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There seems to be a lot of people missing the point. Yes, the Supreme court invalidated three parts of the Criminal Code dealing with Prostitution. So in one year, all things remaining equal, living off the avails, communicating for the purpose, and the bawdy house laws will no longer be valid. In practice I think you will be hard pressed to find any charges being laid under those three sections in the next year. But.... (and it is a big but), that is only if our current laws stay the same. Right now prostitution is legal in this country, and the ruling was made because those three laws were inconsistent with that fact and endangered people pursuing a legal means of work. If the Nordic model, or any other model comes in to effect, that makes exchanging money for sex illegal then all that hard work becomes moot. Brothels won't be legal, because selling sex will be illegal. All this will have been for nought. And stop blaming it all on Harper. He is only one part of this equation, and quite frankly I think he would rather avoid the debate. It is a politicial minefield. Start looking at the ridiculous and completely outrageous statements being made by people like the Elizabeth Fry Society, The Coalition for Abolition of Prostitution etc. etc. They are going to get the press, they are going to be exploiting others to get their point across. And it is not all right wing, nor left wing. It is just not church groups etc. It is a broad spectrum of people who want to criminalize prostitution, and they have a lot of tools to make their point. Target the right people, stop donating or working with groups that support criminalization. Speak out, and challenge the nonsense that we are already hearing, and are only going to hear more of in the coming months. Don't give the media ammunition. Yeah a hard fought battle was won on Friday, but it is going to be a long and bloody war.

The Nordic model cannot be what replaces our current laws. The SCC struck down these three provisions because they infringed upon the safety and security of workers in a legal business. Implementing the Nordic model would be like telling construction workers they can do their jobs, but anyone purchasing the services of a construction worker could be arrested. Criminalizing clients does nothing to address the dangers faced by workers; in fact, it would likely increase these risks as criminalized clients would not likely be willing to undergo screening. So if the Nordic model is implemented, it will be appealed under the same reasons, and likely be struck down under the same reasons. "Feminists" (read: abolitionists) who want to "save the women and punish the pimps/johns" ignores the fact that there are men and trans* people who are workers, and there are women and trans* people who are clients. Criminalizing clients is not the way to go. We as workers do not want this. As to this talk of workers who are being pimped/exploited/against their will -- we have laws against human trafficking and forcible confinement and exploitation of minors. We do not need laws specific to sex work addressing these issues because we already have laws against them. There are plenty of other employments where workers are trafficked or exploited, and we do not have laws specific to those employments (domestic care/services being a big one).

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You may very well be right ... although I'm not completely convinced. I'm not sure the cat burglar analogy works completely, because that situation does not involve a consensual transaction. In the nordic model you are criminalizing one half of a transaction; the purchase, but not the sale. If doing that puts the seller at risk then that clearly is a matter of concern and might fall afoul of the Bedford principles. Historically the court doesn't like doing things indirectly rather than directly. In other words, if criminalizing prostitution wouldn't pass charter scrutiny, why should criminalizing "parts" of it, when the intention of that partial criminalization is to prohibit the whole thing. This is, it seems to me, at the heart of the Bedford decision. The problem with the burglar analogy, is that you criminalize burglary, there aren't people out there actually wanting to be burgled. You criminalize the purchase of sex, there are people wanting to sell that service. I haven't had my morning coffee, so none of that might make any sense whatsoever. Cheers, Porthos

I was privileged to to partake in some of the Christmas activities at the Fat Bastard Compound. Old Dog and Phaedrus managed to get the tree up. Notch did his community service in the town's local Christmas parade: Lee drove in from Manitoba with his decorated truck - the added bonus hopefully to scare off the deer and moose he occasionally comes into contact with. Roaming Guy managed to get all the gift packages ready for ladies.

