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A couple of things on this. First, we've lost a few members who contributed a lot and initiated a lot of discussion; they've left, or faded away, or just don't post much any more. Newer folks haven't really replaced them. Maybe it's the new legal climate, maybe it isn't. I don't know why, and I don't know what - if anything - we can do about it. There's also a bit of change in perspective. When I first started reading this board, everything was new and interesting. Now, some of the stuff that I found fascinating back then is a bit... "Oh, God. Not this thread again." I think the folks who have been around a bit longer and have seen pretty much the same thread a dozen times need to remember that there are always going to be people who haven't, and newer members aren't going to find that thread from six months ago which is now on page 14 of the forum index. The board may not now be the same as it was when I first joined... but neither am I the same as I was when I first joined. Nor is anyone else who's been around for a while. As for debates/discussions... yes, the balance here is difficult. Ideally people disagreeing will do so nicely, and people being disagreed with won't take it personally, but none of us are perfect. There's a difference between vehemently disagreeing with what someone wrote and attacking that person, but many of us have differing opinions on where the boundary between the two lies. It's even harder in a written forum where the subtleties of tone of voice are completely absent and comments posted in a light-hearted spirit are misinterpreted. The laws have had some effect... but I think this is limited. Yes, the ladies have to advertize differently, but they seem to be managing. Recos can't be as explicit as they once were... but I've never really liked the play-by-play accounts much, so I'm afraid I don't care about that :). And we now can't ask questions like, "I'm looking for someone who offers..." which is kinda annoying. I hope this will change.

This short 10 minute video is an absolute must see. Created by Peers Victoria and sex workers rights group it features cameos not only from well-known activists but from the Chief Constable of Victoria, Frank Elsner. In a media normally full of negative messages, this is simply brimming with, wisdom, compassion, and dignity. PatrickGC PS: You simply must watch the final segment, a marvelous little rap :-)

I've been reading this thread with interest. I left for a while, because I felt my life had moved in a different direction and I was finding the board to be taking too much of my time. I missed it for a while, then didn't miss it, then became curious again as to what was happening. I left before the change in laws, and came back after the change. I'm not sure I see a huge difference in the board because of the laws. Blocked out words, etc., are a pain. But the basic essence of what this board is, in terms of a community of like-minded group of people involved in this lifestyle, has not. I agree completely with Phaedrus, though, that as someone who has been here for some time (though not as long as others), it can become tired. New threads on old topics. Communities have cycles ...ebbs and flows. New people come in and old people leave. The discussion cycles around. My worry would be that the legislative changes might be dissuading new members from joining. But overall, I do think the health of the community is still strong. I've missed threads where people feel they've been poorly treated. So I certainly hope that hasn't become an undercurrent. I don't necessarily see it, but I also am not very active. I'd urge everyone to keep to the philosophy of this board, which has made it so unique.

Wow, what a tremendously uplifting response. I must apologize for not being online much. This issue notwithstanding, bureaucracy and and the energy put in to daily life have taken, momentarily, a little out of me. The reporters need to be acknowledged and congratulated Nick Purdon and Leonardo Palleja. They kept the focus on attitudes and stigma, asking the question: [paraphrased] "Are our attitudes causing harm?" Nailing the issue right on the head, and getting people to look deeper into their societal beliefs. The most amazing thing is that all the responses from people I don't know here in Vancouver have been positive! A day after the segment aired a man stopped me on the street, vigorously shook my hand, and said: "Thank you so much!". Similar things have happened since then. Now I know that my own stereotype [physical disability] affords me a bit of a shield-a side effect of political correctness-but from what I have seen the new legislation has very little support from everyday people. Nor has there been any political rumbling relating to this video from the health care system. By the way: that does not mean our healthcare system is in good shape. In Vancouver over the last month or so, there have been massive cuts, and I mean massive, to home care support systems. Many disabled and elderly getting slashed down to an hour or less a week. It would take several posts, long ones at that to fill you in on all the details. Suffice it to say: There must be a change in B.C. politics and Harper's gotta go! I will be trying to catch up with everyone over the next week! PatrickGC

I want to take a moment to say thank you to a very special friend of mine who is amazing not only as a person but as a supporter of what we all do here. This is the sex trade video from CBC and while there is a distinct focus more on the downside it at least has some positive comments. http://www.cbc.ca/player/News/ID/2669201792/ Patrick has always been a supporter of what we do and views it as necessary and beneficial thing: health work. The connection versus just focusing on the naughty aspect. It's all part of the equation. With C36 in place, he went on camera, showing his face to say how important he believes what we do is. That would take some serious thought and contemplation on a good day but today, he could be charged because he admitted it. I will send positive and supportive energy to him that he is not targeted but I expect if he is, they will have one heck of a fight on their hands. Patrick puts his money were his mouth is and I respect him so much for this and applaud him for always standing up for what's right even if it's not easy. So to him I say thank you. Thank you for being who you are, for being amazing and for being a friend :D

It is not uncommon to go out for a nice lunch or dinner with the ladies after a lovely rendezvous. I've found restaurants with booth seatings are more private and therefore more enjoyable. Baton Rouge in both Ottawa and Gatineau, Moxie's Grill and Bar, Madisons at Boulevard Maloney, Al's Steak House on Elgin Street are all nice.

