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I am bringing this topic to explain and stress the importance of taking the few minutes to READ our web sites before contacting us. In the coming days of our new reality, Bill C-36, it is now more important than ever to take a moment to read what our services are, the rates and any booking protocol that we have in place. By doing this, you can eliminate the need of communications of services. Which is a big deal to all of us these days. In our service descriptions, you will notice most of ladies have taken out our abbreviations and replacing it with terms like " HOUR of entertainment" " Brisk afternoon get-a-way" " happy massage" " flirty chats and companionship" " full services or minimum service" Each lady using terms that suite their services and personality. It is in the TIME and RATE that will be your clue as to what to expect in the TIME you are booking. NOT ONLY does this take out the communication you the hobbyist would have to be involved in therefore leaving little trace of evidence to be used against you on a later date. BUT it also saves a lot of miscommunication and frustration that us ladies endure. As for many ladies, we may offer anywhere from 2-6 different types of sessions. So as you can imagine to try to txt all that with out abbreviations is a long long task , then times that by 20 enquires! The whole day is spent on that, and now I have lost my precious time to book you in. If after reading the site, and you for some reason can not understand what we are offering, FIRST, look at the TIME that session is offering such as HOUR, HH, 90 min, an evening out, etc...then use some imagination, lol. But I know I know....you want the juicy stuff don't you? Well then I suggest to voice call directly. Rather then txting or PM about it. By a voice call, we can assess that you are indeed interested in booking not just playing games, as long as your number is unblocked. Some ladies have even decided no phone calls for enquires, in that case follow their protocols! At the end of the day, us ladies have made it this way to keep you safe. Keeping us safe and discrete as well. So rather then spending 5 hours on 20 questions, confusing and miscommunication frustrations.... READ OUR SITE FOR 5 MIN:) The you make an informed booking, and even if the abbreviations are not there you should be able to read between lines. If it is a new lady you have not yet met but has a good rep, look at her Reco's. If it is new to the scene lady, just book blindly and pay for time only, could save you a lot of grief later on! I hope to see more hobbyist reading our sites and less confusion on txt in the near future. I may have the same responds to all enquires soon... " please see my site for all your questions"

https://www.change.org/p/stephen-harper-do-not-endanger-the-lives-of-sex-workers

Any SP worth her professional panties won't be waving their black book details publicly anytime soon. The truth is, there is no profit in outing a client so professional companions will be continuing on. The fly by nights are what you need to be aware of. If a provider isn't a long term investor in the industry then don't chance it. New girls will have to go to agencies and be vetted with identification and a couple of calls under their belts before they will be welcomed as indies. The changes are not really that big for indoor workers and clients. The real catch is the advertising legislation now imposed. There will be a marked change in the amount of information a client will be able to ask before meeting a provider. In that case, don't ask about services and you are fine. Payment for companionship has always been a non issue, what two consenting adults do behind closed doors is their business and no one is interested in what they do. Bottom line, new girls will where the risk lies in terms of LE so don't ask about sex before meeting or for sex once you arrive. Let her lead the way... cat

Good on you ! I am sure you will find many ladies that are open to second chances. Sometimes when you are new you can do a boo boo and when a person says they are sorry its polite to accept that apology . So happy hobbying and as you said you are able to PM the Cerb members and they will help you and guide you as you need. I was a new person here once and make some terrible blunders . The lovely ladies that went before me were very helpful and it will be the same to you. All the best and welcome to out board! Katherine

My guess she'd like you to be quiet about it just as you'd like her to be quiet about it. Handle it by saying and doing nothing. And no, don't panic that's the worst thing to do. Just be calm and forget about it That's how I'd handle it RG

Waiving a client list? A vote swing? Talk about crash and burn for the SP (if she keeps a "black book")!

Thanks for this. My favourite expression of this sentiment incidentally comes from A Man for All Seasons: William Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law! Sir Thomas More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil? William Roper: Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that! Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake! The hearing is better than the reading:

First let me say my experiences with the ladies from this site have been memorable in a positive way. Prior to joining this site I would take my chances on back page. I had some good experiences and some bad experiences. I also learned a lot and some of my bad experiences where due to my inexperience in not asking the right questions. And reading my turn offs maybe someone might think I was some ugly troll with no manors to have the experiences I have had and no that is not the case. I always treat a lady like a lady, I show up freshly showered, clean all over and with fresh breath. I have been told I am a good looking guy. I always I show up with some honey and sometimes the occasional gift depending on circumstances. It might sound stupid and naive but I want my time to be as memorable to the lady I see, as it is to me. Here are my turn-offs My number one turn-off showing up and finding the SP has been drinking a lot. A jaded SP that you can tell from what she says and her actions she is just not enjoying her job. If your not at least pretending your turned on for sure I am turned off and am just wanting to get the heck out of there. No kissing. Now I am not talking DFK I mean just plain old small light kisses. And no worries if something is not on the menu I am fine with that but if your not going to kiss at all that should be known up front because that would be a deciding factor in me seeing someone or not. Smelling of smoke. Doing my research paying and going for BBBJ and getting CBJ. Booking and showing up on time. Txting for room number 5 minutes before the agreed time and hearing nothing back. Then txt again because I do not trust txt and sometimes get sorry am not there yet, have gotten sorry give me another 1/2 hour, once told give me an hour and then I just left. If you set a time and cannot keep the time that is understandable but the same curtsey should go both ways and either party should inform the other as soon as they know they will be delayed or cannot make it. Book an incall. Get the txt she is on her way only to find out much latter she turned around for whatever reason and was a no show. Bait and switch. Now I am smarter and just leave. Her phone going off during the session and checking it and replying to txt messages Paying for the hour and scooted out the door way before the hour is up. Finishing up and having the lady say hold on a minute and she opens the envelope and counts out the money. Had one lady booked a half hour and paid for half hour. Was done in 20 minutes and she said hey you wanted an hour. Had to show her the text message. I will always treat a lady like a lady and its sure nice to be treated with equal respect.

I do not think a serious long term SP like Zoe for example would be outing clients. Professionals have a "brand" that they create, market, and protect. They would lose everything if they were shown to be outing anyone. Professionals are easy to identify. Some come on here and you can see that they are thoughtful and intelligent people. Fear those who have nothing to lose.

If you're asking, "Can you fight a law's validity because it does some tangible harm to you which contravenes your Charter rights?" then... yes. That's exactly what the Bedford case did with the old laws, and it's exactly what'll happen to the new ones sooner or later if nothing else happens to them first.

We all are, I am taking this opportunity to upgrade the chatroom to the latest release. Because of the problems I have the chatroom company re-installing the entire system for us.

^ I agree with cat. If you have a relationship with a provider odds are you know what they want, they know what you want, chances of a good out come are very high. There is no need for haggling over the details. Just call them up and invite them over. And as I said before, the true professionals have a lot invested in their business. Websites, clothes, pro photography, a large and loyal customer base. They are not going to ruin it by doing something stupid. I fear someone whose only investment is a five dollar ad on bp and is doing this on a whim or worse.

No real reason for the age category I chose I am in my early 30's and thought it would be fun to spend time with a women older than I. I am open to late 30's as well. Perhaps I will search out that age range!

What is it that truly matters to you? Age, maturity level or something else altogether? I ask because there are some mature providers but not necessarily in your age range. Are there other factors than age that are important as well? I believe Willow is, I'm gently nudging. Most are more mid to late 30's I believe but definitely some quality providers.

I believe that Ebony lady mostly went by the name "Sally", but changed that when she move from the Mate to Fax, since "Sally" was already owned by one of the Fax ladies.

I don't get the hockey playoff thing... what could be better than watching the game with a sexy lady and using the intermissions wisely lol Just my opinion

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I have experienced this a couple of times but these ladies are very hard to find, the ones I had are now retired :( Even the ones the advertise as DT providers doesn't stack up when it comes down to delivering on the promise. I think it is the sight of having someone totally swallow our pride and doing it with ease that amaze us, not gagging and look all bothered. I will keep looking as it is definitely on my list of things I truly like. Good luck in your search!

Words of wisdom! It is also true for other businesses as well as if you are on salary. We just can not be sure what the future would bring.

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Was in Thurs. aft.....not much going on. I did see Jenny very briefly between her CR visits. Also met Paris that was the highlight!

It's a pretty safe bet that the phone wasn't doing the sending, so likely the password for the account was compromised, the email contacts harvested and the account then used for sending spam (as Google does not allow unauthenticated sending). Gmail is immune to this problem if you use Google Authenticator's 2-Step verification and all SPs that use Gmail (or Google Apps with their own domain name) should really make the very little effort to do this considering the confidentiality their clients expect of them. You then have to enter the one-time password generated by the Authenticator App (or one of 10 printed backup - in case you loose your phone - one time passwords) only once every 30 days on a computer you use every day or each time you access your e-mail on a computer you don't normally. Key stroke loggers are completely defeated when it comes to compromising your password. It's what I do and it is no inconvenience at all. Reusable passwords are so 16th century.

I am a bit leary about viruses on phones. I think to solve a problem like this I would probably do a hard reset on my phone and then restore the data from my backup. One of the reasons for my approach, is that things like this are synced from the originating email account, and I suspect that the virus is more likely to be a problem on your laptop or computer.