Eversince I read the rave reviews of Hannah Star here and elsewhere, I have been wanting to see her. But because she moves among a few nearby cities, it was a little bit difficult to book her. Recently, I seized a rare opportunity and saw her after we exchanged a few text messages and emails. I am so glad I did - she was as friendly as her texts and emails indicated. Hannah is young, sweet, cute and pretty as everyone mentioned. She is down-to-earth, warm and superfriendly, just as her email address suggests. She welcome me with a big hug and lots of dfk's - the temperature outside was (bitterly!) cold, but her toned and tight body was warm and her warm welcome really warmed me up quickly! :shehot: We found our way to her bedroom and soon, I went to work on her lovely spinner body. She loved the way I pleased her orally and seemed to really enjoy it. Then she returned the favor and gave a very enjoyable wet bbbj. I had to stop her after a while as I was eager to get on to the main act. :icon_biggrin: After a hot, erotic and very blissful session, we were exhausted and just cuddled up and chit-chatted. That's when I discovered that Hannah is very athletic and she loves sports such as skiing (snow-boarding) and ice-skating, the two winter activities that I love too. We also found out that we are both animal-lovers. Although it was the first time we met, we were very comfortable with each other. Her service was first rate as she spared no effort to provide me with the warmest and a super-friendly girl friend experience. I have no hesitation to recommend her to anyone and she surely will be my repeat as well.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/top-court-strikes-down-canada-s-overly-broad-anti-prostitution-laws-1.1601790

Thanks all for the congrats. Pretty much all of you know I have a weakness for itty bitties and redheads... and for the great ladies I have met through cerb. Happy to count many of the gents of cerb as friends. This is a great community. Imagine, nearly five years since I became a member... Time flies! Best wishes to all at this time of celebrations. toine

You've only got one more Saturday before she goes away for a while!

My mother is dealing with cancer for the third time in her life. The first time was cervical cancer in the late 70's; The second time was breast cancer last year; and now she has bone cancer. She will will be spending the holidays in the hospital. In January she will be going to a long term care facility.

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Stopped in at Barb's Saturday afternoon. It is always a mystery to see who is there. Some of my best Barb's memories have been at this time. This Saturday the lineup was very strong: Bridgette, Jenny, Maxime, Jolie, Jordan, Dakota, as well as several new faces (for me at least). Not bad for maybe 12 customers!! Caught up with our Bridgette and as usual shared some laughs. A little private time also ;) Anyway if you are venturing DT on the weekend it is worth a stop. One thing to note: non-stop 80's music! Good for some. Not so much for others...

Thank you so much for your perspective. It's is always valuable to here the thoughts and perspectives of courtesans and agencies. There are currently a number of agencies sending courtesans to Halifax on a regular bases. Maybe, one day, we will be lucky enough to have your agency on that list.

