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Not to mention that it would be hard to keep this thread going if there was no Barb's :). This has always been my favourite club in Ottawa, since I first came here. It's full of great memories for me, of amazing women and fun times, of dances in the cr with spectacular beauties (sometimes more than one at a time :)), of friends to meet up with and chat with, of being greeted by gangs of hotties in the days when I went there a lot; a good place to relax and admire and be well entertained. Thinking of the duos with Ariel and Scarlette, and Ariel and Claire Heavens, and Ariel and Bridgette, and just Ariel :); sexy Josée from Montreal; Mel, Jenny, Nicole, many many more. I don't want this to sound like a dirge, and I hope that the place will thrive and be around for years to come. But I am feeling sentimental tonight, for all the good times. At Barb's. Here's to it!

I don't want this to sound like a dirge, and I hope that the place will thrive and be around for years to come. But I am feeling sentimental tonight, for all the good times. At Barb's. Here's to it! ah , yes ! the Sunday night oil wrestling , the limo rides on Monday nights and the bucket of beers on Wednesday nights . in the early 90's living just around the corner from barb's , friends and I saying we will just go for a couple to start the night off and than next thing we know the lights are on . Hmmm , good times , if I remember correctly , had a couple drinks don't you know ...... lol

I love kissing but because I advertise primarily massage, the kissing activities are kept for those I have built a rapport with in my companionship services. I have noticed a trend where men I have met for massage tend to set boundaries with intimacy..many aren't that comfortable with those activities so I prefer to build a rapport with people first and then if it happens, it happens. But I do love kissing....

I know this has been covered, but without kissing, what's really the point of all the rest. For me, this hobby is about intimacy. I realize that this is precisely why some providers would prefer not to kiss, but for me it really is crucial. Without it, no matter how great everything else might be, I'll be disappointed with the session. It doesn't rule out a repeat, as I've found with some providers kissing gets better over time, but it definitely makes it less likely.

Finally got a chance to come in this weekend and try a couples nuru massage session with Rose. That was a lot of fun... my wife really enjoyed it. I'd done a solo nuru session with Rose before this -- she's such a cutie with a devious smile and, from the right angles, a truly perfect round butt. She's also quite personable, fun to talk to, and has some pretty ambitious plans of her own. Ran into Faye briefly on the way out, who has just a hint more of the girl next door look than you'd imagine from the pictures online (in addition to being pretty darn hot). The room had a bit more decor than a couple months ago.... the club seems to be coming together. I think Jessica is building something special with Brass. From what I can tell the girls seem to genuinely enjoy working there.

so he turned to lyla's chicks for attention! (sue me.. there's 8.... but read it.. it's grrreat! oh nooo I've got rhyming disease!)

I am excited first time coming there to just relax and not anything else .. :) getting self prepared for next year's milestone lol thanks again everyone .. couldn't think of anywhere i would rather be after these really really bad months xo

In Halifax, I would recomend Mariner & Mariner Counselling, they are a couple but you can see either one of them or both. I met with Anne for a few months for some sexual issues, this was about 15 years ago but she was very kind and helpful, made me feel very comfortable discussing my issues, nice lady. They are both university educated with advanced degrees and licensed. Still in the same spot on Spring Garden Rd http://www.mariner-mariner.ca/

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I remember hearing that the owner had a lease for at least a few more years. I agree with Jack2000 - more lovely ladies than patrons isn't such a bad thing :-)

I have a few thoughts on this subject generally based on two themes, diversity and regular contributions. Since I'm already retired my own strategies may be a bit different. Real estate has been mentioned several times. One has to live somewhere so I think it is a great way to accumulate wealth. It is one investment which can be a buy and hold. If selective and not into speculation one of it's attractions is that one locks into regular payments, and if you have a bit of extra cash you can accelerate the payout by extra lump sums on the anniversary. I had two houses and will probably sell the second for 500k in the next few years and help fund my retirement. I no longer manage my investments but pay a percentage based of the asset value. As for diversity, my retirement income now comes from 7 different sources, don't think you will have a comfortable income retiring on the CPP. The only direct investment I do now is in equity in my TFSA. There is an old theory that goes something like you invest an equivalent percentage in relation to your age in safe fixed income and the rest in riskier equities. I am swimming against the current here as I maintain a higher risk tolerance for my age as I subscribe to the notion that I might need the extra income as our life expectancies are increasing. I guess the moral of the story is find a way to save on a regular basis as compounding over the years is your best friend.

I had the pleasure of meeting the lovely luscious Lacey on Thursday, what a beautiful lady she is. spent a wonderful hour with her, gfe service with lots of dfk. her body is amazing, great butt. will repeat again for sure. on my way in cross path with her duo partner Nally, looks beautiful and friendly might have to try a duo next time.

