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I only keep track of no shows and guys I don't wish to see or repeat with (for whatever reason). For me, it's like the old saying "no news, is good news". On the topic of outing clients, any SP willing to "out" a client publicly especially for political purposes would not only be outing herself but basically would be committing business suicide and to what end? Not like there's a "prize" at the end for doing so. As for ladies who keep detailed lists of their clients, I am sure they are not going to admit that on a general forum. Just saying.... Not directing to this to the OP, but some clients have to relax. We appreciate your business but you are not that important that most of us are dreaming up ways to fuck with your life.

I find it very easy to repeat with the Ladies I connect with. Either through open communication on the discussion board, thru their descriptive page or face to face, if I feel a connection mental and physical, I LOVE to repeat. And repeat again, etc. Over the years, I feel that I have made a connection that exceeds the SP/MA/Hobbiest with most if not all the Ladies I have been lucky enough to be with. That connection can be because of sassy and saucy chatter, that extra hug when together, the playful or not playful slap on the ass I get for being a smart ass, or the pleasure that comes from being together. I would love to so rich that I could see all the Ladies once a week until I am put in the ground(or the empty single malt bottle). Oh how happy my tongue would be!....but I digress, for me the bottom line is fun, connection, laughing and friendship. Like the friendship I have found over the last year plus during this battle with fucking cancer. The support I get is amazing. That is because the Ladies here and some Cerb members are amazing. Period Tom (and not that period, that is for another post!!!!!)

With all due respect, this is contributing to the fear mongering. My apologies if anyone disagree with me. It's interesting that only these types of threads are coming up now since Ms. Bedford had decided to threaten politicians who she may have had dealings with. This could happen at any point with some unsavory SP and make things worse by wrecking your home life which is just as bad as a criminal record. Why is it that much different now? It now sets a bad precedent for us especially now when we have to in a way almost defend ourselves because of the actions of someone else who has nothing to lose because she has retired. Many ladies have built a solid reputation that may be viewed as questionable now and if she can be trusted because someone decided to use these threats in front of the media towards people in powerful and influential postions. I guess there is no other way to really try to grab a man by the balls is there? Imo, these types of threads contribute to this sort of thing.

Starting to think we are a very paranoid group... I kind of see it this way... I did my research... contacted a lady... booked an appointment... shared some basic information with her and then went and had an amazing encounter... i trusted her when i did all of that and basicly i don't see a reason why that would change... in fact i have kept the same basic info i got from her so that i can book again if the opportunity arises. I trusted her at the beginning... felt safe enough to meet her and get naked... I'm ok with her in the future ithink. Just my opinion

Just as sex workers are shamed by society, so are the clients who see them. It's time to tell my side of the story TONY CALVIN Tony Calvin is the pen name for an engineer living in Silicon Valley. http://www.salon.com/2014/10/20/why_i_visit_prostitutes/

Of course some of the ladies have client lists! I don't write out a list on parchment with a broken crayon and nail it to the wall, vowing to ruin the lives of these clients but I do have an e-list: *to remember what I wore so I don't wear the same thing again the next time *Little details about the client if the client has a very common name (like Mike or Steve) *Some conversation/interaction with the client that we both really enjoyed. *To make dorky notes like 'great fun!' or 'loves history too!' or 'very proud of his daughter who just got into law school'. A few notes like this can bring back the whole experience when I next hear from this man. I like to think that TJ Bedford made that statement out of desperation because she wasn't being heard, and not out of real intent. If her plan was in fact to reveal the names publicly, I would not support that.

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If you are worried about outing: unless you are Harper or MacKay, nobody cares about you (Note: This isn't an endorsement to out clients. But that's the reality. Who was the Alberta MP arrested for prostitution in the states again? If you remember his name, I congratulate you). Thank you Nicole for calling out the fear mongering. Just remember to be polite and nice before, during, and after your encounters and you won't have to worry about being on a bad date list! Besides, these are safety tools and if the police force a sex worker to hand over this information to avoid arrest, it just speaks volumes to the dangers involved with c-36 and it doesn't help the argument supporting the Bill. It provides support AGAINST the Bill. As I like to say, do good and be good!