When someone you never saw before and don't know contacts you to make an appointment, and proceeds to raise just about every red flag he can. I don't know why anyone would think it's a good idea to phone me up and give me information about myself that I never gave him. Would anyone think that makes him look smart? No. Makes him look like a problem. If a guy wants to feel informed, he should start by reading the relevant parts of the law, so he doesn't do or say anything to compromise us and spoil his chances of getting an appointment. Some of us don't take a much new business. Some of us don't have to. Honestly, some of us are just trying to do our jobs and stay out of trouble. If we can have fun too, that's the cherry on top. Nobody likes having to turn down business. Don't put us in that position!

I agree with the post above. There are not as many interesting topics being posted. and with the censorship, can't really say much. It's hard to give recommendations also, because you can't say much. I too have had posted some topics in fun or get some interesting opinions. But then there always some posters that interpret or hijack the thread and turn's it into a negative direction. Some of my thread start off good and then go a totally different tangent :(. These have been so many discussions that it is hard to find something new to discuss. Still I have met many people here and PM them. I used this more to be able to contact and look for recommended companions. So this site is still good for contacting the women of cerb and keeping in contact with other chat buddies. But I find a lot of the regulars have left the chat room also. But at the same time there are new members dropping in for a chat. Hope things will get back to normal. And this stupid law goes away.

I think I would use the term disheartened. This new law has not only taken away the right to consensual pleasure between adults but it has taken away our freedom to talk about sex and pleasure because even if it's not about an exchange, it's about sex and could be connected. I miss the interaction and openness. I miss the acceptance and support. Yes, we're still supportive but it's surrounded by feeling like we've been stripped of something and I think many will agree, many seem on edge and prone to pounce more negatively. I've noticed a huge shift and myself have shifted to my personal blogs to make commentary. I miss the interaction and different views that we used to enjoy. There is now risk involved in doing this that's not related to stigma or not wanting so and so to know. It can impact jobs and careers and even result in jail or fines. I understand why some choose to remain in the background and it's entirely frustrating that we're at this point and I can only pray that we will get some enlightened leaders into places of power and change and rectify the wrongs slammed into place by our government. Like NorthernOntGuy said, it feels we have lost our way and the only way back is together. It's not illegal to talk about sex in general terms or to flirt and enjoy. I suppose we have to find that line.

I have visited SP's before (usually in-calls), but this Friday night will be my first time going out on the town with an SP and we are looking for a specific type of place to visit. She and I would like to visit a restaurant/lounge downtown, preferably in the market, that has a relaxed and cozy ambience, is not too bright, and has places to sit for two where we can be physically close and enjoy each other's company in a discrete fashion. The cocktails and food should be good too ;) We have briefly discussed Social, 18, or The Black Thorn as possibilities. But I thought I would reach out to the community here for comments on these places and for other suggestions that might fit our criteria. Thank you for your assistance.

I'm not sure if any other ladies have this experience before. I had a brief meeting with a gentleman, I physically met the person. I recieve this text asking me a question related to our meeting conversation so I responded. Later, I asked who the person was. It was confirmed. I then requested the number he had used before when he contacted me. There's an app out there that gives you a number for a certain amount of time then expires. So this person contacted me on two different numbers within 24/hrs, despite meeting him. I wanted to let everyone know of this potentially bait and switch with phone numbers (if that is what you call it in reverse to female bait and switch). I find this to be risky for someone to change there number after talking to them. How would you know even if you met them? How are you suppose to be sure? I'm not taking those risks. Has anyone experienced this before? And on the male side of view this what do you think about changing numbers after talking to a MA or SP? Posted via Mobile Device

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Good morning, It was lovely to be back and to be able to enjoy the amazing weather and fantastic company. I look forward to seeing you in the fall. xoxo Emily

Planting four trees in my back yard, I have four emerald green ceadars and a buttonbush shrub. Apparently this is native to NB and produces eatable fruits. Also my lovely wifey Katherine is visiting me today! Yay life is good!

