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People ringin your doorbell before noon on a Saturday. So far the count is three. Whatever you are selling, I don't need. Whatever information you want to impart, I can find it on the Internet. Fuck off and leave me alone!

Celebrating Thanksgiving when one of the people in your life for which you are the most thankful is not with you anymore.... you are still filled with Thanks for the time that they were with you but also overwhelmed with the feeling of loss and sadness that they are gone.

I am bringing this topic to explain and stress the importance of taking the few minutes to READ our web sites before contacting us. In the coming days of our new reality, Bill C-36, it is now more important than ever to take a moment to read what our services are, the rates and any booking protocol that we have in place. By doing this, you can eliminate the need of communications of services. Which is a big deal to all of us these days. In our service descriptions, you will notice most of ladies have taken out our abbreviations and replacing it with terms like " HOUR of entertainment" " Brisk afternoon get-a-way" " happy massage" " flirty chats and companionship" " full services or minimum service" Each lady using terms that suite their services and personality. It is in the TIME and RATE that will be your clue as to what to expect in the TIME you are booking. NOT ONLY does this take out the communication you the hobbyist would have to be involved in therefore leaving little trace of evidence to be used against you on a later date. BUT it also saves a lot of miscommunication and frustration that us ladies endure. As for many ladies, we may offer anywhere from 2-6 different types of sessions. So as you can imagine to try to txt all that with out abbreviations is a long long task , then times that by 20 enquires! The whole day is spent on that, and now I have lost my precious time to book you in. If after reading the site, and you for some reason can not understand what we are offering, FIRST, look at the TIME that session is offering such as HOUR, HH, 90 min, an evening out, etc...then use some imagination, lol. But I know I know....you want the juicy stuff don't you? Well then I suggest to voice call directly. Rather then txting or PM about it. By a voice call, we can assess that you are indeed interested in booking not just playing games, as long as your number is unblocked. Some ladies have even decided no phone calls for enquires, in that case follow their protocols! At the end of the day, us ladies have made it this way to keep you safe. Keeping us safe and discrete as well. So rather then spending 5 hours on 20 questions, confusing and miscommunication frustrations.... READ OUR SITE FOR 5 MIN:) The you make an informed booking, and even if the abbreviations are not there you should be able to read between lines. If it is a new lady you have not yet met but has a good rep, look at her Reco's. If it is new to the scene lady, just book blindly and pay for time only, could save you a lot of grief later on! I hope to see more hobbyist reading our sites and less confusion on txt in the near future. I may have the same responds to all enquires soon... " please see my site for all your questions"