I have seen her multiple times and always enjoyed myself with her. We had good chemistry together. However I haven't seen her since she's been back. I have contacted her but I've had a hard time matching my schedule with hers.

Went to see this lovely lady a couple days ago. I'll tell you now, if you go see any girl here, Julie is a must see. Her smile is gorgeous, her body is amazing, and omg that voice of hers give me a smile every time I hear it. She is very kind, and she met my needs with ease. I'll be sure to come back soon and see her again!

I love kissing! I enjoy when a man has full soft lips with tiny nibbles! The sweetest thing ever.

Rates are on their website, but only once you've logged in, which requires joining, I think. They're pretty much the same as other spas, though

Just be your beautiful self. That's what I do - and from one curvaceous lady to another..... I do just fine on this site and have met with plenty of nice men who LOVE my shape and size. Xo

I entirely agree with you on this but I think committing is a very strong word when it comes to something as intimate as kissing with someone you've never met. I personally never commit to anything especially with patrons I've never met, I do enjoy kissing but I wouldn't feel comfortable kissing someone with poor dental hygiene and if I commit to that then I'd be failing to provide something I promised, I recently read a thread about how there's no contract between us companions and our guests and having to commit to kissing or any other activity does sound like a contract to me. I like how someguy phrased his question 'if kissing may be allowed' which is a nice way to discuss his preferences with the lady he's planning to visit without making her feel obligated to it. My suggestion for those that want to make sure kissing is offered is to offer the same kind of commitment you're expecting from your provider, make sure to have impeccable hygiene at the time of your session and if she offers mouthwash use it even if you think you don't need it or bring your own,the travel size bottles are awesome for that and they sell them everywhere. Happy Kissing! :makeout:

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Touching, cuddling, kissing are very important to me. I love sweetness. It makes the best dates...

If we can't kiss i don't want to see you.It's my favorite thing! kissing and cuddling are a must! Otherwise you may as well watch porn lol because you don't need me.

It is such an incredible feeling of intimacy that towards the end of the lovely encounter, we held each other tight while at the same time caressing and kissing each other!

A session without the kissing or cuddling is just not the same. The lack of affection at home is the reason some of the men come to see the women here. Kissing is an important part the Intimacy and chemistry. Otherwise what's the point, you might as well stay home and be intimate with yourself :)

For me kissing is probably my biggest turn on. Nothing gets me more excited than deep, passionate kissing with a beautiful, sensual and romantic woman. Running my hands through her hair or gently running my finger tip down her back...then pulling her in to the point of our bodies melding in to one...that's just hot! I've been told time and time again I'm a good kisser, and I've been fortunate enough to have been with many women who know a thing or two about kissing. As for hugs, I am a notorious huger. I pretty much hug everyone and anyone. Nothing says I care more than giving someone a genuine, heartfelt hug!

For me Kissing and cuddling is a huge thing that I think is crucial to the connection you have with the lady you are meeting. My most memorable encounters have been with ladies who right from the start greet you with a passionate deep... long kiss. Just my opinion

Just came back from seeing Meloide from CMJ. She provided a wonderful hour with more passionate kissing and cuddling and hugs then I am used to getting. It's a YMMV experience, we had already gotten to know each other for the last couple of months chatting in the chat room. So meeting was easy as we knew a lot about each other. There was a lot of chemistry between us and plenty of kissing made this an outstanding session. She loves kissing and is very good at it. But as always YMMV

I think the "I don't want to know..." sentiment is completely legitimate. To open up a conversation about what you are doing, and why, could potentially result in a conversation your significant other is simply not ready to have yet. Ignorance is blissful, to a certain extent, and sometimes the status quo is preferable to change. For a lot of clients in the industry, there are financial dynamics between their significant others' and themselves, children, a property or multiple properties... I'm sure I don't need to tell you how complicated all of that is. Even if there's a glimmer of suspicion, I can totally see why someone would decide not to address it until they are ready (or they have to because it's overt). I guess the thing I like the least, to be honest, is when someone is 'almost caught' and/or 'caught' but feels like they've dodged a bullet and then proceeds to tell me about it. As a service provider and as a woman, I don't actually want to know when some of the clients I've met have dodged their own bullets, or the reasons they give their SOs to come and see me. There are some things about the lives of my clients that I simply don't want to know. I think that's valid. I have great (and I mean great) respect for clients who speak to me of their significant others with respect, and with a nuanced understanding of lives and how complicated they can be. The double life is a difficult one to lead, but I don't necessarily want to be privy to all of the details... I'm really sorry Someguy, but I don't want to hear about the moments where people have almost been caught, or been caught, and what their significant others think of that. It feels really personal and could (potentially) be disrespectful too, no?