Hobby phones and hobby emails are a must. Of course I keep basic info of my guys. How could I possibly give a girlfriend experience if I don't know who's calling me? I can't remember everyone's voice, name and phone number. Do you know how many Tom, Dick and Harrys' I know? I don't keep any detailed info like address, last name, or what we did together. Just enough to be able to remember you. If we've never met, unless you've pissed me off somehow, I have no record of you. I just wish everyone would remember that it's not going to be like the U.S. where the provider risks being arrested too. I cannot figure out any GOOD OR LOGICAL reason any provider would use this information for LE. It makes no sense.

I'm trying not to get too wrapped up in the c36 circus. I watched it in the senate and, if I'm bring honest, it angered me. What angered me more was some peoples response to it. To see how so many have become so paranoid all of a sudden when this didn't even cross your minds when escorts were the ones at higher risk of prosecution. I hope that this response is just because it is at the forefront of our minds and not because the risk seeks to have shifted I do not mean to come off rude. I'm just making an observation, this is not directed at anyone. ...and I keep a list of bad clients or those who have wasted my time.

Ask the client for her contact information, he had to contact her somehow. Oh and then yes you do verify it online, search the information given, that's a part of the job to verify that the information is legitimate. If you cannot find any information, you just have a phone number that is unlisted and not searchable in any way then for all you know you could be contacting a friend and it's not a legitimate reference. You are trying to ensure your safety, if you take that seriously then you invest time in it, if it isn't a high priority then you take a risk seeing the client which is entirely your prerogative. Still there is no point in asking for references if you are not going to check them, it's just busy work for both you and the client.

Just wanted to know how a girl becomes a regular girl that you like to repeat with. Is it her looks. Her services. Amazing sex. chemistry or Connection. Genuinely enjoys your company. Make's you feel like a king? Funny, sense of humour. Feels like an old friend. Someone you can talk to about your personal secrets. PM's and emails after encounter. For me it is a combination of Chemistry, and someone who treats me like a king and genuinely likes me, and someone I would like to care about as a friend. Someone who has a good sense of humour and continues contact with me after we meet. Looks and services are not as important as the above. What are your criteria for a girl to become a girl that you would see regularly.

Started with Barbs at 4:00 pm. A few ladies already there that early among them Paris (cute blonde), Brandy (cute blonde), Vanessa (fair skinned brunette), Joy (Tiny ebony), Sabrina (tiny ebony with dyed pink hair) and a couple of others. Had my late lunch or early Supper at 4:30 and a few dances with Ebony Joy (open minded for Barbs standard and she dances at Pigale evenings) and after I saw all the ladies on stage I decided to leave just after 5:00 pm. Unlike previous weekends Jenny (the cerb popular tall blonde) was absent today!!. My two favorites (Hazel (the very kissable cute short hair fair skinned brunette) and Nikki (the pretty faced fair skinned brunette) both reviewed in Barbs thread) were both absent as well!!. Asked the Barbs DJ about Hazel's working days. Will go back soon to see Hazel. Arrived at Playmates around 5:30 (too early for Playmates). Ashley (early starter, slim brunette) on stage) and a few ebony ladies walking around. Hayley (the high mileage tinny cute blonde) and Teasy (the fair skinned cute faced with dyed red hair) (both reviewed in Playmates thread) were absent today again!!!! The Blonde Kim (sexy kitty fair skinned blonde, a bit on over weight side) arrived just before 6:00 but it was time for me to head to another bar. Arrived at Taboo around 6:30 pm. About a dozen dancers (mostly ebony ladies) and half a dozen patrons. More patrons arriving after 6:30 but most don't stick around for long. No stage dance until 7:30 (no wonder arriving patrons leave soon after arrival). Layla (the high mileage very cute fair skinned young girl), Ginger (high mileage large framed natural red head) and Ruby (the very fair skinned, high mileage small boobs natural redhead), all reviewed in Taboo thread) were all absent today!!!!!. I stayed until 7:45 as I was waiting for Pigale to open. Sabrina The very cute faced fair skinned very passive/shy brunette, who is reviewed in Taboo thread) arrived at 7:30 but was taken by another patron soon after coming out of changing room so I decided to leave to Pigale. Arrived at Pigale just after 8:00 pm. About half a dozen young patrons sitting around the stage and another half a dozen at tables. However there was stage dances one after another even with low number of patrons (unlike the other strip bars). Soon after 8:30 patrons started coming in teams. by 9:00 the bar was crowded. Ladies walking around and approaching patrons for dances. I was approached half a dozen times myself but targeted a young lady with a very pretty face (I am very selective on looks). Her name was Mila (from Ottawa). Not very high mileage but tall brunette with very pretty face and slender sexy body. Small boobs though. Two dozen or so dancers (none with fake boobs though so this is a change from the past for Pigale) and about 50 or so patrons and more coming. The number of dancers and patrons were increasing exponentially after 9:30. Had a second Supper (late Supper) at Pigale. No comparison with Barbs. Much better food at barbs for sure. Just before 10:00 it was too crowded and I decided to leave. ET.