i'm just going to copy some things i've posted elsewhere. I've never posted any rates or services in any ads, I've always just made them phone me. I also will never provide any info in emails, i.e. nothing is available in writing to anyone. They do have to phone me for info, and to book appts. I find the whole email thing too anonymous, and while people can change or spoof their phone #s, the vast majority of clients are not doing that. Also, it is an obvious paper trail that they do not require a warrant to get. Recording phone conversations without a warrant, not so much, so there would be no written or recorded record of you telling people what you do. I mean what are the chances of that level of investigation into the clients of independent sps who do not work incalls out of hotel rooms, and are actually difficult to access, so their clients are equally difficult to access. Keep in mind, the sp is never ever doing anything wrong, whether it is asking for payment, or advertising a full menu of services. apparently. (Allowing people to use payphones is also helpful, since LE is not going to call you on an obvious payphone to ask about your info ) If an sp never posted rates/services, and never got into details on emails or texting or anything else, then she/he doesn't have to change anything that they currently do. If she/he always posted everything, and also got ticked off because guys call and ask questions, she/he is going to be at a bit of a disadvantage. Keep in mind most of our online advertising options are not based in Canada. We can continue to post whatever we want to post on those ads, or at least, within the limits and conditions set up by the advertising site. Reading ads will not get clients in trouble. Using the online contact and/or email options within those ads, that sets up the paper trail. I would advise sps to post phone #s, not to require email/contact from clients to get the phone #s. REquiring email contact is initiating that paper trail. Leaving it to phone calls does not, other than an untraced and unrecorded record that a call was made. proves absolutely nothing. For clients, use google extensively. When you see an ad by any sp on any site, google points from the ad in order to search the sp. You are looking for multiple ads on multiple sites. You are looking for history. You are looking for ads by that sp on that same site as well., What you do not want to see is one single ad on one single site. I am advising sps to ensure that on sites where they post multiple ads, that they ensure whatever box needs to be ticked to show all their ads they have on the site is ticked off. i'm suggesting to start telling guys who contact them to call them from a payphone. I'd go further and say go out and find out what the numbers are on the payphones and the locations so you can tell them where to go. Basically you aren't trying to avoid LE contact as an sp, you are trying to send the signals to potential clients that you are not LE. The more hoops you, as a client have to jump thru, the less likely you are contacting LE with a fake sp. LE in other words, is going to make it super easy to get all the info and the booking in one phone call. Legit sps are going to make you work for the appt, including making you call 3 times before you can knock on the door. Clients should also be looking for a website as well. Let's face it, what LE is not going to do: NOT going to create a website for their fake sp, NOT going to pay for multiple ads on one site, because they have to change up who that fake sp is. They are not going to post ads for sps over 25, or over ideal weight, or even ethnic ads. REsearch kind of shows that the most popular ads are for slender, busty, 20 year old blondes. LE is going to set up fake ads to fill that higher demand, and ensure the ads are attractive, and you know what that means. This buxom beauty does everything under the sun at 150/hr, 80 for the half. TGTBT takes on new meaning.

That helpless feeling when you have someone you love is feeling down and you just can't seem to say or do the right thing to get them out of this horrible funk.

I just want to take this time to wish every one a happy and safe long weekend. I am thankful for this site and all its wonderful members. This has been an awesome place to come and meet and share with a wonderful bunch of people. Please share here what you are thankful for this Thanksgiving weekend. Hugs to everyone. Cheers, Jeffray

The threat of exposing her Ottawa clients was done by the sp who did the challenge to the courts originally. She won in courts. Courts ordered gov to rewrite the law. and that's why she was at committee. She is retired so exposing a few former clients of hers won't hurt her. I think the gov knows this too will be challenged in the courts. but if they make the law and it gets thrown out then they can say to the group of voters who want them to do this 'look we tried but the courts messed it up'. its all about votes. not at all about women's safety. If they wanted it safe then they would make it all legal and not target the gents or the ladies. Regulate and license. then it would be easier to separate the legitimate industry from the darker side where people are being trafficked and abused. That will unfortunately never happen.

Waiving a client list? A vote swing? Talk about crash and burn for the SP (if she keeps a "black book")!

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I do not think a serious long term SP like Zoe for example would be outing clients. Professionals have a "brand" that they create, market, and protect. They would lose everything if they were shown to be outing anyone. Professionals are easy to identify. Some come on here and you can see that they are thoughtful and intelligent people. Fear those who have nothing to lose.

Not to break the mood or spoil the fun - but I would say it's perfectly reasonable for an MA or SP to expect to receive their donation before a session begins. If the guy feels like "running" afterward, maybe it's good for their heart, lol.

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https://www.change.org/p/stephen-harper-do-not-endanger-the-lives-of-sex-workers

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Happy Thanksgiving Everyone... we all have things to be thankful for.

