message saying no need to call back might have helped an uncomfortable return call. As Emily has said lot's of times a girl can have a very busy day & not even have time to check her voice mail or emails & someone else has called when she was able to finally answer the phone & taken another booking. But do refrain from excessive calling. Today drove me nuts looking through my call log when I went to turn ringer back on & there were calls from two different #'s that called almost every two to five minutes for an hour. Like come on,lol. Leave a message. After that when they called I stared at my phone debating on answering it. Not answering won in that debate. Always best to book in advance even a few hours if you know your venturing out for the day. But 6 wow & not a single one answered or returned a call. I'm sure there are some girls out there that don't care about discretion & how long it took for them to return your call. I won't mention names but I one time called another girl, I didn't leave a message cause it wasn't urgent & about 15 minutes later I got a call back from her saying, "someone called me from this number". Obviously does that with everyone I'm sure. I was quit shocked to say the least.

I have left the city many times with blue balls because of this, one thing I did stumble upon is when leaving a message give a time frame that you will be accepting the SP's return call till, that way she will feel more comfortable calling you back and there is always the good old massage parlors if all else fails. keep on pooning my friend.

Chicken wings and fries...... Simple yet delicious!

Opening a pill bottle and spilling all the pills down the drain. Ugh!!

Up at mom's to drop off my cat (she's looking after him when I'm in florida) having a good visit, and I took her out for a nice dinner at the Keg. Staying at her place overnight, then tomorrow aftenoon drive to my brother's place, stay overnight there and bright and early Monday morning he takes me to Pearson to fly out to Florida. Even though circumstances for the visit aren't good, my visit with mom is good and when I see my brother my visit with him will be good too RG

There are a number of ladies that do this.Check them out on EC and some have it in their website and others just call text or email. It's that simple.

Congrats to the OP for securing his first date without a reference. Usually, all it takes is being open, honest, and complying with the escort's requests. And to show that you are someone that will treat her with respect and not make her feel unsafe at any point. So you did right and passed the gate! The style and tone of the initial communication is very important, be it by text, email, or phone call. I'm sure the ladies will agree with this. In some cases, however, this will not be sufficient with a provider, and in that case you may decide to move on, or use the verification methods already suggested to arrange a first meeting. Or decide to find someone else to meet. I hope it was a great first experience! Good luck and many happy hobbying hours ahead! FR

Best thing to do is talk to your service provider (No not that sp, the one who provides your phone service ;) ). Tell them where you will be and for how long. They can tell you what it will cost and in some cases can even offer you some sort of package to cover you while you're gone. Always better to know ahead of time so you can plan for it. Have a great trip.

my work cell has been hiding in my couch for like a week. I haven't found it yet but it keeps vibrating every now and again

Check with your provider, some offer a roaming package with so many phone minutes and wireless minutes. Rogers offers this $50 for x number of phone calls and x number of texts and x number of Internet usage.

My renovation project is now going in a different direction. Instead of taking things apart I am beginning to put things back together! The electrical is done and next step new drywall for the ceiling and two walls. A corner has been turned. :)

People that complain about someone feeding the birds-get a life!

Well I'll offer my two cents worth. When I see a lady on a repeat basis, she is obviously doing something right. A lady doesn't need to change every day and try to be someone else, because I want to see her again, if that makes sense As for seeing a lady for the first time, there is something about her that makes me think we would click. Yes I do look at her pictures and read her recommendations, but most of all, I read her posts on CERB (I now stick exclusively with the ladies from CERB) They most of all give me an idea of who the lady is. Although I don't know about this part for sure, it would seem to me having regular clients coming back to see you would be more stable and reliable than constantly trying to keep attracting new clients, who may see you one time only. Nothing against attracting new clients (after all we were all new clients once to a lady), but they should, IMHO, want to see you for you. A rambling for whatever it's worth RG

Some idiot cuts me off. I honk at him. He gives me the finger. As a Gentleman, I return the favour. He changes lanes. Slows down and ends up following me to the gym. He gets out. Starts approaching me, naturally I get out and this guy is face to face with me. I'm a bearded two hundred and fifty pound guy who you can tell works out. Needless to say, he sees me, turns around and practically runs to his car. Drives off and gives me the finger. Lol. WTF!!

It could but at this time the only way to add a city to the system is to have at least one profile ad in that city. If you would like I can have Dave (the site manager) give you a free 6 month profile ad (since he currently does not have any kingston listings he will agree to this) all you need to do is make a profile ad and PM me and I will ask him to do this for you.

Thank you gentlemen, it takes two to make a party and you are all such lovely men, its easly to rock your boats and thanks for the compliments!!

It is after 12 now so I'd like to make the lovely Nathalie my Goddess of this day. I was fortunate enough to spend some time with her at a party late last year and her outer beauty was only overshadowed by the perfection within.

I have always loved a hairy chest, it's sexy. But so is smooth. It depends on the man. Quite honestly a hairy man can be as sexy as a smooth man and vise versa. A man becomes attractive to me after I meet him and talk to him. No particular look or attribute will turn me on as much as his mannerisms, personality and sex appeal.

Anecdotal stories aren't going to change another person's mind. Get it or don't get it, that is your choice or it would be mandated. However, do some critical reading, and be aware of the reasons behind vaccinations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity (I am not saying that wikipedia is a good example, but this is a good explanation of herd immunity ;) ) Also, this is fun: http://www.historyofvaccines.org/ Now for my anecdote: of my coworkers, those who got the vaccine and got the flu had a much milder illness, whereas those who didn't were off sick for quite some time with more severe symptoms.

I specialize in retainer type exchanges and I always have. It has so many benefits for myself and the gentlemen that chose this option that I can't begin to list them. The emotional intimacy, connection, friendship and stability enhances my life in ways I never imagined in my 20's. The only issue I see with Sugar Baby/Daddy relationships is the difficult position it inevitably puts the Sugar Baby in financially. Young girls become dependent on the financial income very quickly and when the man withdraws (as he ALWAYS does at some point) she is usually left stranded financially trying to scramble to pay her bills. I've seen it so many times and I willingly warn young providers from becoming dependent on one client. There are square girls out there who seek out this type of relationship and if they are genuinely mature then they can make it work but often they do not have discipline to take advantage this type of relationship. If they know the game, they always come out with the long end of the stick and in my mind these girls are just prostitutes with a different business model. They end up costing far more than having an escort on retainer. Even some escorts mismanage the security of the "one, big client" and don't save up for when the ride is over. When the relationship with a square Sugar Baby comes to an end the potential for drama is huge. If emotions are involved, things can become very unstable. When the $ comes off the table, she will panic. Sugar Babies never understand the their true disposablility in the Sugar Daddy's life and when that realization hits, it hits hard. It's this hurt that will make her unstable in her reaction because it makes her feel used. Enter this situation at your own risk, I have yet to see one end with a shred of grace or dignity involved. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned... cat

So this night I could not find any of my regular ladies so I called Jason at PK and he recommended a new Girl Delilah. She just arrived and he said I would enjoy here. She was very nice and very eager to please. Above average Oral skills, beautiful real breasts and nice long blonde hair. Her eyes where extremly white and intoxicating. Overall I have to say I was very happy with the service., especially for a new girl. Daty, BBBJ and a camel toe as an extra bonus. Did I mention she had above average Oral Skills :) I would for sure recommend her, she was very eager to please.