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Most years I write a tale for the holiday season, and this year is no exception. I hope you folks enjoy it. Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah, and all my best wishes for your holidays no matter what beliefs you hold. bb ........................................................................................................................-- The snow crunched underneath my boots and my breath trailed behind me as I walked away from my car. It's only a short walk over to her place. The time will give me a few minutes to relax and burn off a little nervous energy before I see her. I pull my gloves on and turn my collar up against the cold. It's always an occasion to see her. It's almost like the first time, every time. I chuckled to myself. I guess it is the first time, every time, for her. I got my first inkling of that, that very first time I saw her. She asked me what I'd like to wear, and I'd asked for an outfit out of the few that she suggested. I got there and she was running a little late, the time had gotten away from her. When I walked through her door, she wore a sexy outfit that I definitely appreciated, but it wasn't what we talked about. But no matter, clothes are just the wrapping on the present. I kissed her then. Softly, sensually. I slipped my fingers behind her and caressed the back of her neck. She breathed deeply and luxuriated in our kiss before pulling away and looking at me in wonder. She does this every time. I kiss her and she always looks at me with surprise, that I know exactly how she likes to be kissed. Why, I should know by now. She always asks me how I am, how my day went, in the light conversation of strangers. And though I actually know quite a bit about her by now, I don't let on because I don't want to make her feel uneasy. She never recalls that she's told me about her life, her mother, her little dog from when she was 12. No, I'm a stranger to her every time. But I like to think I'm a wonderful stranger every time. I guess it's true that she never really remembers what I like most, and that's too bad. But I know just what she likes, and I serve it up wrapped in the mystery that only a complete stranger can provide. We are reborn every time I cross her threshold. She gives her all to me every time. She truly lives in the moment, and lives and loves like there's no tomorrow. That's what keeps me coming back. Yet she always looks up at me in amazement and wonder, that I can satisfy her like I know just what she wants. We'll talk about the outfit she'll wear for me next time, the naughty things we'll do when I come by next. I just smile and nod. Because, you never know. These things just might happen, if only by chance. I'll leave her bed today, and she'll ask me misty-eyed if I would come by again. And I always say yes, and for only a moment I'll give myself the luxury of hoping that she'll remember me. I guess maybe she does remember me, just a little, on some level. Because she's always there, ready and on time. She never passes up a chance to have me come by and she never forgets our dates, even if I know she doesn't really know why she does. Perhaps this is a blessing in disguise to her. She'll never remember the rude, the cruel. She'll never remember the smelly, the unpleasant. But unfortunately, it also means she never really remembers me. I reach into my coat pocket, and feel the small box wrapped in red and green sparkly paper. It's just a little something for her, from one of those trendy shops in the Village. It's a necklace with a little bird pendant. It's just a little bauble in my namesake. The bird holds a tiny gem in its beak, and the gem is in her favorite color. I know she'll ask me how I know it's exactly what she likes, and I'll just shrug and smile. I'll let her unwrap my gift, and then I'll put the necklace on her. Perhaps she'll touch it or see it in the mirror later, and remember me. Perhaps. I'm almost at her door. I see children playing, and I glance over to listen to their laughter. They're making snow angels. I smile at the sight, and keep walking. I'm going to meet a snow angel of my own, soon. We'll frolic, laugh, have fun. In our spirits, we'll make our mark in the snow, echoes of the heaven that we glimpse. And I'll get up and leave, and our figurative angels will fill in and drift over. Our impressions in time and memory will be quickly lost, under a blank slate of pure white. I'll be forgotten all too soon, not long after I leave. But she'll remember me just enough to make it to our date, the next time. And knowing that is her gift to me. My footsteps crunch as I walk up to her door and knock.

Twas the night before Christmas, his wife gone to bed, while visions of ladies still danced in his head. Shopping completed, he'd worked like an elf, Presents galore for all but himself. But he'd been a good boy for most of the year, And knew he had earned some holiday cheer. So he opened his laptop and kept it discreet, Then started the search for his own Yuletide treat. CERB dot ca was his best Christmas guide, Which beauty to meet all that's left to decide. With pages of ladies that beat any toy, Reco's from Jabba, Notch and Cowboy... You'd think a to-do-list would some day get done But instead it keeps growing one after one. Rebbeca or Jessica...Emily J? Sweet Sami or Mia for an evening of play? Then there's Cleo and Kathryn, two of the best, Of course not forgetting Jessy Celeste. Cute aza Button, SP or MA... An hour of pleasure's a phone call away. So with homework complete and a grin ear to ear, He proceeded to dial his gift for the year. "Come down through my chimney, but don't make a sound, We'll have to quiet there's someone around." Then hanging his phone he sat with delight, And imagined the things he'd be doing tonight. When lickety-split as agreed on the matter, From the roof top there came a small pitter patter. In stockings and garters she made her way through, And stuck a long leg from the fireplace flu. Then squeezing the rest of her through that tight space, She arrived at the man's with the grin on his face. "You're just what I wished for...an angel in Body, let's make our way on to the list of the naughty" So quickly they reached a state of undress, Then she straddled his lap and took charge of the rest. When almost he entered her heavenly place, His eyes caught the sight of a family face. A girl on his lap, his wife now standing by, He knew it was time to make up a lie... "My dearest! You missed him! You just missed Saint Nick!" (He thought up his lie, and he thought it up quick) "Look what he brought us...he thought it'd be fair, To bring us this wonderful gift we could share." "After all the unwrapping I read the instructions, And was just going to call you for your introduction" His wife stood there puzzled and then asked her guy... "How'd you think Santa had known I was bi?" "This secret I've kept since my days back in college, And nobody knew to the best of my knowledge... ...There must be a Santa I truly believe! cause look what he brought us on this Christmas Eve!" "I don't mean to be selfish, may I try her first? I think she will quench my bi-sexual thirst." So the husband stood by for a show quite devine, With his wife and the lady discovered online. And when it was over he stumbled to bed, With a vision he'll never get out of his head. And the lesson he learned after all that he'd done? ...Don't tell the truth if lies are such fun. Merry Christmas