Extremely important. In fact that is what motivated me to seek out a SP the very first time. I was craving a hug and no one would indulge me. :( I had not received a hug in 11 long years. Not since my last relationship in 2000. As for the kissing and cuddling, that is an extra bonus. Now, that is what I ask for up front when arranging to see a SP. Without those three things, the sexy frisky part just isn't worth it. IMHO.

I'm the self proclaimed Queen of Cuddles - hee hee!! :icon_lol: If a gent is not interested in snuggles, it sort of makes me feel...well, just not very nice. Compatibility is key in a fun, successful session - I loves my Snuggle Bunnies! ;)

Hugs are great, but sometimes hard to come by: :)

Great conversation, cuddles, kissing and hugs are the best part -- without them I may as well stay home and toss in a video.

I'm with Porthos. I'd take (and have taken) a passionate session of body to body contact with lots of kissing, tenderness and holding over "just sex" any day. To me it's a critical component of a great experience. Just as an aside, with a lady that I happen to have really great chemistry with I've chosen to have a passionate kissing, cuddling only session with intentional denial of sex on my part. Honestly, it was so hot and intense that we were both left raging with a pent up lust and an ache for the inevitable conclusion. The next 24 hours were excruciatingly painful waiting for the minutes to pass (for her too apparently) until we saw each other again. Seriously, the second I burst through the door the next day it was like a frantic inferno. Fuck that was hot!

As a fetish provider, I don't offer GFE (more like "friends-with-benefits" experience?) so kissing doesn't tend to happen. But hugs? Sure. I mean, as a very tall woman who offers Size Comparison, full-body contact and feeling enveloped are integral to the experience. But beyond that? Hugs are wonderful. They're a lovely way to welcome someone into my space and let them know they're... "not just a number", y'know? Hugs are important. :-)

Recently I had a second session with a Sp that I just started seeing. I asked for extra kissing and cuddling. It was more then I could ask for, she kissed me passionately for a while, and through out the session. licking my ears and nipples. At the end we just cuddled and chatted for awhile before it was time to go. It made it a fun and exciting date.

If I can't cuddle and kiss you I don't want to see you. Love my cuddles and kisses!

I just had an amazing session with one of my favourite GFE MA's. Hadn't seen her for a while and I was a bit starved for affection and requested extra kissing and cuddles. I got more then I expected, kissing from start to finished. It's nice to be with a girl that enjoys kissing, especially when she has her eyes close and seems to be really enjoying herself. Plenty of cuddles, and several times we just had some nice tight hugs. Nothing better then hugging a beautiful sexy girl naked :). I left feeling happy and relaxed. Felt like a good makeout session with a girl friend when I was a teen.

What? I thought cuddles, kissing and hugs were what I was paying for and all the rest was just add-ons! (Tongue firmly in cheek)

Totally depends on the nature of the session. Most of the time I'm after some mutual affection and a sense of connection at least as much as any sexual "release". For these GFE sessions there's lots of gentle intimacy, strokes and cuddles, and laughter -- humour is one of the most important parts of a human connection for me and lets me know I'm comfortable and in a natural shared headspace with my companion. Plus kisses, cuddles, and just curling up and feeling each other breathe. But that said: sometimes I'm after something a bit more purely lustful and irrational, a little darker and fetishy, maybe with some roleplaying that makes the situation purposely artificial. In that case... sometimes that shift in context is part of the point, and affectionate strokes and cuddles would get in the way of that other emotional space you're actually aiming for. It's a matter of: which part of my sexuality wants to come out to play today? What I can tell you is that if I'm after that second kind of encounter, the lady will know in advance so we're both on the same page from the start (!).

Indeed, I could not have said it better... but I would not go as far as saying the climax is secondary though, the glide back down to earth WITH the hugs and cuddling is the total package.. my 2c..

On this question, I don't seem to be any different than most here, as I consider cuddling and kissing to be very important in a GFE encounter. It adds so much to the experience that I just wouldn't book anyone that I knew that didn't offer it. The ones that don't have their good reasons and I respect that, but for me it's nothing short of a deal-breaker to not be able to feel the closeness, body heat, and intimacy these activities offer (although of necessity within time and other limits). I always cherish those make-out moments among the most. And so far I've not fallen deeply yet, as I know to separate the worlds. FR

I fully endorse everything Tiff wrote. There is an instant intimacy created by kissing. IMHO this adds greatly to any encounter. Of course, good oral hygiene is a must. There is nothing worse than kissing someone with bad breath. But, soft lips, sweet breath and an inviting, playful mouth are always welcome.