Way to go, Patrick! I would love to see this aired on both CBC's 'The National' and CTV National News, complete with an in-depth panel discussion to bring awareness to the Canadian public as a whole. Also, this should be required viewing for all police forces across the country.

Well, I'm sure Tim Hunt has learned a few things. The first is that these days, what you say in front of what you think is a limited audience can go around the world very fast, and the world might disagree with you about whether it's funny or not. The second is that if you piss off a whole load of smart women you're probably going to lose.

Don't worry about BMI. It was made up by insurance companies in the 50ies to make sure that employees in big corporations would not cost any money to their rich Board of Directors and other executives. With BMI, anybody becomes obese very quickly... Silly, and insane. Totally unhealthy!

I think he means those are times that she leaves by. But yes, she typically takes very short shifts, about 4 hours or so mostly.

Deluxe Bacon & Tomato sandwich On pumpernickel bread With double bacon, onion, Monterey Jack cheese slice with jalapenos and cheddar cheese (real cheddar) slices Washed down with water And a bowl of fresh cherries for desert RG

An oil change. And lunch out tomorrow RG

Taxi fare to the airport....

Thinking about buying a Kayak,something a friend of my enjoys, he says it can be very relaxing out on the water.

I'm fairly new still and I didn't understand why I wasn't allowed to use certain words, phrases, or sentences. I enjoy writing, if there wasn't this censorship I would be writing more detailed in my threads of advertisement. Since I can't it annoys me to no end because I'm not allowed to express myself. I remember back in public school (7 years or so ago) the talk about sex wasn't the talk. I lived in the country with farms surrounding. It feels like this not being able to talk about sex. I advertise on CL and my posts always get flagged and are removed no matter how little information I put. I'm always risking advertising even when I barely mention anything. There's risks everywhere because of this law. I feel so censored to post ads anywhere including Lyla. I think it's the censorship and the new law preventing others to express themselves. But I am new so I don't know what it was like before the laws changed. Posted via Mobile Device

Is there not a lady at Paradise/Angels who has been featured in Tattoo Magazines? Name escapes me at the moment... but easy enough for you to check out.

A sensual nap in a hammock maybe? OK, forget about the caribbean sea in the background ;-)

On a quiet road in the woods.

Screeching histrionics is such a turn off. I like science girls; mocking is so much more fun!

Anything with a Mossberg 500 and a Lab with a duck in his mouth is a winner in my book.

Swinging from a tire swing. Drinking water from a hose. Sorry not this one but this one... Moving your head out of the water backward fast enough.... Just sitting pretty on the dock.... On a jet ski....

I completely agree with Peachy. For me it has nothing to do with the new laws that I have been fairly silent recently. It's simply that sometimes getting picked apart time and time again just makes it discouraging to participate. The thread about the risks of STI's comes to mind for me, where I felt I had to validate and defend my desire to obtain better information. It's tiring to do that, and not worth the effort. And I've seen it done to many others, where if there opinion doesn't go with the masses, they are berated. I personally would love to talk about more issues and am tired of every thread becoming about the 'new laws'. So I'll start a new thread now and see if I can start a discussion that I am sure will bring out a variety of opinions... Or at least I hope it will

Good point. The thing is, it's still relatively early in the game.. too soon to take anything for granted, so better to err on the side of caution. I would hope that police chiefs / forces across Canada would exercise common sense when choosing which aspects of C-36 to enforce, and which to let fall by the wayside. I believe that so far, they've been rational in their enforcement. However, what will happen in the future is anyone's guess.

I agree, that this has been happening way before c36... But that hasn't helped the site and since this is an adult site, you can't really discuss sex with all the words being blocked out... Nature of the environment I guess. I do think the place has become stale, and the fun threads are very repetitive and sure I contribute to them once in awhile... But no new ones are being created and just seems the status quo. Like some other sites, it would be nice to discuss day to day news or things that are happening in the world, but none is discussed. I agree with peachy that this board appears rosy on the outside looking in, it can be very unfriendly at times, especially to new posters, who then get attacked or posters who've been around for having a different opinion\views and they get shot down... No wonder no one posts much on here. The attitude needs to change...we think we are the best of the forums, but we have to act what we preach. Still a great site, and for me being in Ottawa this is a way better website than those out there... So for me it works. Cheers.