Let's get creative folks:) Let's see who can come up with cute sexy and naughty Christmas poems:) MUST WRITE YOURSELF! YOU MAY USE RHYME TOOLS:) CAN BE A POEM, STORY OR A SONG:) I will submit this one, I wrote it last year:) On a cold and stormy night, here sits Mrs. Clause. She is restless as she awaits for her Santa Clause! Now her dear Santa has been too busy spreading joy, to all the good little girl's and boy's. A satin red and white teddy, she slips on but now may have to wait until dawn! She thinks about CERB, and creates an ad. Asks herself " should I be bad? " Stocking and garter's are on and are lips glistening red Her first date arrives and his name is Ted. He lays her down and removes her teddy panting and moaning she seems to be ready! Both with messy hair, and desire have been fulfilled He says to her" Thank you Mame, it sure was a thrill!" Passes her unsealed envelope, I will call you again! Now Mrs Clause surely can not complain! Written By Sophia Varoushka:smile:

A really nice blue dress from Le Chateau. That was one of my XMAS gifts to me-only a few more to go :boobies:

Better to get the call, then not and have it much worse! Yes, I had a wake up call with my SO this winter! It was an eye opener. We are changing some lifestyle habbits and liking them:)

Glad to hear you're OK. Whenever you're tempted to light up a cigarette, just aks yourself is there is anything more fun out there you could possibly be saving that money towards. Not all butts are bad for your health! ;)

In light of the Supreme Court's reasoning, I don't think the Nordic Model is an option for Canada any more. It may be a political option, and many groups are advocating for it. In addition it superficially seems like a reasonable compromise to many people who don't know anything about the business. It is also appealing to people who just want to just "pull a solution off the shelf" and apply it without any thought. However, I don't think it will pass the standards which the Supreme Court has set. If the Nordic Model is used as the basis for new prostitution laws in Canada, the Supreme Court will likely strike them down too. The underlying reasoning running through the Supreme Court's decision for throwing out the current prostitution laws is twofold. First, prostitution is legal and secondly, the current prostitution laws put sex workers at unreasonable risk of harm, especially street prostitutes. Under the Nordic Model it is still legal to sell sexual services and sex workers would still be exposed to all of the same unreasonable risks as the current prostitution laws, especially those working in street prostitution. If it becomes illegal to buy sexual services, it follows that sex workers can't have safe locations to provide the services such as brothels because clients can't go there. In addition it also follows that communication/screening, especially for street prostitutes, will have to be quick and cursory, (just as it is now) because their clients will be at risk of being charged. That continues to put sex worker's safety at risk. Adopting the Nordic model just puts us back where we are now. It has the same flaws that at least two of the current prostitution laws (prohibiting brothels and public solicitation/communication) have.

It's great to have an opportunity to redo and re assess . A few small life style changes can and will add up to big health paybacks . There are lots of people around both friends and qualified professionals to assist and get you going . Here is to the healthiest year of your life !!

The government may have lost this battle, but they'll win the war. If they enact the Nordic model, say goodbye to a lot of customers. I'm not going to chance it and I have a feeling I'm not the only one.

Good that you went and had things checked out.....some stubbornly don't and the consequences can be dire. Follow the good Dr.'s advice and all will be good. Hopefully you get phone access soon....need to be able to access CERB for a welcome distraction! All the best.