Extremely important. If it's not an option, I won't book. As someone else said, I can always give myself an orgasm alone, but those things, I can't. I understand that some ladies don't want to and respect that. However, that's my needs. Just like I wouldn't go see an RMT if I want a happy ending, or a MA if I want FS, I'll stick with the ladies that gladly offer what I love. =)

Another reason, which more that one SP has given me for excluding any kind of kiss from the session, is that it greatly increases the intimacy of the date. Thereby increasing the likelihood that one party will develop an undesired emotional attachment. Not everybody can always separate physical and emotional love. I can respect an SP wanting to minimize the chance of a guy getting an unhealthy crush (or vice versa). Overall I consider kissing a nice bonus, but not a requirement for good GFE date.

How important? On a scale of 1-10, 11.

I would agree with the general consensus. However, I don't think it's something that can always be expected and forthcoming. Many girls are reticent about the kissing for a number of reasons, health, and it is a very personal thing that they might reserve for their boyfriends or SOs. That said I do like kissing and cuddling and tend to go back and see the girls that are receptive.

To me, cuddling, kissing and hugging are part of the GFE that I crave and cherish so much. The whole GFE is why I go to see my ATF's again and again. I would venture that the time spent on cuddling, kissing and hugging contitutes about 70% of the total time I will spend with my beautiful ladies.

Jesus, I'm getting a chubby just reading this...

This is a very common thing with the ladies... Always looking for the "Reason" the business gets slow at times and always looking for answers as to why they get no shows and cancellation more at different times of the year. Most NO SHOWS can be stopped by screening your calls properly. Use the Caller ID and CALL BACK the number to verify it. Most guys will not pull a NO SHOW on someone without having the decency to call and properly cancel if you have their number. They know that come appointment time one very upset SP is going to give them a call asking WTF! It's not 100% but it sure helps for those who screen calls. It also makes the call a little more safer as that phone number is now a connection between the guy and the lady... I doubt someone dangerous is going to want to leave a number that can be traced back to them. Most of the ladies look for reasons when things are slow. I guess most of us do that when the business we are in takes a drop in sales/traffic/work load/etc.... You can spend a good portion of your day trying to figure this one out but it's not really worth the effort. It's WAY easier to just plan for these lows (Put some money aside for the slow periods) and just accept that this is part of EVERY business and it will happen. Stop stressing out and trying to point a finger at what you think is causing the slowness as your just going to convince yourself of something that is probably not correct. We have been tracking patterns in this industry since 1996 and the answer for this is... (Drum roll please)... It has no pattern EXCEPT for a few obvious LOW spots. 1) The end of Aug is SLOW every year! (Kids out of school, getting ready to go back to school, family summer vacations, etc...) This is the most popular summer weekend in the tourist industry!! 2) 1 week before and 1 week after Xmass (No need to explain this one right?) New years day too? NOT... 3) January/February for 2 weeks every year (We sum this up to winter blues and getting your credit card statements from Xmass! but we never know what two weeks it will be but for sure 2 weeks around this time it does drop... one year we did not see this and come April we saw a real low drop for 2 weeks and that was obvious weather patterns (Long winter/early spring ... warm winter/cold spring etc...) it does effect this business and you never know when this is coming exactly... so just put some cash aside for these times. 4) First nice weekend of spring (A lot of the ladies take this time off too) 5) Thanksgiving, Easter, Valentines, long weekends, really large sporting events (etc)... they also effect the business. The rest has NO identifiable pattern. You can try to blame it on the economy as a low economy brings more people into this business causing more competition and the overall amount of "Recreational money" the guys have gets a lot smaller so yes the economy does effect it but a low economy BUT it also brings more guys (New guys) in to the mix as well so it's not hit as hard as one would assume. Remember money and sex are the two big things couples fight about... When the economy drops and the money gets tight the stress levels go up, the fighting between couples goes up and the sex stops!! FACT OF LIFE... and I hate to admit it but that is good for this business for all you ladies!! When economy starts to get good again business will decrease a little at first! It's OPPOSITE of what everyone ASSUMES! As for NO SHOWS... This time of year it will obviously be higher. Kids are still home from school, Family vacations, relatives coming for visits, back to school shopping, etc.. etc... and all those people taking time OFF work for family vacations makes other people have to work more (Overtime to cover shifts, higher work loads, etc) it's all relevant.... A lot of LAST MINUTE things come up this time of the year for the "Family Man" and well... kids and family (for most people) come first so recreational visits take a back seat so stuff will get canceled more this time of year. Picture this... The guy is all ready to come see the lady he has chosen and the door bell rings and it's his brother or uncle or who knows who just "DROPS BY" for a visit... URH!? Probably with his annoying kids and wife... (Many of us have been in similar situations) This happens EVERY YEAR... Come September 17th (Or around that time) once the kids are back in school and the routine is back... things will pick up. Summer sucks as a lot more things can get in the way or throw a guys schedule off. Don't spend all your time looking for reasons why the business slows down.... it happens to EVERY PROVIDER & EVERY BUSINESS ... It can not be busy 100% of the time and it does take a little planning and anticipation.