You are welcome peachy. For myself, I am no longer advertising any sexual services. Not because I am afraid for myself, but to protect my clients. I will also not answer any questions about my services. I will kindly explain to my inquiry that by asking me, they are on fact breaking the law. If they can't read between the lines then I can't really help them. I look at this legislation as a way of running my business the way I want to now. Clients will no longer calling the shots. I am in control now. I am relieved I no longer have to say yes I will do xxx for $xxx. Can clients really understand what it feels like to promise a service to someone I have never met before? I've never promised a service and not provided it. However, there are some that push and maybe their hygiene sucks. So no more advance promises. I will be using stories and songs to help those who want to understand the type of encounter they will experience. Currently, I am advertising as a hot mistress. No one sees a mistress as companionship alone. Sex is implied. Just not openly stated. Read between the lines. I'm still providing the same services. Just advertising it differently.

Peachy, we are allowed to advertise our services. However, the third party companies are not. Your blogs are your expression of you. From what I've read, your blogs are not specifying a service for a dollar amount. I could be a slut giving it away for free telling the world. They can't stop that. If you want to keep your blogs - do so. Just keep mention of money out. Don't say I will give a bj and full service (example) for $xxx. The specific ads though keep that neutral. You could also make it a member only private section. Up to you.

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I hope everyone has a great thanksgiving. Lots of turkey, stuffing and pies.

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During the winter months I have the fire place going.... er... um... That is the HDTV channel 1520 on the Bell Fibe TV.... Sometimes they even play holiday music as well. For most holidays I do absolutely nothing. For Christmas, all I do is play Christmas music. I do not decorate for Christmas. For fear that the cat will bring down the tree. Plus -- I live in an apartment. So the storage is very limited -- no place to store the tree in the off season. With each passing year the budget and wallet gets smaller and smaller -- for everything.

I like that stores remake themselves with the signage and decorations of different holidays, because it can help get me in the mood of the season and it feels like a shared experience when it's everywhere you look. And yes, sometimes it prompts me to throw up a few Halloween or Christmas decorations of my own. What I don't like is that stores start it waaaay too far in advance. I don't want retailers to be trying to get me into the Christmas spirit when it's not even Remembrance Day, or even Halloween! When everything is done up for a few weeks that feels special and fun. A months' long push...that just feels tiring and greedy.

Often I tend to gather natural goodies from the forest, back yard etc...I will make a lot of my own decorations for Thanks giving, Christmas wreaths and center pieces. For this Thanksgiving I just bought a potted Mum's, very pretty orange and red, but that is as far as I go with this Holiday. Besides, my turkey will make the best center piece lol. Christmas, I have inherited decorations from my Mom, so I have all I need:) I do not go overboard with spending money on any holiday. Years ago I used to decorate for Halloween, that was my most favorite time for decorating!! But the last two years, just have other more important things to spend money on....like shoes! NO JK, hehehe.

I fully agree with Lady Sophia. Too many times I receive an email with a message such as , 'send me all your info by text to xxx-xxxx' Sure buddy, I will 'text' all 6 pages of my website to you! With this new bill coming into play, a fair number of us providers will certainly be revamping our sites to make them more 'readable' in the eyes of the law. Most websites are pretty clearly laid out with information for you. It only takes a few minutes to read, see if there are 'playtimes' you wish, and have the information at your fingertips. Asking a provider to send you all the information, we wouldn't be able to see anyone if we spent all day doing just that, lol! Take the time to view our sites, they are there for that reason, and please be respectful in contacting a provider in the way they wish to be contacted. Answers aren't always instant, we could be in an appointment, not available at that moment to access email, or even driving. Give us a chance to read emails, text messages, etc, and give us a little bit of notice. One person asked me for 'right way'......he was four hours outside of my area! Be respectful, and patient, like the gentlemen I know you all are :)

Trying to explain to a texter that my hours are posted on my ads and I do not host in-calls at this time nor entertain two men at once especially when I've never met either before. And catching up on my shows on Netflix.

With all the changes that are happening, why don't we just change with it? Why don't we ONLY friend people we have met and have a level of trust with? That would give pooners a reference to checkout an SP. Actually, I think when meeting a new gent, it would be perfectly ok for him to ask me for a reference from the board. The women on this board have asked for references for years, and it helps us keep safe. There is no reason why the gentlemen shouldn't ask for them too. We woman have been trying to keep each other safe with references for years ... just time to let men into the loop.... my 2 cents ;-)

Thank you for this, a realistic and common sense post for those of us new here.