What I am confused about is why all the emphasis on not being able to advertise your services anymore? Who cares! Clients are booking us for our time and for who we are. Words and phrases like sensual and romantic or wild and adventurous can direct a client to the right lady as easy as listing a menu. I have never had a menu in the last 5 years(except when working with an agency in the past on occasion years back) nor will I discuss any services with anyone. Good clients don't care what burger toppings are awaiting them. They want to spend time with the lady who caught their attention. Call me naive but when people contact me to spend time with me, the email exchange is more on us getting to know one another and rarely if ever on can I get xxx and does yhc include ccc. (and yes 90% of those dates are declined and on my blog) Give it time, educate people and enjoy what comes from it. It will be a learning process for all of us.

Some are even worse, they hold kittens LOL Or pet a dog It doesn't mean anything, they're still dorks And cruel to animals RG

Politicians are ID'd because people *know* who they are and they are usually arrested in the process. It has nothing to do with looks or seaman (lol) or outing by sex workers. Also, everything you are doing: seeing reputable ladies, following screening, etc. isn't going to get you arrested or outed.

OMG, the shit that we put in our bodies! For many it is a realistic hope that this will cure the bastard known as cancer. For most, it is a painful, exhausting way to "live". If you know someone going thru treatment, give them an unexpected hug, call, kiss. If you know someone REALLY well, give them a blow job, or offer to provide DATY until you both pass out. It is all really, really appreciated Tom TheLiquor

You know there are not that many options... continue to trust the ladies like in the past... be sensible and continue the fun or over react... don't trust and just put your dick away and go home. Relax

Can't really put it into words....you might call it chemistry.But I do know from experience, even if the first visit was great.... the second or subsequent vivits will probably be better. The reason is trust, it is amazing what a difference that makes. It is amazing but, things get turned up a notch as the trust factor increases. I think it is just instinct, that sense that this is a good fit, that brings you back for more.

http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=196668&highlight=kelsey I had seen Kelsey's ads on BP for a while and also read a few reviews - some favourable and some neutral so I contacted her on cerb (Starbright). We exchanged a number of messages and I asked her to send some real pics which she did. The pics she sent were more than enough for me to want to follow up with some personal experience. Definitely a tiny little spinner! Five feet nothing and no more than a 100 lbs. Dirty blond hair, perky little tits, very slim and tiny and a cute face. She looks young but is of legal age. After seeing her pics, we exchanged texts and lined up a visit with this little minx. Hotel location was ok and easy to get to. Entering her room, I was greeted by this little spinner dressed in stockings and lingerie that I had requested - wow I was ready! We started with some LFK and moved onto DFK. She quickly got down to just her stockings and me down down to nothing over some very easy and pleasant conversation and kissing. She immediately went down and got personal with my cock and oh how she can suck - deep throat and this little thing she does on the head in her mouth - absolutely yummy! After enjoying her skills, I dove on into partake of dinner at the Y until her nectar was running and that very little flower had opened. She really seemed to enjoy the fingering and tongue combination. Did I mention she is tiny and tight? Back and forth with DATO in doggy with some accompanying bbbj and I was ready. Dressed him up, lubed up that tiny little ass and began to fuck that tight little butthole while she rubbed her pussy and moaned and writhed with what seemed pure desire. I pounded that little butt while she pushed back and then switched to CG to see how well she could ride him in greek. She can ride! After a while I flipped her over onto her stomach and continued with the greek experience until I popped in the cover in that tight little ass. We lay there for a moment and then she began a massage sitting on my my legs while I was face down. Kelsey did loosen up my back and relaxed my body completely - she has strong hands and it was a great massage. Then she whispered in my ear that it was time to continue. I rolled over and she went to work with Mr. J again while I rubbed her pussy and clit which was wet. As soon as he was up and ready, she covered him up and moved to the edge of the bed in doggy, looked back over her shouler and asked me to fuck her pussy. I slipped into that wonderful, tight pussy while looking down on her back and that wonderful spinner ass. I pounded that little box while she pushed back and looked back with those eyes until she gasped and I exploded at the same time. Wow - she is great! Kelsey never watched the clock and never asked to hurry things along. The hour was perfect and she delivered! I'm going to repeat many times with her. Kelsey is really the typical GND and classic spinner. Tight, young body with a youthful innocence and she is enthusiastic and genuinely enjoys what she is doing! Tristan :bddog:

Hi! I am quite new for this site, as I joked with a service provider I still have my new car smell. Some recent events in my life lead me here, things that I won't get into for this thread. I was referred by a friend, who has had this lifestyle for a quite some time. I, like so many hobbiest came to this site not quite sure what they are looking for or how to proceed. I did read a bunch of threads and picked up on the Do's and Dont's quite quickly. Learning the etiquette for service providers isn't the easiest thing. I found myself challenged quite a number of times. After doing more research I figured out finally that I did want to become a hobbiest. I spoke with a few SP's over the last weeks and decided to book one in via this site (PM). I have a phone, but it's a work phone and it's monitored. Anyways, the following information I hope makes it easier for any other hobbiest that's going through the same motions and train of thought. I followed etiquette to the T with the SP, but once I got there it was entirely different than perception. What do I mean? I am a guy, I'm 30 years old and I love women. I love oral, I love sex, I love it all. Before the service call; I was ready to roll! Happy to try it out.. having a girlfriend for an hour! :) Closer to time, I grew a bit nervous. What if the service isn't as expected? what I am not as expected? etc, etc, etc... I decided to go through with the service and the SP I chose was very good and take her time since it was my first time. Don't get me wrong, the initial shock goes away and you get to enjoy yourself. You get the pleasure you were looking for. As a hobbiest you need to realize that there's no chase for the service. There's no rush for it and that it will happen. That I think was the strangest feeling I got... the expected service was delivered without a chase for it. This might not make sense to any service providers. Anyways, that's just my two cents... I had a great time and I hope the SP did as well. If anyone is reading this, wondering if they should become a hobbiest... make the choice for you. This is my opinion :)

For whomever might be in need.

I suggest that you also ask the lady how many times they both have met. Personally, if the client has only saw the provider one time, I would consider the reference too weak, especially if she has no online presence. I would then ask for a deposit.

I keep track of everyone. Regardless of status. I do this for reasons being, who are you. Some people change there contacts, others just do it for there own reasoning( beyond my comprehension) I would never contact anyone without them stating it's okay on this date/time etc... As goes for outing a client, I'd be more freaked out about him outing me a as well in some sort of sick retalitation. Old saying still implies do to others as you wish upon yourself.

It just seems to be the most natural thing to do now. I don't even think about it. She is, to me, one of the most beautiful girls I have ever seen, let alone been with. I don't like to see a week (10 days max) go by that we don't have a rendez vous. Oh...and I never get tired of those...the flirting, teasing, the sex...the lounging, chatting and laughing...1 more sleep till I see her again.

Better yet.. write a "fictional story" on the internet that has nothing to do with an SP's website. Clients can go there to read it. Because it is not linked to her website, nothing can be proved. I'm thinking of implementing this as way to describe what a client can expect. I enjoy writing so this is what they can read and know what to expect so there is no confusion. I will not make a blind appointment without knowing what the client wants but I will not be discussing services over the phone or in text anymore either. They will be given a weblink to go and they can read my story. If the client wants to meet, he can call back with simply a "Yes, I'd like to meet for xxx amount of time" under the assumption that it is for time and companionship only. I've always been a clear communicator with my clients and this will not change. It will just be done a different way now.