I agree. I don't really understand why, if the laws are deemed unconstitutional, as they have been, that they would give a stay of one year. It's basically saying: yes, we have determined that your constitutional rights are being broken, but we are allowing it to continue. Even the Federal Justice Minister Peter MacKay said himself: "A number of other Criminal Code provisions remain in place to protect those engaged in prostitution and other vulnerable persons, and to address the negative effects prostitution has on communities." He basically means that laws prohibiting violence & abuse, exploitation, slavery, kidnapping, unlawful confinement, rape, sex with a minor, coercion, trafficking, public nuisance, and commercial zoning laws are all still in place. That said, then what is the real purpose of keeping these other unconstitutional laws in place for another year? How is it not unconstitutional to keep unconstitutional laws in effect? There is a few reasons that come to mind. None of which I would condone.

There was a "SP counselor" on CBC who said every single one of the women who come to see her about leaving the business....want to leave the business. The media assume or claim all women in the business are victims and all customers are exploiting them. DUH! Obviously if they come to see a counselor for help on getting out of the business, then they want to get out of the business! Yes it seems obvious but the CBC and other media are using statements like this to prove that ALL the women in the business are therefore exploited and want to leave. Imagine doing a survey of cars at a brake repair place. Since all the cars there need brake repairs does that mean all cars everywhere need repair? Of course not. The real concern is that the TeaParty Conservatives are likely to draft draconian laws based on getting votes with no concern for the well being of anyone but themselves. Remember this is the party that said anyone who was against unlimited government access to YOUR emails and computers would only be opposed by pedos. Additional Comments: but I can't help myself. The last part of Kay's idiotic article says many of the prostitutes a madam knew are homeless, drug addicted and/or have committed suicide. How convenient that all prostitutes are identical, it makes them so much easier to write about. I know many members of the armed forces who are in the same boat. I had a severe drinking problem for several years after leaving the army. And I can name five or six guys offhand who have committed suicide or drank themselves to death. Maybe Kay should think about getting rid of the army? Or how about the police, some of them drink and suffer from stress? I guess it is beyong her imagination that some of us lowly non-journalists actually have minds of our own and can live happy productive lives without her guidance. Of course all ladies aren't happy hookers. And they aren't all helpless victims. They are a large, diverse group of people with different opinions, different backgrounds, and different goals. In other words, they are just like everyone else.

They haven't found the law illegal. They've found the existing laws inconsistent and unreasonable; given that the exchange of sex for money is legal, the SCC has ruled that the current restrictions around that are unreasonable. The reason the SCC hasn't struck down the laws immediately is that there are three ways Parliament could go to resolve this. First, they could do nothing and allow sex work to become much more legal in future (which, realistically, means leaving it up to provinces and municipalities to regulate); secondly, they could outlaw prostitution entirely (in which case that fact that other laws make it more difficult ceases to be an issue), or thirdly they could come up with an entirely new set of laws. Irrespective of the relative merits of those three options, the decision between them is the prerogative of the legislative branch of government, not the judiciary. What the judiciary has done - and IMO is entirely correct to have done - is to give the legislative branch a serious boot up the ass and force them to consider the issue, while also allowing them time to give the issue due consideration.

My apologies to anyone who booked or tried to book to see me today as I woke up not feeling 100%. I expect to feel my best for Sunday as per my regular schedule. Take good care. -Robyn xoxo

Some of my earliest favorites....Batman, Get Smart, Lost In Space, The Saint and The Man From U.N.C.L.E.

Much like the outdated marijuana laws......this is going to take awhile. Peace MG

The other thing I've been hearing today is talk around invoking the Nordic model, which would have the effect of criminalizing the client. What I don't particularly understand is this: Would not the Nordic model simply put the shoe on the other foot as it were, and still do nothing to resolve issues surrounding the safety of SPs? I don't see how this would be an acceptable solution bearing in mind the court's decision. Secondly, would not making prostitution illegal decrease safety levels for the ladies? In the States, the industry is thriving underground - undoubtedly, it would not simply cease to exist in Canada, either. Furthermore, on what grounds could the government make it illegal? The courts are not in the business of legislating morality, yet this appears to be the framework around which Conservative ideology is based.