Any SP worth her professional panties won't be waving their black book details publicly anytime soon. The truth is, there is no profit in outing a client so professional companions will be continuing on. The fly by nights are what you need to be aware of. If a provider isn't a long term investor in the industry then don't chance it. New girls will have to go to agencies and be vetted with identification and a couple of calls under their belts before they will be welcomed as indies. The changes are not really that big for indoor workers and clients. The real catch is the advertising legislation now imposed. There will be a marked change in the amount of information a client will be able to ask before meeting a provider. In that case, don't ask about services and you are fine. Payment for companionship has always been a non issue, what two consenting adults do behind closed doors is their business and no one is interested in what they do. Bottom line, new girls will where the risk lies in terms of LE so don't ask about sex before meeting or for sex once you arrive. Let her lead the way... cat

Will be visiting Ottawa soon, and fit this DT Bill!!!! ;)

haven't been there for over 2 years. Who is best there? in terms of being sensual and pretty face & natural D boobs. feel free to PM me if you wish.

Thanks Meaghan - Nice to know what I would like is not outlandish. Thank you also for the members that sent some recommendations my way via PM. Funny thing while I was in Montreal, I was all over the backpages getting dizzy with excitement and that original experience kept popping up in my end. I had a decent hotel (Mariott Chateau Something by the Bell Center), time, but just could not pull the trigger. I'm glad I didn't act on it. I did not know about this site until a few days ago. Being able to read discussions from both sides is excellent if not a little voyeur'ish :)

That is a large part of a guests donation. If I see some one in the mall and I have time I duck into a store. Of course everyone knows a lot of women can read minds so best not to let them read mine ! :icon_smile::icon_smile:

I look for this basic information: -rates -availability (when she plans on working) -location (not a specific address, but a part of town is enough) -photos to see if I find her physically attractive -her age (or at least her age group) -how to contact her As for what she writes about her personality and service, I look for women who seem friendly, warm, and down to earth. I like a bit of humour. I'm not usually looking for the wild porn star types or the really raunchy ads, but lots of guys are. But you shouldn't write what you think clients want to hear. You should market yourself honestly. Write about the service you want to provide. Design your ads and website in a way that reflects your personality. There's demand for all types of women and if you market yourself honestly, then you'll attract clients who will enjoy your service. You'll have a better time, they'll have a better time, and your business will grow. That being said, read your clients' recommendations. See how clients describe you in words. Maybe they like something about you that you didn't even realize was attractive. You can incorporate some of that into your advertising. As for photos, again, honesty is the best policy. I generally become distrustful when the only photos an SP has are really dark, grainy, low resolution selfies that are all shot way too close and/or smothered in photoshop filters. Clarity is important. I think some guys dig the glamour of professional photo shoots. I just want a clear idea of who's going to open the door when I go to see her. I like to see a well-lit photo shot from a distance that I can see more than 25% of her body in decent resolution with no effects. Hope this helps!

Just tell her she is Amazing.

it stopped raining here earlier, we had sun, now its ice pellets by the truck load in Montreal