That's *how* clients are verified: people know them or they are arrested. All arrests are public knowledge. If a provider says she saw you in the public or media, nobody cares unless you are Harper or MacKay. ;) And as others have noted, it's not very professional to out a client and a reputable lady wouldn't do such a thing.

I can say from being with her that her pussy is very neat & tidy. It is always neatly trim. She is very accommodating and enjoys spending time with people. I enjoy the time we spend together. The truth is she is great person to spend a few hrs with and I enjoy that. All the ladies I've spent time with are more then just an SP they are people who I have become friends with and enjoy there company. I hope they also enjoy spending that time with me. :-)

Curvy, busy blonde available to tease and please.

Some things never cease to amaze me.

I think probably the idea of outing clients was done in the heat of the moment, and should be taken with a grain of salt. I believe that the ladies would practice discretion in outing their clients as this would ruin their credibility if they did so. As for maintaining a client list, as a business owner they might keep records, although I don't think most do. You must remember that once you surrender the information you don't have any control of it. I wouldn't get too worried though as part of the fee is a guarantee of discretion.

For the most part, that is me as well. The first contact is through the email link in the website or sometimes via pm on boards (provided the SP has that option posted in her ad). In that initial contact is the phone # I will be contacting from as well to save confusion. One thing I would add is that in that first text, my first words are always, "Hello, my name is (insert first name), I am 54 yrs old and live in the area and saw your ad on CERB (or whatever). My handle there is "peacectryguy" Then the other pertinent stuff that was mentioned. I believe it is important to make an effort to show the lady you are on the level and a name and brief description does help in that. If they require more info, they can and will ask but it shows you are placing some trust in them and usually they feel better trusting you. It is a 2 way street.

When writing a pm, email or texting, please do not send one liners! Many times, it come across as being rude. Ive been on the recieving end of this threw txting, hence the reason why I do not text anymore to make a 1st appointment! WE can not hear your tone of voice, so when you send something like this: "WHEN CAN I SEE YOU?" It just sounds rude. First off, INTRODUCE yourself! Say hello, how are you, I am Mr.XXX. The reason why you are emailing or pm'ing: I am interested in meeting with you on this date and time for this long. A little about yourself, if your comfortable saying anything, some ladies actually request that you do, some don't. Then sign off... Looking forward to hearing from you, Until we meet, or what ever. When you write an actual pm or email, we WILL respond! When I see something that is not like the above described, I dont even want to put in the effort to respond, since you did not take the effort to say more than 3 or 4 words to me! And I am sure I am not the only lady that feels like that! And most importantly!! Read her Ads, website and profile!! They are very imformative. Hence the reason why we put so much effort into them! The effort your going to put in by pm'ing "Whats your rates?", "What time do you start?", or the big question, "What do you look like?" will be alot less than clicking your mouse on the link to her website/profile! You just look very lazy and disrespectful! We are not asking you to write an autobiography about yourself or a novel! 5-6 lines is not asking for much! I know some men are men of very few words, but if you cant take a few minutes to learn about us and say more then a few words, then imagin how we think the encounter will go with you?! Starting an email/pm politely can and will get you a better or if any encounter with your choosen SP/MA! ****************** I've searched and could not find a thread about etiquette on pm'ing, but found this thread, which only shows you how to START a pm: http://cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=15861 If I missed it someone let me know and Ill ask the Mod to add this post to it! Thanks, Tiffany Amber xoxo

Need a lady who's really excited doing this to a man

Got a ding bat cat here. To early in the morning meows. I swear she has a kitty alarm clock built into her. Dang. Young lad off to work by 5 am. She meows if he is not up. SO up at 7, more meows if she is not up. Argghhh!!! Let me rest silly cat. I need my handsome sleep ;-)

And one can't really compare what has happened in the U.S. with Canada Prostitution for the most part is illegal in the United States. LE likely puts pressure on an escort to reveal her client list in exchange for reduced/no charges. In Canada however, well until C36 becomes law, LE has no such leverage because prostitution is legal And the ladies in the US who have revealed client's names, IMHO are not professional. A rambling RG

My thoughts are with you Tom... while i have never had to fight the battle that you are I have had 2 close family members who have battled cancer for almost 10 years... they like you inspired me beyond belief.