My CERB Goddess of the Day today is Emily Rushton. You may ask why she is my CERB Goddess of the Day, when I have mentioned her twice in this thread already, both on her own, and combined with Lonna Lux. In previous mentions in this thread though, my focus was more on Emily as a great companion and contributor to CERB. But in posting in another thread, Reflections on 2013, a year overall which has been a bad year for me, I realized how much of a friend Emily has been and is. She deserves, in my honest opinion, to be my CERB Goddess of the Day not because she is a great companion (she is that BTW) nor because she is a great contributor to CERB (she is that too BTW) but because she has become a good friend, as good as the friends I have in civilian life. Emily is a beautiful person, both inside and out, a real gem. And she is my CERB Goddess of the Day today Thank You Emily

Sunday night's Wonderful World of Disney and athe Lawrence Welk hour...tv sucked before skyline cable vision made it to the outskirts of ottawa!

Two swords from The Lord of the Rings and Hobbit movies. They're for the man cave.

Far be it for me to enter into a politically or religious debate, but I gotta say one thing... Bah! Humbug! Keep Christmas in your own way and let others do the same. Good will to all and to all a good night.

I was going to pm, but I think it is more helpful to the board if dont.I don't mean Any disrespect by not doing so. I think this board is an excellent source for information on whatever it is that you seek. And if you are fortunate enough to have an account you can speak with the specific lady you wish to see to ask directly on what fees are to be expected. Some ladies have non- negotiable rates. And I think it would be unfair to say that a spa or specific lady is not " up-scale" if she chooses not to state the rates as an inclusive amount. It can be stated however one see fit. At any spa, a portion of the fee goes to the " house " whether it's paid up front, or as an inclusive rate. If a lady choose to charge anything beyond that that means she's offing something that is not typical and yes, in that case I agree that it can be quite confusing because some people don't come with the expectations if anything other than a massage and a hj. And please don't be discouraged to go any particular spa, or see a particular lady jake_cdn or anyone else for that matter. There are many great ladies everywhere. Keep it rosey and cheers.

Hi Jake.. This thread I beieve has miost of the info you are looking for... http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=148646 Just in case here is answer to each of your individual question... Are private appointments different from appointments in a business environment? A: Service will even be different within the same business as all MAs have their own style, personality.., likes and dislikes so you cant even break service from business like to indipendent,.. as MAs are individuals and everyone is different... Is it rude to ask about the fees beforehand? A: No it is not rude to ask for fees in advanced.. You will find that when you contact a business they may not mention the tipping options... again they can range between 60$-120$... Independents usually will provide you with all inclusive fees and packages... but Also ladies in Spas (i will include myself) can provide you with All inclusive packages and when you compare them It will come to being similar... pretty much the same... the only difference is when you go to an independent she does not have to pay a door fee but some portion will cover rent and other expenses that help run her business... Ladies at a Spa have a set door fee that varies between 40 and 80 depending on the length of the session.... I know that the fees are not to be discussed at the door but can they be determined before going in? A: say you decide to show up as a walkin at a Parlour..., the lady may invite you in the room and you can have a chat about the fees... even before you decide to stay or not... again depending on the level of service you are looking for you are looking between 60$ and 120$... on top of the door fee... I know that the fees are not to be discussed at the door but can they be determined before going in? A: I cant really answer that question.. all I can say is.. there is lots of ladies here on Cerb that may work out of a Spa BUT they book their appointments on their own same as an independent will ... My suggestion is check out what ladies interest you... and if she is part of a spa and dont have a way fo contacting her directly aside from the spa number... talk to the managers they most likely will be able to answer most questions... dont be afraid... Hope this helped....