Me too.. I still have the two infraction points as a reminder, lol. I've never been a huge contributor here, but the new laws are definitely stopping me from talking as much or about the same things as I use to. I'm a liberated woman with a very high... libido... a lot of my life revolves around sex. At the same time, Lyla is a valuable resource to me and I really don't want it to be shut down or made a target.. so I understand their need to censor the site. Not knowing if I can talk about something or knowing I can't has made it difficult, but I honestly think in time things will kinda go back to normal.. I mean, incalls weren't legal, but a lot of us were offering them, talking about them openly, etc.. It will take time for people to relax again. Harper's fear mongering seems to be working everywhere.. :(

I think a lot of people here have scurried into their cubby holes and are peeking out, evaluating the changed landscape. It's not a surprise that many have been left feeling dejected and disillusioned. It's only natural, after being stripped of our freedom of expression and choice through no fault of our own. I often wish that the general public at large were more educated about the workings of the industry. If they were, more of them would be up in arms. Let's be clear: the new laws have nothing to do with combating trafficking and exploitation - there are already laws on the books for that. The government is banking on societal ignorance and apathy that will allow them to feed the public their drivel and have it unquestionably accepted. On the surface, for the layman the new laws sound good, considering they accept the party line at face value. But, as we all know, the truth is much more sinister. It's an attempt to legislate morality, which I believe takes away our basic rights and freedoms. Sadly, most people are unaware that this is even occurring. To put things in perspective, imagine for a moment that the Conservatives passed a bill that made engaging in pre-marital sex amongst civilians illegal. There would be an uproar of momentous proportions, with riots across the country. Of course, the opposition would jump at the chance to publicly announce that they will squash such unconstitutional legislation, if only they are elected to form the next government... So, is there really a difference between this hypothetical scenerio, and the one we are currently faced with? Just one - premarital sex is free, and the other is for an exchange.

Yup. On the diary. "Baseline and Clyde" is a definite warning sign. Don't go. http://www.cowboysdiary.info/wordpress/?s=baseline+and+clyde All thanks to Cowboy Kenny.

FYI...I'm pretty sure that pic was on Cowboy diary last month.

I think that if everybody leaves the ship, then this is "the beginning of the end". Things are what we make them. This website, despite the new rules since last December, is still what we make of it. Human beings adapt to new situations. We can still talk about many things, and even the things that are supposed to be censored, using the art of language. Think about countries where freedom of expression is a real issue for human beings, and even a risk for them to be killed. Ladies & Gentlemen, YES, the F--K you can write about anything you want! Don't give up, or this government will win this for good! Resistance is the solution. Nobody will tell me how I should live and enjoy my sexuality, even when it is related to business. F--K Yeah!

Bill C-36 has had an impact without question but I think it's also a bit of a natural attrition. Demographics is having an impact as younger players really have no interest in this kind of social media. Sort of like golf, older folks still play but the youngins can't be bothered cause it takes too much time and for them it's boring. Certainly some quality players have moved on or gone to ground but there seems to be little benefit seen by lots of players on both sides. There is more of an edge and while I have generally have no issue with that, it does spin out of control very quickly and become repetitive and redundant. There does seem to be a lot of anger and frustration out there. Maybe it is just inevitable that things will change. Peace MG

Leather riding chaps and summer light weight gloves.

I'd like some info too please!

This probably should be in the Highlight Of The Day thread but it's a biggie. I was informed by my doc today that I no longer have cancer. The pathology report following my surgery showed that there was cancer in 20% of my prostate but the margins were clear. The blood test I did last week returned a PSA value of 0.0. And that all translates into Bingo, we have a winner! There will be future periodic PSA tests to ensure that all stays good but for now, I'm going to enjoy practicing saying "I do not have cancer." Happy Dances for everyone! On the house!

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A report from this afternoon at the Playmate: On site: Ashley, Martia, Tania, Candy, Juliane, Ruby and Lexi (plus 2 others but I can't remember their names). I had dances with two of them: Ruby and Lexi. Ruby: She's an amazingly attractive dark haired, short, tanned girl from the middle-east, with a very feminine body and a gorgeous face. Manmade boobs but very well done and they fell natural. She's also very intelligent, kind and polite and horny (if you're a gentleman with her). Her dances in the CR are close and sensual, but all within boundaries. With all the giggles, I really felt like I was fooling around with a girlfriend (without the sex). Lexi: After Ruby got my motor running, I was ready for a wilder experience. Something more like a biker girl attitude. That's when Lexi came in. A dark blonde with light skin and some tatoos, she's also quite attractive, especially her face (Man! those blue eyes... and her mischievous smile...). Her manmade boobs were a little harder than Ruby's but she has a nice behind. She's also very down to earth and a whole lot of fun in private. BTW, for those who know her, I also saw Jasmine on my way to the room at the Sweet 300.

Well, obviously since that time Bill C36 has become law, and this is all old news.