Maybe you should have told him you did not pay for sex either...and that you love to share a few beers with guys who not assholes... like him.

Why are you so ready to believe she actually did maintain and keep any kind of list? I don't know what the protocol on agencies is outside of Vancouver, but city biz licensing requires agencies to have full client details recorded and saved for a period of time. Record keeping is a requirement of that business that does not seem to be required of other types of businesses, for example. old story http://www.walnet.org/csis/news/toronto_99/torstar-991007.html

It's still included in the services page, and the ph# still there. I know that many clients don't read sites and ads fully, they might use the agency without realizing that is a service, but who does this other than someone who is exploiting/coercing sps or taking advantage possibly of new to biz or underage sps who don't know what they are doing. Considering it is an agency, advertising sexual services, and that is currently illegal, there is no reason why someone local to HFX can't report them to LE.

It's already in the warning section: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=632821#post632821 The SP you see in the pictures on BP was one of the SPs listed on TOP-HALIFAX-ESCORTS dot COM and for some reason, they recently removed all the profiles that were on there. I wonder why... Additional Comments: If you Google the phone number used in the BBFS BP ad 902-209-9575 you will be surprised to see what type of information appears in the results. Interesting, to say the least. Plus, this number is being used by a so called escort agency named "Great Girls". See the Yellow pages: http://www.yellowpages.ca/bus/Canada/Great-Girls/100464013.html

I really don't enjoy non-talkers, and those who just jump in right away - hey, warm up the pan before throwing in the sausage HUGE turn offs for me as an SP are men who just try to stick their tongues down your throat. I enjoy kissing, but not with someone who just wants to play tonsil hockey

I'm a member of them all .... I only post on the western / eastern boards when touring, so I'm not involved in the daily discussions. I find on terb people are more honest and I get into less trouble. I can relax, be myself, post honestly and frankly and I get a ton of respect there. You've got to be able to take it when you dish it out. I've had my wrists slapped more than once here ... all well deserved according to the guidelines, but I have to check myself. For someone who's always misbehavin' that's a challenge! ... and not that an occasional spanking is a bad thing :p

I think with C36 it'll be dangerous to start talking/texting/emailing about money for services. Keep talk/texts/emails to money is for time and companionship, nothing about sex for money A rambling RG

Cerb......fun friendly great place for information on all sorts of ladies and topics. Terb......very often a sandbox with people throwing sand at eachother, but still some good information Merb... Mostly montreal stuff Posted via Mobile Device

I am writing here because I realized some gentlemen are asking questions about me so I will give you the information. I just transformed a room in my house in a Tantra Temple ( big fire place, exotic decorations, warm atmosphere, candles everywhere. I offer a moment of pure pleasure and kindness. My massage is inspired from the Kama Sutra book of love (exotic technics) and the quality and cares I provide are VIP. I know how to give a good tantric massage because I have 10 years of experience and I learned from Masters in India 10 years ago. What is Tantric? In the beginning it was a movement of protestation from a group of person who believed the divine could be reach by the sexuality. Like we all know, back those days, sex was banned and people were considering it as impure. Tantric is there to prove us that the divine can be reach by the sensual touch and the goal is to get the most powerful orgasm possible (by the lingam and the kundalini). Feel free to ask me questions, I am very friendly and humanist. I am a nice girl, I treat my costumers just like kings. I will make you very happy. I know I am not supposed to write here because it s a review site, but I saw how many people were asking about me. So kindly I answer to you Gentlemen. With love, Liberty

Sending out hugs and supportive energy to everyone who is having thoughts or feelings about those no longer with us. This is a time to give thanks for what we have or people who have touched us and this can sometimes be bittersweet. Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened - Dr. Suess Love never dies, it just transforms.

Someone has to be first !

Just call me "Niagara Nicki". lol.

When you send a PM requesting information such as availability, please respond to the response. I answer each and every PM as quickly as possible and if between 8am and 8pm it's usually within 30mins. When I get a PM asking if I am available at, let's say, 10:30am tomorrow morning and I reply within 10 minutes saying, not until 11:30; common decency indicates that you let me know that it's not convenient...even if it takes you 12hrs to reply, a reply is warranted!!!!!!!!!!!