I would say your safe as she is probably afraid as you are about meeting. I met a lady off Cerb and after we got talking she says you are and I said maybe as it turned out we did know each other for a long time. Her looks had changed I didnt recognize her as her looks had changed. We seen each other several times and now she is no longer in the biz. We are now FB friends and have been to a couple parties as our families are friends. We share a giggle and we have never outed each other

It's not law - yet. It needs to pass through the Senate and obtain Royal Assent. Here's how MPs voted -- or more importantly, DIDN'T vote -- and how to get in touch with them: http://openparliament.ca/votes/41-2/249/

Hi darling, Our companionship involves discretion so therefore if she is really a real lady in no way will she ever say, reveal anything to anyone. As RG mentioned and Summer said she is most likely as afraid as U R to be outed and we, as companions again don't out clients. Barbara xxxooo

And this is why no one will be communicating "for the purpose of obtaining for consideration, the sexual services of a person". It will be strictly for time and companionship only...

http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=635803#post635803

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I really don't understand the bill, and from the little I do know about it , my feeling is that it will be challenged in court as well. albeit not until a number of people have been charged. I personally feel that our government blew it big time by adopting this bill , and it will hurt both the sp's and the clients, far more than protecting anyone. I think that independent reputable SP's will be the only way top go moving forwards, and that the massage parlours days are numbered.....as far as I'm am concerned, I have scaled back already , and hope to completely move away from partaking of any SP's services come Dec., and if I do, it will only be with trusted sp's like Zoe etc. Zoe you are , and always have been one of the classiest and best SP's in the city and we really should get together again some day soon!

The more I think about this, the more I'm thinking that it's thoroughly objectionable. This is what's crystallized it for me: It's not just Berlin saying this. I've seen it in quite a few places over the last few days - I may even have linked to one or two myself - and every time I see it, it makes me want to scream. Privacy IS a right. To be sure, there are those who disagree. Companies want to know everything about you so that they can sell you stuff more effectively. Some groups and organizations just don't give a damn - look at the periodic pictures of celebrities in various states of undress that periodically go flying around the Internet (and the more mainstream press, sometimes). But the worst of all are the governments and various other organizations who want to strip away your privacy to enhance their ability to control what you do and don't do. Oh, to be sure, they have their good excuses. It's to protect us against the terrorists under the bed. It's to find criminals. To find drug dealers, pedophiles, traffickers (think of the children!). It's to punish those hypocrites who want the rest of us to do as they vote, not as they do. It's to catch those who do bad things, say bad things, think bad things. No. Yes, I know, this is where libertarianism gets hard. If you want to stand up for rights, you have to stand up for those rights for everyone. For the terrorists, for the child-rapists, for the MPs who voted for C36 while seeing sex workers themselves. Everyone. Because as soon as a right is removed for one reviled group in society, it becomes that much easier to remove it from a slightly less reviled group, and the next, and then all of us. That's why laws that remove people's rights are *always* officially aimed at Public Enemy No. 1, whoever that may be (it seems that terrorists are the current favourite). Well, you'd be amazed who's a suspected terrorist, when someone really wants to see what you're up to or put you back in your place. Yes, YOU. I'd have thought sex workers and their clients should be among the last people to advocate the removal of privacy as a right, both because many of us have much to lose as a result, and because we're pretty high up on the list of people from whom that privilege will be stripped once that becomes a common thing. Be careful what you wish for.

Biggest issue here is changing passwords, but you have done that! :)

I don't want to "pile on", because you've already admirably acknowledged that your wording wasn't ideal. But a really useful piece of advice, I think, is to recognise that CERB is not a place for the "guys" to talk about the SPs: it's a place for hobbyists and SPs together to interact. Any question which forgets half the audience, or implicitly assumes they don't exist in the conversation, is going to be seen as wrong-footed. But welcome to CERB :) Mostly you will find it a pretty friendly place.

Making mistakes while trying to post :icon_confused:

Thanks for your thoughts. Good points on the wording I chose! I'm a quick learner so that mistake won't be made again!

Showing up early. If your appt is at 10, don't call at 930 and say I'm 5 minutes away. Nothing worse then rushing.

I do think you need to have a bit of a special relationship, at least that is what I found. Maybe tough on the first visit. But then again, really depends on the comfort level of the lady. If she is willing to do BBBJCIM, snowballing isn't much beyond that. And if you kiss after BBBJCIM, you might get a little cum anyway. Not sure why this was thought to be unsafe, beyond BBBJCIM. Seems pretty obvious.

Again quickly dropped into Barb's on a Saturday afternoon (10/4). Arrived around 2:00 and found a fair number of patrons already there. Left at 3:00 after seeing Sasha, Kitty and Brandi on stage. Not sure I've seen Brandi before and thought she was stunning on stage - a very pretty girl with a lovely shape, especially from the waist down; really nice legs and a gorgeous derriere. No sign of Jenny (or Paris).

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