Right now..... I'm wearing a black thong with embroidered satin vines.... Xo

This is a topic I truly still feel as a foreigner fresh of the boat. First of all, the biggest question I have - who are these elusive people on the Happy Holiday brigade? I've constantly seen the war on Christmas stories, especially on Fox, but who is the enemy? 2. I get there are some companies that are switching for some unknown reason, but who cares about what a store says anyway? As far as I've understood, retail have done an amazing job inserting themselves into the psyche of Christmas, so much so that it's now seen as blasphemy that they would say anything other then Merry Christmas. As someone who has celebrated one Christmas only, for me it was about being with friends, having a nice meal, and catching up. 3. I know a lot of people who don't celebrate Christmas. From new immigrants to those here for a few generations, and not one of them have ever shown their disdain of anything Christmas, and they are definitely not offended when someone wishes them Merry Christmas. 4. What really makes me uncomfortable is that every year, inevitably someone brings up this conversation with me around (like physically around). And it always ends up in a kinda/sorta accusation that people like me are ruining Christmas. I had a professor once who told the entire class that the only note of any kind (card, email, etc) with the words Merry Christmas came from the 9-10 year old Bangladeshi Muslim community newspaper delivery boy. I once got a gift basket at work from the HR manager and he wished me Happy Holidays...I responded with a Merry Christmas and he was surprised that such words would come out from my mouth. I have tons of examples of this sort, where people who do celebrate it don't say it to each other, but hear it from people who don't. I wish people a Merry Christmas every chance I get, but normally I do so a little closer to Christmas, not starting from the first week of December...which is another thing I've yet to figure out. So Merry Christmas folks

Black string thong .....going up my front bum too far...ya this kinda hurts However it looks hot so xo Amber

Hi Tipping Varies form lady to lady.. here is a generalization but is always best to contact the lady or spa of you interest to get more exact info... But at least is a start point... Normally when you Visit a Spa/ Massage Parlour there is a door Fee that can range between 40$ and 80$ depending on the length of the appt.., also can be higher if you are looking for something longer than 60 min.. and/or Duo Session.. Tipping can range Between 60$ and 120$...l again this is at the discretion on the lady and to be discuss directly with her If you were to be looking at an Indy.. most of them offer Package prices.., so is a one fee that includes all..., Also some of spa ladies like myself... also offer packages (all inclusive prices) so that there is no suprises to the gentlemen that decide to visit... Good Luck and Welcome to the MA world!

I booked an appointment last night and left very pleased. She did say her name was Rona and worked at Magic Spa previously. She is located south Pembina. Her English is ok but not great. I had a hell of a time understanding what the buzz code was for her apartment as well as her apartment number. This made me walk up to her door with a slightly negative attitude however was extremely pleased when the door opened. I would say she is in her mid-thirties, was greeted by her in what appeared to be somewhat of a see thru dress with a shirt on top. Very pretty woman and appeared to have a nice sized chest. She took me to a room which had a couch and massage table. When I asked if I should take everything off, she asked if this was my first time! She had this "confused" look on her face..... of course I said NO ! I then proceeded to take everything off while she was out of the room and laid on the table. No, I didn't cover anything and thought I would leave it up to her if she didn't like what she saw. Upon her return she started applying oil on my back and proceeded with a fantastic massage. At one point, she said something about being hot and proceeded to take her shirt off. I didn't have the nerve....yet....to lift my head to see what she revealed. Minutes later, she climbed on the table, sat on my butt and started with a deeper tissue massage on my back. Well.....now I was getting hot. My hands started roaming behind me and started feeling her legs or as far as I could reach anyways.....which was not the pot of gold! I then turned around and saw that under the shirt was actually a teddy of some sort. WOW..... what nice breasts!!! I proceeded to take a shoulder strap off to which I again...received this confused look from her, something like....what is going on ....however you somehow knew it was ok. I paused to see if she wanted me to stop....then kept on removing the one strap then the other. Voila......two beautifully enhanced breasts. I don't know cup sizes however they were just a nice hand full. I asked if I could give her a massage which once again...I got this confused/"really?" look. She then said yes and was quite pleased with getting one from a customer. She keeps her back to you while sitting on the side of the table which gives you a rear approach to her. I was caressing her chest while she was massaging Johnny. She did ask me first if it was ok (she is so polite :) ). Needless to say, it was a happy ending with no more and no less than described. Removing the bottoms was off limits....at least on this first visit. Damage was $.8 which is a hell of a lot better than South Point in my opinion for the following reasons....more discrete location, way way prettier woman, you don't hear other people in the same house (although this is an apartment) all for $.2 more. Treat her well, don't be rude and enjoy his fine woman if you are into a nice massage with a happy ending. Cheers