Oh so many things can make a good session great. Once when I kissed a SP for the first time, she kissed me like I was a long lost lover, she molded her body into mine and hungrily swallowed my tongue. The kiss lasted but a few seconds but the memory will last for the rest of my life. Then there was the time I was orally pleasuring one of the sweetesy kitties I have had the pleasure of tasting before. I started to move my right hand into a position suitable for digital stimulation, when in the throes of lust, she grabbed my wrist and pulled my extended fingers into her vagina. She came loudly soon after in an explosive climax. I will remember that moment of lusty abandon for years to come. Then there was the woman who brought a toy to use on me. The lady in question was a regular and one day she surprised me with a prostrate stimulator. She knew I loved anal play and after warming me up she inserted the toy, flipped me on my back and proceed to fuck the living daylights out of me. The feeling of constant prostrate stimulation combined with vigorous fucking gave me, what felt like, a ten minute orgasm that I will remember after I die. Generally speaking, if an SP and I click physically and if the encounter is authentic, then I consider the session to be great. Since joining Cerb, the ratio of great sessions to just ok sessions to bad dates have risen to new heights. So thank you Cerb community for sharing the good. Keep it up (and I mean that in any way you can take it). And I meant that too.:icon_eek:

I don't think ANYBODY should be outed based on their profession and occupation. As long as they treated the ladies appropriately and respectfully....and no abuse of any sort took place. The fact that they may be two faced lying bastard public figures.....does not constitute a reason to out them in my opinion and do irreparable damage to their family and friend. My way of thinking is we must always think of all of the other people that get hurt down the line when you take action. Now if those same public figures continue to visit ladies after the bill kicks in and get caught....then I would hope that they may get what's coming to them and everything the book has to throw at them. But that's just my take on it.

Guys ripping off ladies is not NEWS... I think itbhas happened to everyone.. specially when you are new.. but I have seen this happen eve with regulars.... u just have to make sure you train all staff.. but even at that is something impossible to stop in full.. is just one more of the risks that this business has in store for the ladies. . Is not all about the fun and glamour... but from personal experience I do not duel on the past but learn from experience

The details of who he is is not what I am inquiring about - the thread is asking if any other spas, or indys for that matter, have had issues. The guy is a ballsy idiot and if he is brave enough to try something like that here, then he may attempt or have done it elsewhere, especially where security and process is more relaxed. I have been contacted by others due to this post so my suspicions were correct. Thanks for your input, srsly..........

After reading some of your remarks I would like to make a comment not sure if this the proper place hopefully it is OK, I figure this has being stated before and is definitely worth stating again as a hobbiest that tries very hard to make sure I go to your website, read everything to make sure I am doing everything correctly before and after contacting you we do appreciate the garbage and I mean garbage you have to deal with, anyone I had the privilege to visit here on Cerb has being nothing but awesome awesome, Thank you:)

thanks for starting this wonderful thread Peachy!! I find that the best sessions are with the gents who actually care about our comfort level I am in heaven when it is obvious that he read my web site and took the time to have a couple of my favourite things there .. whether it is a bottle of wine for us to share or a nice playlist to listen to while we "get to know each other".. just knowing that he took time out of his day to do something nice for me is the sweetest act any man could do.. he was actually thinking of me and that melts my heart It really is the little things that count.. he offers to wash my back during our S42 ... he hands me a towel upon exiting the shower etc... chivalry is where it's at

Cannot say for sure not having experience, but Brazilian wax looks like specially invented medieval torture for women. Is keeping hair down there natural way with nice hair cut such a bad idea? - Just thinking out loud

Mine just falls out on its own. I use a vacuum for the removal part. :cry:

I sell stuff for my job. Sometimes i give a good customer a deal. A better deal than i should. Sometimes i have had those customers talk to much about that deal to the wrong people. They basically screw themselves from getting any deals ever again. If a girl ever bent rules of the establishment for me special like. Then i should keep quit about it. Even on an anonymous forum.

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Wonderful idea! And then, when we hit rock bottom, we can demand the government bail us out. I think you don't understand our business. SPs who treat their customers the way most businesses today treat their customers wouldn't be in business long. My biggest lament in life is that I'm treated better when I'm making my money than when I'm spending it. And that's a very sad comment on business today. The thing is, you're mixing apples with oranges. Corporations are entities that exist for one purpose only: to make profits. But SPs are not corporations. We aren't doing this simply to make money, but to make livings. Perhaps you should consider that we know what we're doing.